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Captn
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We can go on all day if you like loll ...
And by the way, I don't agree on the #1 personally. I just clicked the first link on youtube lolll I'm sorry but Drive club is certainly not the best looking car game out there.
Shmunter
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Maybe. But I play Driveclub in VR in 60fps with all assists off. The physics are not only there
,they are well established. The feedback you receive from the weight shifting around the car body, the grip levels of each individual tyre, etc.
Death of Driveclub is the biggest shame of this Generation as far as I'm concerned.
Edit: seconded by no Project Gotham throughout the entire gen
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Knock off the petty back and forth fanboy shit.
Take it to another thread or get gone.
Take it to another thread or get gone.
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DrDamn
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On a pure visual level DriveClub will always lose out to PC games in terms of final image quality. So I agree with you. However you are doing DriveClub something of a disservice in dismissing it. The driving model, whilst not full simulation, is at the very least simcade. It's based on real world physics, uses manufacturer data and physically modelled aerodynamics. The cloud and weather systems are also modelled and simulated. Clouds are 3D and diffuse light from the sun accurately. The skies are generated each time and are also affected by wind - as are the waves and rippling of water on the lakes.
There is a lot more simulation to the game than you might think - https://blog.eu.playstation.com/2014/06/05/51-driveclub-details-might-just-blow-mind/
Bit OT here, sorry
NoLootBoxDev
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As one of the most insider, of insiders on this thread full of real insiders, and fake insiders, with my inside information, I can warranty that the information provided by my insiders are real insiders information, which has told me the PS5 will be revealed someday.
HeisenbergFX4
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It's irrelevant to be honest. Mod of war has already said Tommy has info but wasn't willing to divulge the source or whatever else was asked of him. Much likeHeisenbergFX4 who is allowed to post his guesses at his lesuire.
Seems to me like all these neo member xbots are butt hurt and are reporting the posts willy nilly.
Even if Tommy refuses to give all the information again, I would not be at all surprised if his information is spot on.
He may just say ban me if the reveal is close just so they can unban him and apologise after lol.
Sorry but I am not a neo member and my thoughts haven't changed on the subject.
But have seem to have gotten under a few people's skin because of my thoughts so I will just wait for reveals before posting anything else in regards to power or performance.
Lets just hope we get a full spec reveal before sometime closer to E3.
saintjules
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If Racing games look anything like 0:58 for next-gen, I'd be happy to dive back in. I think that's what's exciting for me. Genres of games I used to play in earlier generations coming more to life for next-gen. I haven't played a serious racing game since Ridge Racer R: Type 4. The soundtracks give much hype.
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Tommy Fisher
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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
I guess Timdoggydog is the only one to be verified of the @OsirisBlack @CameFromNearFuture @Tommy Fisher @XcloudTimdog bunch? Can't say I'm surprised, though. Timdoggydog is a verified fanboy, that much is true
Nickolaidas
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But I like it when you're ... guessing stuff.
Nickolaidas
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Your /s ruined the joke.
It's irrelevant to be honest. Mod of war has already said Tommy has info but wasn't willing to divulge the source or whatever else was asked of him. Much like
Seems to me like all these neo member xbots are butt hurt and are reporting the posts willy nilly.
Even if Tommy refuses to give all the information again, I would not be at all surprised if his information is spot on.
He may just say ban me if the reveal is close just so they can unban him and apologise after lol.
HeisenbergFX4
has a really, really solid source.But we are not in the source burning business, and that doesn't mean what the source has will not change +/- with clock tweaks, etc..
There also have been more than one solid source on the SSD differences/tech, which we will not divulge details due to how easy it would be to burn them.
Nivek OnlyOn
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The exciting part of fast SSD is the large vertical worlds devs can create. Imagine a Fifth Element type world.
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Nickolaidas
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TJC
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Don't let a vocal few stop you posting your guesses! Appreciate your input. I really don't want to see people's reactions if no Feb spec reveals.
ethomaz
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so the RX5700 non-XT with 36 active CUs / 18 WGPs and 4 Shader Arrays does not exist?
