Geki-D
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What does that even mean, though?
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Achillias
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You need some help, those hallucinations of yours are really something else. Fantasizing about your lord Phill clearly has done something to you. You're full of crap.Was it your first time hearing the name Lord Phill?! I won't engage with you more because I feel you will deny Xbox existence all together
Good job on MS ... Seems like their fans started "Jumping out" lol
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bitbydeath
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Has MS ever uttered the words Anaconda or Lockhart?
ethomaz
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There is only one project right now called Scarlet.... we don't know how many consoles MS will release next year.
What MS shared today is common between all Anaconda and Lockhart rumors.
If only one console exists I don't know but what happened today doesn't make the rumor either true or false.
They continue being rumors without confirmation.
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Negotiator
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Don't forget this:
Industrial espionage: AMD files suit against former employees for alleged document theft - ExtremeTech
AMD has filed a suit against multiple former employees alleging theft of thousands of confidential documents. All four are now employees of Nvidia, which raises ugly questions about what secrets were stolen -- and where they ended up.
www.extremetech.com
AMD as a semi-custom business has signed NDA contracts with both Sony and MS.
Contrary to the popular belief, they have NO freedom to disclose the exact PS5 specs (CUs, clocks etc.) to MS and vice versa.
That's why both companies are playing a game of chess.
bitbydeath
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They won't announce a further next-gen console 5 months out from release.
ethomaz
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Negotiator
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I can already imagine Gears 5 & Halo Infinite MP running at 120 fps, but what about the player pools? Will 60 fps peasants complain about a "competitive advantage" or what?
Not to mention that the 40x loading times improvement (50 MB/s HDD vs 2 GB/s NVMe SSD) will provide instant loading times, but not if you have to wait for XB1 users to load map assets from 5400 RPM HDDs.
Aceofspades
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But What about all the giggling between Lisa and that MS chick....
Achillias
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120 FPS is great and all but that means buying a new TV is a must if you want to fully use the potential.
Negotiator
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IIRC, some LG OLED 4KTVs already support 120 Hz, but only at 1080p.
Achillias
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It's all about 4K now as minimum so yeah if we want to use 120fps we needs to upgrade our OLED TV's. Unless you'd have a C9.
Negotiator
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We're talking about cross-gen games (Halo Infinite, Gears 5) with an XB1 dev baseline. Halo 5 and Gears of War 4 already support 60 fps PvP on Jaguar at 1.75 GHz.
Having 5x CPU power and 4x GPU power makes the 120 fps dream (at 1080p max, no 4K/8K) come true for PvP players, don't you think? SP will stay at 60 fps, obviously.
demigod
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But What about all the giggling between Lisa and that MS chick....
LMFAO thanks for reminding us. Now there's a reason why the girl kept quiet, they didn't have anything.
demigod
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I fixed that for you.
CyberPanda
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Maybe ethomaz should have posted this instead of just one quote form Matt to put things into perspective:
www.resetera.com
www.resetera.com
The only difference will be the logo on the boxes. Yawn.
Andrew Reiner: "Rumors before the [MS E3] show say the PS5 is more powerful than Project Scarlett"
The way they worded things on the Xbox stage makes this sound true. I'm really looking forward to physical consoles continuing to thrive.
www.resetera.com
Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT5| - It's in RDNA OT
Matt confirmed the reason Phil didn't share specs was the same as Sony's. I honestly don't know what that means. They don't have completely locked specs? Neither want to confirm specs first? *shrug* Good to see you back around, Matt.
www.resetera.com
The only difference will be the logo on the boxes. Yawn.
ethomaz
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Microsoft Fails To Capitalize On Sony’s Absence With A Surprisingly Light Xbox Scarlett Reveal
Microsoft had E3 to themselves this year with Sony choosing not to unveil the PS5. But the Xbox Scarlett reveal wasn't what many were expecting, and the same goes for games like Halo Infinite.
www.forbes.com
That come from somebody at E3 so the rumors about PS5 having the edge in power like the tweet guy said looks to be real.
