Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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Nothing, folks. They don't appear to be active here. They didn't see it on their system. My old boss who is still there after..gosh, 14 years? Didn't see it either.

Lots of spelling errors as I look closer at that list(which they have that a lot, even in marketing kits)It has been a few years since I was last there.

The format is right, but it would say Available SKU#1,2,3, etc.(it used to) for those placeholder games. COULD still be legit, as it has been many years since I was there, but regardless it doesnt appear to be stateside.
 
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kourooshkabir said:



idiot fanboy mode

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Bruh, the dude just said RDNA 2 for PS5 is a rumour. 🤦🏻‍♂️
 
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Md Ray said:
Bruh, the dude just said RDNA 2 for PS5 is a rumour. 🤦🏻‍♂️
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He's nothing more than a fanboy. Doubt everything that's been stated about PS5, but everything about Xbox is completely factual, even the speculation that he's made up. I was actually thinking of giving him a little bit of respect, but he's not deserving of any.
 
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BlueXImpulse said:
He's nothing more than a fanboy. Doubt everything that's been stated about PS5, but everything about Xbox is completely factual, even the speculation that he's made up. I was actually thinking of giving him a little bit of respect, but he's not deserving of any.
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I had to explain to him what PRT does, he did not know. He is fake.
 
Zoro7 said:
Why do we still quote these fools?
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I usually refrain from people like Tidux, especially when it comes to inside information. But the tweet itself is intended as a joke lol it was in reference to DuskGolem "leaking" alleged development issues RE8 was having with PS5 because he wanted to "even out" the playing field between Series X and PS5. Stupid I know.
 
SSfox said:
There are still people that think the earth is flat, sky is green and Pharaohs were European ancestors


Why bother relay what morons says tho?
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Because he's a co-owner/design lead of an indie studio and it carries weight when these people say something. And when a misinformation is spread by them it spreads like wildfire.
 
saintjules said:
Would not be surprised!


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What anti-consumer move!

Aside of the joke if 343 think is the best solution, do it they know better its game than us and Phil. If this happens
then the game probably will be for 2022, the problem with that is Xbox is probably without any big exclusive
also the next year at least the also break the promise of 2 years without XSX exclusives.

But please continue believing everything Phil says like crossgen games doesn't hold anything.
 
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Vae_Victis said:
Now onto our other hero, Jace Skell, who is much more interesting.





So yeah, this is definitely some troubled person with access to large libraries of CGI videos, some video editing and possibly 3D animation skills himself, way too much spare time on his hands, and some pathological need of being at the center of attention.
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shame, i was hyped from the 1st video he posted
 
Md Ray said:
Because he's a co-owner/design lead of an indie studio and it carries weight when these people say something. And when a misinformation is spread by them it spreads like wildfire.
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That has not made, and never will make a game....EVER.

We could all create a web site, and claim to be a developer, what would you call your studio.

I think I will be Team Geordie Games.

 
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3liteDragon said:
It's almost the end of August and we still don't have a die shot of the PS5 APU... I'm seriously gonna lose my mind in a few weeks lol.
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They've said "PS5 is coming" in the email. How soon? That's the question. We are in Sony timeline and soon could be a week, 2 weeks or a month.
 
I posted on the other thread, but I'll post it here too since it's on topic. A little spec comparison between both consoles based on what they seem to be:

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                PS5 |  XSX
CUs              36 |  52                +44%
GPU Clock   2.23Ghz |  1.83Ghz           -18%
ROPs             64 |  64                +0%
TMUs           144? |  208?              +45%?
Bandwidth   448GB/s | 560GB/s (optimal)  +25%
Str.Prcs.      2304 | 3328               +45%

A few things I'd like to say:

- We don't know how well performance scales with clocks on RDNA 2. But from what we see on modern GPUs there are some things which have a good uplift with higher clocks, others not so much.
- I think both consoles will be bandwidth starved, so probably we won't have that many games in 4K especially after 3 years or so. I could be wrong though.
- XSX GPU is obviously stronger, not as in 5% but actually a significant amount (I'd say 20%+ especially if it has 80 ROPs. At 64 maybe not that much). Then again, we still don't know what Sony has done with PS5, we do know there are custom HW parts but what are they?
- From what we've heard from devs and insiders (which could pretty much be bullshit anyway) PS5 is the more efficient system due to its insane I/O speed, considering this is true the gap could be less than theorical numbers seem to show.
 