So they are using an unbalanced config... interesting.... if the workload is scheduled to the SA with more WGP it will run with better performance than the SA with less WGP.
I wanted to see some tests because that card probably runs only a bit better than a 32CUs card.
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DJ12
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I know he has no worries there just using it as an example of someone not giving all the info to get vetted. He trusts you guys as he's been here for a long time, if Tommy is legit, and that's a big if, he's a new member so wouldn't be willing to show as much as
But we are not in the source burning business, and that doesn't mean what the source has will not change +/- with clock tweaks, etc..
There also have been more than one solid source on the SSD differences/tech, which we will not divulge details due to how easy it would be to burn them.
HeisenbergFX4
in my opinion, that's why I asked in another thread if the process could be detailed but I guess you do this in your PM's?
Gamernyc78
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This back and forth with supposed insiders with the disclaimer "I could be wrong or things are liable to change" isn't helpful and anyone can do it. It's like casting a broad net and knowing some fish will get caught in it.
Latest insiders are just regurgitating what a few ppl on here have already stated months back.
Cant wait for some concrete infoooo
Latest insiders are just regurgitating what a few ppl on here have already stated months back.
Cant wait for some concrete infoooo
44alltheway
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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TBF dude the issue has only really been with Tommy (at least for me), not necessarily anyone else. He just has a "peculiar" posting history that sets off alarm bells for me.
As for yourself and others like OsirisBlack and Klee? I always take any insider claims with a grain of salt if there's no hard data with it, but you're okay in my book.
Yeah, that trailer was really impressive with the background shots. Probably best-looking backgrounds for a next-gen game I've seen yet, thanks to the lighting and reflections in particular.
If that's in-game (seems to be, given the scope of the game isn't some open-world or sprawling epic), we should be in for some really gorgeous games next-gen on both platforms.
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DJ12
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Not at all, just using you as an example of having info, but not getting vetted
You carry on guessing
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It's so convenient isn't it?! They can always blame it on change of plans/schedule because it'll not be disclosed by the company seeing how the game industry operates. It's a great loophole for insiders.
Case in point:
OsirisBlack
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Tommy Fisher
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ANIMAL1975
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... é uma constante da vidaEles não sabem que o sonho...
And don't forget prototype #2 Verona... What if it really exists and is only in the hands of 1st party studios? Who knows if it is the one that people have the specs!?
HeisenbergFX4
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OsirisBlack
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Tommy Fisher
@Henry Clark!... Help!Really hard to figure that one out. Cerny said back in April SSD implementation from Sony is faster then fastest available on the market at that time (~3.5GB/s). A week before your post, Windows Central posted Anaconda specs and this about SSD :Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
I guess Timdoggydog is the only one to be verified of the @OsirisBlack @CameFromNearFuture @Tommy Fisher @XcloudTimdog bunch? Can't say I'm surprised, though. Timdoggydog is a verified fanboy, that much is truewww.neogaf.com
So, its really complex math to figure this one out.
Btw, in your post from dec 18 you said VRS implementation is the same, but that part was specifically used as MS to point they are using their own "patented VRS".
Its a shame what has happened to this forum
DJ12
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How do you square away the fact the
OsirisBlack
says the info
Tommy Fisher
dropped that seems to be causing you concern is the information he's been getting also then?
OsirisBlack
basically verified the information as correct., so do you no longer value his information too?To be fair to Tommy, he's literally said the same thing since he started posting here just before xmas or whenever it was. You have probably been brought in by all these Neo Members saying he's copied a post on twitter from a few days ago about the SSD speed, but if you check he actually posted that ages ago. December 19th actually.
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The one thing that keeps me from fully buying into Klee was when he said people will probably be disappointment by the numbers (I can’t find where he said it now but I know I read it.) Then he says the 12tf number isn’t a surprise to him. Who in their right mind was going to be disappointed by...
Tripolygon
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Xbox One X is smaller than PS4 Pro iirc and still more powerful and quieter.
And absolutely not even comparable.
