chilichote
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So Cherno says Alex at Digital Foundry has no idea what he's talking about?
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KingT731
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No need to print XBox Series S on the box because it's all digital.Why is there no Series S? What's happening?
Bo_Hazem
Banned
You're right, but it makes it even more confusing now.
mancs
Member
Hmmmm , I'm thinking .. Riddgeeeeee racerrrrrrfor me, that honour goes to this game
Bojanglez
The Amiga Brotherhood
Now I want to see a new spin-off series where Cherno reviews every DF video and highlights their misunderstandings.
There was a sly dig at their like at the start of the video, going to lengths to explain that he doesn't need to appease the platform holders unlike some channels.
Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
... i don't get the connection between the promo and the UI reveal
If you order a 2 for 5 meal and eat it, you will see the UI in an acid trip like vision!
Edit: Honestly, I think people are reading too much into the Burger King Promo/Startup sound thing with todays date. The most likely idea behind that is that the startup sound is an audio cue/blue lighting to represent both the date the promotion starts(Startup Sound) and PS5 being represented by both the sound and the lighting.
Just my opinion, though, I'd be happy to be wrong and see the UI as soon as possible.
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
No he said he disagreed with about half of what was said in that video.
Alex fucked up making that video because it comes across as him making excuses. But i think that video was part of the reason why we got the delay. Clearly Phil was ready to ship the game inn that state but having digital foundry with 1 million subscribers tell you your game looks like shit and show you how to use Ray tracing to fix the awful last gen visuals of your game is not something Phil can ignore.
I said something similar after watching the footage before Alex made that video. Getting halo to run with ray traced GI would easily fix a lot of issues with the poor lighting. Anything else would be a major change that would take years and likely not be something Phil would have gone for. Ray traced reflections on armor and other environments would make them look far more realistic as well.
The Xbox series x should be able to run a fully ray traced current gen game at 1440p 60 fps. This way they can keep the current gen version the same and rework the next gen version without wasting years redoing the lighting. Rt GI should just plug right in.
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zubairali2
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ridge racer was pretty good but there was no cruise mode where you could just explore around the map and it had online. cops and robbers was tight!
ThaMonkeyClaw
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So something which is saved in the SSD is not deleted after you turn off the console unbelievable.
The journalists seriously see any use of technology as magic.
And this is why Sony didn't send PS5 consoles to these idiots...
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Deleted member 775630
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They are sending a PS5 to all of them in a couple of weeks...
saintjules
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Lethal01
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"Why did Sony invest in SSD lmfao."
I think to most people it would seem like you are completely and totally contradicting yourself right now.
how is it in any way the same when you are saying that the PS4 will have a load screen where as the PS5 will just have a flash in and flash out.
There quite literally is. You literally just stated that there is.
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Darius87
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you still believe that PS4 Spider-Man Morales won't have loading screens? with it's old 50mb/s HDD drive? even when you can clearly see tweet clearly shows it has loading screens.
explain how suddenly PS4 is capable to stream assets at same speeds as PS5?
there's no point to communicate with you when you see proof literally showing differences between PS4 and PS5 and you still denied it.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Read my post again. It's all there. There is a difference between a flash and an actual gameplay screen that takes you out of an indoor level seamlessly.
This is not that hard to understand.
zubairali2
Member
i also read on reddit that theres a embargo for optimized games for series x being lifted later today...
Lethal01
Member
There is a difference between a 10 second loading screen and a flash, apparently this is hard to understand.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Again. Two different games. You need to show me how this works on Spiderman miles. This could just be a new feature they have on both consoles. Ac unity had insanely detailed indoor levels that didn't require an ssd on current gen consoles.
Maybe they have added this seamless loading on ps5 but this goes against their own pr which mentions faster loading. Not seamless transitions.
oldergamer
Member
I know there was another stupid rumor from 4chan about MS having an X20 show planned.
I was certain it was another 4chan BS push as there has been so many of them. However it seems Xbox mexico has been noting that there is something planned for the same day and time.
Xbox mexico hyping it being a historic moment. So now I think something is actually going on.
I was certain it was another 4chan BS push as there has been so many of them. However it seems Xbox mexico has been noting that there is something planned for the same day and time.
Xbox mexico hyping it being a historic moment. So now I think something is actually going on.
saintjules
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mancs
Member
For racing trust , ridge Racer was edge of seat , just about winning at line sometimes , the style , and arcade glitz and production polish , was also top notch , but , I suppose I could also give special mention to mario kart. Free roam would go to need for speed title ? Or Forza.
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
You are not following the discussion here. We are all jerking off to the seamless transition here. There is no footage here of that flash loading. These are two entirely different things.
Next time pay attention to the argument before jumping in to give your two cents.
saintjules
Gold Member
Sounds plausible. WWE's arena in Florida is I think one of the few places with the availability for an open format. They moved from their performance center to the Thunderdome a while back.