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Moridianae said:
Nothing, folks. They don't appear to be active here. They didn't see it on their system. My old boss who is still there after..gosh, 14 years? Didn't see it either.

Lots of spelling errors as I look closer at that list(which they have that a lot, even in marketing kits)It has been a few years since I was last there.

The format is right, but it would say Available SKU#1,2,3, etc.(it used to) for those placeholder games. COULD still be legit, as it has been many years since I was there, but regardless it doesnt appear to be stateside.
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sister the dumpy brother recalled.

Bloody dream smasher.
 
Moridianae said:
Okay, folks. I have enough experience with GameStop(10 years I was with them) to chime in here.

A lot of times those are placeholder dates and sometimes they put speculative titles on there to drive reservations early. Most of them end up being legitimate.

Additionally, that is an accurate print out of a GameStop upcoming reservation list. If that list has gone up(even in Germany), that means the placeholder SKUs for the systems will be right behind on a "Hardware" tab.


PS5 preorders will be opening soon. I still have two contacts with my old GameStop family. I'll reach out and find out if they appeared in the US
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Please do. We need anything. With covid19 this is definitely going to be a NES Classic launch shortage situation.
 
Md Ray said:
Because he's a co-owner/design lead of an indie studio and it carries weight when these people say something. And when a misinformation is spread by them it spreads like wildfire.
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his other co owner is his wife. and he is the only employee there. i doubt he has access to devkits.

he used to be an insider here, and his sources were wrong about the ps5 specs.
 
Insane Metal said:
I posted on the other thread, but I'll post it here too since it's on topic. A little spec comparison between both consoles based on what they seem to be:

Code: 
                PS5 |  XSX
CUs              36 |  52                +44%
GPU Clock   2.23Ghz |  1.83Ghz           -18%
ROPs             64 |  64?/80?           +0%? / +25%?
TMUs           144? |  208?              +45%?
Bandwidth   448GB/s | 560GB/s (optimal)  +25%
Str.Prcs.      2304 | 3328               +45%

A few things I'd like to say:

- We don't know how well performance scales with clocks on RDNA 2. But from what we see on modern GPUs there are some things which have a good uplift with higher clocks, others not so much.
- I think both consoles will be bandwidth starved, so probably we won't have that many games in 4K especially after 3 years or so. I could be wrong though.
- XSX GPU is obviously stronger, not as in 5% but actually a significant amount (I'd say 20%+ especially if it has 80 ROPs. If 64 maybe not that much). Then again, we still don't know what Sony has done with PS5, we do know there are custom HW parts but what are they?
- From what we've heard from devs and insiders (which could pretty much be bullshit anyway) PS5 is the more efficient system due to its insane I/O speed, considering this is true the gap could be less than theorical numbers seem to show.
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The Xbox has 64 ROPS.
 
Insane Metal said:
I posted on the other thread, but I'll post it here too since it's on topic. A little spec comparison between both consoles based on what they seem to be:

Code: 
                PS5 |  XSX
CUs              36 |  52                +44%
GPU Clock   2.23Ghz |  1.83Ghz           -18%
ROPs             64 |  64?/80?           +0%? / +25%?
TMUs           144? |  208?              +45%?
Bandwidth   448GB/s | 560GB/s (optimal)  +25%
Str.Prcs.      2304 | 3328               +45%

A few things I'd like to say:

- We don't know how well performance scales with clocks on RDNA 2. But from what we see on modern GPUs there are some things which have a good uplift with higher clocks, others not so much.
- I think both consoles will be bandwidth starved, so probably we won't have that many games in 4K especially after 3 years or so. I could be wrong though.
- XSX GPU is obviously stronger, not as in 5% but actually a significant amount (I'd say 20%+ especially if it has 80 ROPs. If 64 maybe not that much). Then again, we still don't know what Sony has done with PS5, we do know there are custom HW parts but what are they?
- From what we've heard from devs and insiders (which could pretty much be bullshit anyway) PS5 is the more efficient system due to its insane I/O speed, considering this is true the gap could be less than theorical numbers seem to show.
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XSX is confirmed as 64 ROPS.
 
Moridianae said:
Nothing, folks. They don't appear to be active here. They didn't see it on their system. My old boss who is still there after..gosh, 14 years? Didn't see it either.

Lots of spelling errors as I look closer at that list(which they have that a lot, even in marketing kits)It has been a few years since I was last there.

