Stuart360
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Maybe they have plans to do a next gen version down the line. The devs did say they will be adding content to the game over the coming months.
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Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
Freeman
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I did, R&C gameplay would be intolerable if we had to wait for long loading between the jumps. Demon's Souls remakes to me looks a generation ahead of Dark Souls 3 as well in terms of visuals and DS3 can't even get close to 60fps on the PS4 Pro. Horizon looked much better and it wasn't just resolution that was responsible for that.
I'll take what I saw this time over what we got with PS4 like Knack, Killzone, Infamous and Driveclub.
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VFXVeteran
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They absolutely had to scale back their skin rendering. There is a scatter function when doing SSS that allows you to compute successive iterations for getting a much better light scattering approximation. It's very similar to Newton's bisection method in numerical analysis. Think of it like anisotropic filtering where you can get more accuracy by expanding your search on a per texel basis. Using a high iteration number during cutscenes gives excellent results to skin rendering. In gameplay, however, you have to reduce that iterative count. The guys at ND did this for their characters in TLoU2. Some games will still use a fairly large scatter term like Cyberpunk. You can see it in the gameplay vids. CoD and some other FPS games keep the skin rendering high.
Metroiddarks
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He still waiting Horizon 1 in PC looks better than its sequels because fuck the logic.
Is normal in realtime scenes things like Subsurface scattering is on and off in gameplay you also wrong.
We still need to see gameplay.
I don't know with EA if something smells good is not 9/10 not so good and if smells bad is even worst most of the times.
Things like Titanfall 2 and the last Jedi Fallen Order are so weird to see than are closer to be miracles .... well I think is just because Respawn did both far
the hand of EA.
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Ass of Can Whooping
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Give it up, nearly 2 weeks later and you're still on that hill. Both systems are going to be great.
Bo_Hazem
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That's big for you? Ok then be happy.
VFXVeteran
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Before I answer that question, let's see a game that has actual gameplay because neither of the ones you are excited about show gameplay.
BlueXImpulse
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Why do people think HZD2 doesn't look next gen?
Nikana
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You're the one claiming it's not a real game based on sales. So by your logic any game that sells under 1 million copies isn't real.
Ass of Can Whooping
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They do. They just don't want to believe the screenshots are in-game
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Bo_Hazem
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You forgot the goalpost in the previous post, I guess.
eastwood333
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Where did i say they wouldn't? Simply stating Halo Infinite is cross gen and doesn't reflect XSX power. Also stating a simple fact that XSX is more powerful than PS5. There is nothing to give up. And nice alt account, bro.
Games Dean
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BlueXImpulse
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It looked in-game underwater when Aloy brushed the weeds to the side. There was jitter in the animation
Freeman
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You could show a video you made from real life and people would still be unimpressed. It's just how it is. It was the same thing last gen until people started to play the games.
eastwood333
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Nobody is arguing it doesn't since we haven't seen gameplay yet. The arguement is that what was shown, is cinematic cutcenes and not gameplay.
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BlueXImpulse
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HZD2 has a certain style so maybe it's more difficult for people to see a difference.. but it is the most impressive character models yet as I see it
But doesn't Horizon 1's cutscene models look the same as the gameplay ones even if they are slightly lower poly?
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Metroiddarks
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The photo active different things including in many game the Subsurface scattering and use a model
with the highest detail, example spiderman. That is why when you compare game you did using image
in gameplay .... that also could mean the next Halo looks worse than the image release by Xbox.
VFXVeteran
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Because all the cinematic cutscene that we saw is on the same fidelity level as all the other cutscenes in current gen games. HZD2 has a beautiful aesthetic and art style about it, but that's a purely subjective observation. HZD1 also had the same art style just in a different location.