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ethomaz
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I shared quote from Matt?Maybe ethomaz should have posted this instead of just one quote form Matt to put things into perspective:
Andrew Reiner: "Rumors before the [MS E3] show say the PS5 is more powerful than Project Scarlett"
The way they worded things on the Xbox stage makes this sound true. I'm really looking forward to physical consoles continuing to thrive.
Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT5| - It's in RDNA OT
Matt confirmed the reason Phil didn't share specs was the same as Sony's. I honestly don't know what that means. They don't have completely locked specs? Neither want to confirm specs first? *shrug* Good to see you back around, Matt.
The only difference will be the logo on the boxes. Yawn.
What he said is the same I said... MS and Sony are playing Chess.
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That 4x over the X1X is such bullshit though. How did they arrive to that number? That being said 2GB/s would put it far below the expected speed of sony's SSD. Which according to Cerny has to be 4GB/s+ since we can't buy those yet
CyberPanda
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My bad, I confused the two sorry. But, yea they are playing a game of cat and mouse.I shared quote from Matt?
What he said is the same I said... MS and Sony are playing Chess.
TeamGhobad
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the CPU is 4x more powerful. insane that MS could fuck up the messaging again..
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Hey all! Fun E3, eh? And it still isn't over! Exciting times for this thread when AMD takes the stage!
So do me a solid, yes? Cut down on the personal attacks some.
Now where did I put my snacks?
So do me a solid, yes? Cut down on the personal attacks some.
Now where did I put my snacks?
CyberPanda
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SonGoku
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CyberPanda
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Microsoft Fails To Capitalize On Sony’s Absence With A Surprisingly Light Xbox Scarlett Reveal
Microsoft had E3 to themselves this year with Sony choosing not to unveil the PS5. But the Xbox Scarlett reveal wasn't what many were expecting, and the same goes for games like Halo Infinite.
That come from somebody at E3 so the rumors about PS5 having the edge in power like the tweet guy said looks to be real.
Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT5| - It's in RDNA OT
So now it comes down to discussions about RT secret sauce to out do each other? Never change.
www.resetera.com
SonGoku
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Which post are you linking? gofreak's?Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT5| - It's in RDNA OT
So now it comes down to discussions about RT secret sauce to out do each other? Never change.
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CyberPanda
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TeamGhobad
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TeamGhobad
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they said 4x, not sure why you are so adamant about 5x. the X has 2.3 Ghz.
SonGoku
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Because of the Zen2 benchmark but you are right i forgot X was 2.3GHz
bitbydeath
Member
Looks like I was right earlier.
Devs aren't talking about Xbox yet because the dev kits haven't been released.
twinfinite.net
Devs aren't talking about Xbox yet because the dev kits haven't been released.
Xbox Working on Getting Project Scarlett Dev Kits Out; Optimizing Halo Infinite to Be Showcase Title
Today during YouTube’s YouTuve Live E3 coverage, General Manager of Xbox Games Marketing Aaron Greenberg talked about the newly revealed Project Scarlett
twinfinite.net
SonGoku
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What makes you say that?
Insane Metal
Member
Wat.Looks like I was right earlier.
Devs aren't talking about Xbox yet because the dev kits haven't been released.
Xbox Working on Getting Project Scarlett Dev Kits Out; Optimizing Halo Infinite to Be Showcase Title
Today during YouTube’s YouTuve Live E3 coverage, General Manager of Xbox Games Marketing Aaron Greenberg talked about the newly revealed Project Scarlett
So Sony might actually get ahead and release their nextgen first. Since it's a fact that their devkits are out.
bitbydeath
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Sony was said to be involved with the development of Navi so maybe that's why they got it out first
vpance
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If you're referring to the 24GB part they showed 12 chips on the mobo. For the HBM guess I'm thinking that would be the best way to get a bigger APU budget with adequate bandwidth if PS5 is more powerful like devs are saying.
SonGoku
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They showed a mobo pic? :O
I don't think Sony will go with HBM2 too expensive
Insane Metal
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They have already said they're using NAVI... and NAVI uses GDDR6. Period.
bitbydeath
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ethomaz
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SonGoku
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Navi can use a HBM memory controller
That being said PS5 will go GDDR6
ethomaz
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Navi uses any... GDDR5, GDDR6, HBM, etc.
You can choose which memory control you will use.
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