The format is right, but it would say Available SKU#1,2,3, etc.(it used to) for those placeholder games. COULD still be legit, as it has been many years since I was there, but regardless it doesnt appear to be stateside.
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Insane Metal said:
Code: 
                PS5 |  XSX
CUs              36 |  52                +44%
GPU Clock   2.23Ghz |  1.83Ghz           -18%
ROPs             64 |  64?/80?           +0%? / +25%?
TMUs           144? |  208?              +45%?
Bandwidth   448GB/s | 560GB/s (optimal)  +25%
Str.Prcs.      2304 | 3328               +45%
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fixed.
Code: 
                PS5 |  XSX
CUs              36 |  52                +30.8%
GPU Clock   2.23Ghz |  1.83Ghz           -18%
ROPs             64 |  64                 0%
TMUs           144? |  208?              +30.8%
Bandwidth   448GB/s | 560GB/s (optimal)  +20%
Str.Prcs.      2304 | 3328               +30.8%
 
Insane Metal said:
Damn 2020 really is a weird year, Phil Spencer trying to do something meaningful.
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no hes not. he's doing what he always does. Spread fud and say shit that makes zero business sense just because hes hit rock bottom and will say anything.

What he's essentially asking is to give third party app developers like Epic to NOT pay Apple, Google, Valve, Sony or even Microsoft their 30% store cut, and sell to PSN, XBox, iphone, and android customers directly. This is crossplay bs taken to another level. their entire business model revolves around taking that cut. you simply cannot afford to make xbox and ps consoles, iphones, and android devices and not take that cut.

He's lying. He's jumping on the bandwagon. He's being disingenuous. What Tim and Epic are asking is ridiculous and simply cannot be done. Will Phil allow EA to sell directly to xbox owners and not take a single dollar from ea access sales? will phil allow uplay to be on the xbox and not take a single cent from any ass creed sale? will phil allow epic to sell microtransactions straight to the xbox customers? not taking a single cent from the microtransactions?

of course not. do NOT fall for this man's lies. he will say anything to appear pro consumer. he's a used car salesman.
 
That table is also missing that the calculating bandwidth on optimal numbers is bs. Bandwidth in the Xbox is not 500 +, it's it's <500 when accounting for the slow pool. I know it's fun to be creative to artificially bullshit numbers, but it's not correct.
 
SlimySnake said:
his other co owner is his wife. and he is the only employee there. i doubt he has access to devkits.

he used to be an insider here, and his sources were wrong about the ps5 specs.
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I just had the misfortune to read the start of his twitter thread on Hot Chips and stopped after reading this nonsense:

O'dium/Gavin Stevens said:
First of all, SOC spec. They appear to be using what they call N7 Enhanced, which is likely a simple custom, more power efficient process over N7P, with a transistor density of 42.5MTr/mm^2. Zen 2. This is likely due to N7+ being more expensive and serves as a middle ground. For comparison, Playstation 5 uses N7 Zen 2, which is more cost effective, but may come with being less efficient on the whole.
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Series X's APU is on a more efficient process node than PS5's!????!! This is what you call clueless misinformation from an Xbox fanboy.
 
Coulomb_Barrier said:
I just had the misfortune to read the start of his twitter thread on Hot Chips and stopped after reading this nonsense:



Series X's APU is on a more efficient process node than PS5's!????!! This is what you call clueless misinformation from an Xbox fanboy.
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post this in the main thread and tag a mod so they can lock that thread. That's complete nonsense.
 
SlimySnake said:
no hes not. he's doing what he always does. Spread fud and say shit that makes zero business sense just because hes hit rock bottom and will say anything.

What he's essentially asking is to give third party app developers like Epic to NOT pay Apple, Google, Valve, Sony or even Microsoft their 30% store cut, and sell to PSN, XBox, iphone, and android customers directly. This is crossplay bs taken to another level. their entire business model revolves around taking that cut. you simply cannot afford to make xbox and ps consoles, iphones, and android devices and not take that cut.

He's lying. He's jumping on the bandwagon. He's being disingenuous. What Tim and Epic are asking is ridiculous and simply cannot be done. Will Phil allow EA to sell directly to xbox owners and not take a single dollar from ea access sales? will phil allow uplay to be on the xbox and not take a single cent from any ass creed sale? will phil allow epic to sell microtransactions straight to the xbox customers? not taking a single cent from the microtransactions?

of course not. do NOT fall for this man's lies. he will say anything to appear pro consumer. he's a used car salesman.
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The slimy snake has had enough bullshit, he is now evolving into snake Plissken.

Go get em snake.
 
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