Ass of Can Whooping
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Photomode is not a graphics enhancer. Stop with this nonsense
BlueXImpulse
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But artstyle can cloud your judgment. And I don't agree. Show me current Horizon with fidelity on the same level as the underwater scenes in Forbidden West. There's nothing even close
VFXVeteran
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There are no underwater scenes in the original Horizon. How can you compare? That doesn't mean it can't be done on a PS4.
eastwood333
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You haven't seen the Hellblade 2 trailer, especially the facial detail and facial animations
BlueXImpulse
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I do not understand this argument. Flight Simulator is going to be on Xbox One. So is it not next gen? It will be lower resolution, with worse textures too. It won't be remotely the same game
I have. But it was at 24fps so I can't consider it really viable yet.
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Gamernyc78
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Glamour? Thts disgenuos. Sony also has some of the most polished, fun games I've ever played, it isn't just about glamour thy have the whole package. I don't listen to shit DF says I've been gaming for 30 plus years so I know why I prefer those games, thy are just more my taste and fun to me.
You can put a glamorous coat of paint on state of decay, recore, crackdown 3, etc and thy still mediocre.
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Sinthor
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Is the X950H a newer or higher end version of the X900H? These model numbers and all the differences..... Dont' know what I'm looking at!
VFXVeteran
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You are switching to FS now. I thought we was talking about Horizon's underwater rendering?
Metroiddarks
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In most of the games it is, you are a brother of eastwood but with a different preference of box of what.
I can argue vs fanboys of both sides and I am still sure I am right because in most of the cases
when I start an argue is because I can prove my point.
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Bo_Hazem
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Is the X950H a newer or higher end version of the X900H? These model numbers and all the differences..... Dont' know what I'm looking at!
It's a higher model, but without HDMI 2.1. So for gaming, only go for X900H from Sony.
BlueXImpulse
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I'm tackling your argument which is HZD2 does nothing that can't be done on PS4. With that argument Flight Simulator does nothing on PC/Series X that can't be on Xbox One and this is factual because the game is actually coming to xbox one. HZD2 is not coming to PS4.
kretos
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Bo_Hazem
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You don't need that with PS5, you don't need LOD's to begin with. This is only with PS4 and ancient architecture. Same character model will be used with either on PS5 and it's more size efficient as well.
eastwood333
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You're not understanding the context. The "glamour" reference is in response to Sony 1st party prioritizing graphics over performance. Hence why there are zero PS4 1st party titles that target 60fps, where as MS Halo 5/Gears 5 target 60fps.
VFXVeteran
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That's not true. FS2020 is doing several new tech that hasn't been done before.
BlueXImpulse
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is it coming to Xbox One?
Nikana
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VFXVeteran
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I don't know. It might but the game was designed to cull out the heavy features from the PC version. It was designed to agnostic platforms.
BlueXImpulse
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I will answer that. It is coming to Xbox One. Btw, I agree with you, Flight Simulator is going to look way different on PC than it will on Xbox One. Higher res texture, framerate and resolution. That is next gen. It will look photorealistic on PC but not on Xbox One.
HZD2 on PS5 would be a completely different game than on PS4 in the same way. How can we even argue with this when the CPU difference is so big?
Ass of Can Whooping
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Go do a camera close up of the suit, then turn photo mode on
The visual fidelity of the suit doesn't change
VFXVeteran
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Because the graphics engine hasn't shown any milestones. In fact, no game has except ray-tracing and the techniques in the UE5 demo. That's just a fact.
You might get higher resolution and different landscapes and better texture filtering than the old 4x. You will probably get higher res textures and maybe better FX rendering.. but it's not something we haven't seen before in other games. That's my point.
Gamernyc78
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When all else fails rely on flight simulator, a game dependent on your connection, shown on high end pc and will be all over the place in terms of graphics due to its dependence on streaming and bandwidth. You've heard it all on here smh.
GRIEVEZ
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Dude, stop hating. Your comments are silly. You have no idea how FS will run on any platform.
Bo_Hazem
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It's irrelevant anyway, PS5 works in a polygon budget per frame, so instead of having 5-7 versions of the same asset/model you only use one and the Geometry Engine on PS Studios at least draw what's needed accordingly.
eastwood333
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Yes, those are cutscenes. :/:3...
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