P.s. One was completely quiet, the other is a vacuum cleaner
MilkyJoe
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Yes, so if they can get that power in that little box, how much more can they get out of a big one. MS hardware is far superior to PS tat
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I know he has no worries there just using it as an example of someone not giving all the info to get vetted. He trusts you guys as he's been here for a long time, if Tommy is legit, and that's a big if, he's a new member so wouldn't be willing to show as much as
We will never detail the vetting process. Ever. That is all done privately between only 2 parties. Not even all the mods know each individual's vetting process for each person. Only directly between two people (the mod and the person). This is to protect the sources, and not burn anyone ever.
HeisenbergFX4
has a very solid source, but like I said, that does not mean it can't change with tweaks and revisions to kit. Even the source admits this. Very solid source.
Tommy Fisher
I asked to scale it back a bit. I personally am letting him be. I didn't do his vetting process so I do not know the details, I was just told by another that "his information cannot be fully verified but there may be something there" in so many words. He will either hang himself, or get paraded in the streets. Same goes for
OsirisBlack
.S SCFC_ just responded and supposedly wants to go through it. Please stand by...
Things are coming, and it is very exciting. There is no "doom and gloom" from either camp. Both are going to be GREAT. So ignore the clickbait "warfare" articles from select sites and their "contributors", if you know what I mean.
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Gamernyc78
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Xbox x basically copied and blueprinted their console off the inner workings of the ps4 pro they are very similar hmmmm tht wasnt a magical feat coming over a year later, higher price and ohhhhh using someone else's foundation
Sony overall most of these gens have been the better hardware producer, ps4 was more powerful than Xbox one and better, pro was made before x and oh ps3 was better then those massive massive rrod situations. Not to mention Sony also created the first true home console VR tht was very competent. I'll believe in Sony engineers creating the better hardware.
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joe_zazen
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depends on what kind of stock the public can hold. Some go public and the former owners retain all voting shares. Not all shares are equal. Just saying, shit is nuanced.
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So what I'm getting is that
HeisenbergFX4
is likely the most reliable "insider" (or has the best source) in this thread.
HeisenbergFX4
is likely the most reliable "insider" (or has the best source) in this thread.
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joe_zazen
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I still think he is sid shuman.
pawel86ck
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Dealer sources told him XSX SDD loads Sea Of Thieves level at around 3-5s, while 3.5GB/s SDD on PC loads the same level at around 15-16s.
3.5GB/s on PC is already faat, and yet XSX SDD loads games even faster. How is that? Only HW decompression can explain it and I believe it's secret source in both XSX and PS5.
How do you square away the fact the
To be fair to Tommy, he's literally said the same thing since he started posting here just before xmas or whenever it was. You have probably been brought in by all these Neo Members saying he's copied a post on twitter from a few days ago about the SSD speed, but if you check he actually posted that ages ago. December 19th actually.
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The one thing that keeps me from fully buying into Klee was when he said people will probably be disappointment by the numbers (I can’t find where he said it now but I know I read it.) Then he says the 12tf number isn’t a surprise to him. Who in their right mind was going to be disappointed by...
Actually what he said was "the information lines up with what gaming journalists and some insiders have said" that does not sound like he confirmed it he basically just said it's what others are saying not what he has heard or seen.
You on about dealer gaming guy from twitter? If you are he makes stuff up for clicks fyi
joe_zazen
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yeah, i think with the tech amd had available, and the node they were working on, 10 is the upper limit in a consumer console.
If MS has 12+ and were confident that sony could not reach or exceed that, they would have used numbers and not vague power multipliers like they did with 1x...something like "12 TF sEx, which translates into 3x the performance of the 1x. sEx the most powerful console created by humankind in the 4 billion year history of the planet. We are gods now."
longdi
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Wait, rdna is considered navi? Like old navi out today?
But rdna2 is just navi with RT and vrs...like what PS5 Xsx is going to have.
So the whole argument about 12tflops rdna2 > 12tflops navi is pointless?
Was it DF that pushed such narrative? And then Xsx stealthy hype ran with that.
But rdna2 is just navi with RT and vrs...like what PS5 Xsx is going to have.
So the whole argument about 12tflops rdna2 > 12tflops navi is pointless?
Was it DF that pushed such narrative? And then Xsx stealthy hype ran with that.
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