Insane Metal
Member
YESSSSSSSSSSS
ThaMonkeyClaw
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Lethal01
Member
"We" were pointing out how great the seamless trasisition of going from inside a building to outside is due to the instant loading on the PS5 and how much worse the PS4 looks in comparison since it needs to have 15 second load screens.
Then you claimed that it will be the same.
smallpotatosan
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maybe there are two snakes. The big boss and solid snake
zubairali2
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zhuge could be trolling, i hope not 
Zathalus
Member
That's already been proven to be wrong, the youtube video was 4k but the source was 1440p. So the same as the XSX. Anyones, think logically for a bit, do you honestly think the PS5 GPU is roughly twice as fast the XSX? If that is the case, then that is hilarious. Thats even worse then those who thought the differences between the two consoles would be greater then the mere 18% difference in raw GPU performance.
thurnishaleygw
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Well, then my work here is done.I don't know why, but I scrolled down slowly at each gif
Yeah, GAF, you wished I'm done with GIFs. I've only just started.
KingT731
Member
I don't see it as confusing just more so common sense. I would hope whomever is purchasing a Xbox Series S least did 5 seconds of research.
Darius87
Member
or maybe just maybe... there's no loading screen because PS5 has SSD is 100x better then PS4 HDD. does that thought ever come to your head?
look there's old SM comparisson between PS4 Pro and PS5:
don't tell me it's different game.
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zubairali2
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youtube link :
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MastaKiiLA
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This is a strange hill to die on. PS4 Spidey had loading when going indoors<->outdoors, because it's loading new environment and enemy assets. There's just not enough speed on the HDD to accommodate that transition. Insomniac said the PS5 version of the original game will eliminate those load screens. Not remove them, but eliminate them completely. This is what we're seeing in the MM clip that people are fawning over. That would have been a loading screen in the original game, and is most-likely going to be a loading screen in MM due to the same reasons (loading in new assets). The only way the PS4 version of MM won't be loading assets via load screen, is if the interior stages are incredibly simple geometry and texture-wise. This then begs the question if they would even be pushing the PS4 hardware, much less the PS5 with the MM game.
I don't think there's any reason for them to change the way the engine works for MM. Load screens allows them to maximize the visuals of each environment in the first game. There's no step forward in the PS4 storage format that would account for the ability to maintain that same level of fidelity on interiors, while also having exterior assets loaded in. They would then have to reduce the fidelity of either the interior or exterior assets, or both. That's not a logical decision. Since load screens were acceptable in the first game, why wouldn't they be acceptable in MM on the PS4? The PS5 was going to eliminate loads on the first game anyway, so having it be the platform that eliminates loads in MM doesn't change that dynamic at all.
I think you're making some strange assumptions about what the PS4 version of MM will be like, despite the developers themselves emphasizing how they are using the PS5 SSD to remove traditional loading screens. We've seen the very same company already flex with R&C, which is loading even more dynamic stages on the fly. Miles flying through a duct to the outdoors is along the same lines as Ratchet flying through a portal to a new world. Since flying out of a duct wasn't a part of the original game, Insomniac has the luxury of positioning the exit to those ducts at any particular part of the building that allows them to efficiently stream in the rest of the city in a predictable manner. So it stands to reason that the exit mechanism for MM on the PS5 is a feature of that console version alone, while the PS4 version will continue to load in and out of interiors, just like the first game.
chilichote
Member
Cherno said, some of the things DF (Alex) said are don't make any sense technically.
So Alex has, at least partial, no clue, what he is talking about.
jasondefaoite
Member
I haven't. But if we are making a list of car games that look better than Dirt 5, it'll be a long list.
Point I was making was while MS are at fault for the lights being shined on the game now as they appear to have nothing else, MS are not responsible for how Dirt5 looks. That is all on Codemasters.
xacto
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First look: PlayStation 5’s next-generation user experience
PS5 UX features revealed: Control Center, Activities, Game Help, and more.
blog.playstation.com
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Deleted member 775630
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Most of them will be the exact same people
Hopefully the people that get them then will actually have a brain...
Games Dean
Member
It's about damn time!
That Cherno video..... 
I didn’t really buy the bias DF stuff—although it was fun to joke about—but Cherno’s reaction seems genuine and now I’m wondering what exactly is going on over there.
Xbox deserves better. Hopefully the Medium blows people away.
-signed a sad Sony Pony
I didn’t really buy the bias DF stuff—although it was fun to joke about—but Cherno’s reaction seems genuine and now I’m wondering what exactly is going on over there.
Xbox deserves better. Hopefully the Medium blows people away.
-signed a sad Sony Pony
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Insomniac Games literally said there are no loading times, but you can turn them on from the menu if you like those cutscenes. Don't waste your time, mate.
Games Dean
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sandkiller
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Damn - It was today indeed!! UX
thurnishaleygw
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Not gonna lie, I'm rather impressed by the UI. Everything showed is very convenient, useful and it looks great. Kudos to the team behind it, really nice work.
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