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I would love to know all possibilities of what RDNA2 supports so I can understand what Full RDNA2 actually is. I haven't seen a list from AMD.

I just think without a proper list of what defines "Full RDNA2" from AMD, any claim to it is speculative at best.
I'm sure Nvidia would love to know that too and that's exactly why we don't know it yet. RNDA2 PC cards are set for November, just like consoles, right? Or maybe it's more important that Nvidia next wave is soon and when it hits shelves, AMD can open up.

That feeling you get when your product is so bad people think you're outsourcing it. Lmfao
They did outsource: last year's trailer and now they hired an external dev team for help.

Agreed! Maybe also Daredevil, he is my favorite of Superheroes (I prefer more grounded stuff, not much sci-fi or mysticism, other genres do these better)
With new sound capabilities of consoles, Daredevil would be a nice idea.

the account was deleted, maybe he actually leaked something true and was reported?
He surely leaked a lot of body fluids while writing that stuff...
 
At this point I don't think Microsoft wanted to show a big difference between current generation & next generation in the 1st few years because they don't want to go through the traditional restart & the optimized for Xbox SX games was their plan until they can sell enough Xbox SX consoles to justify making games for it.


I think the Epic Unreal demo & the other PS5 demoes threw them off of their game & now they are gonna have to have something that actually look good enough to show off the power of the console .
 
Can anyone explain to me what the hell is going on here???

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Am I just a perv an it IS what I think it is... and even then I'm not sure what that is?!


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the account was deleted, maybe he actually leaked something true and was reported?
If he was very obviously bullshitting for months, do you think it's more likely he simply got slightly better at bullshitting, or he suddenly conjured real sources out of the ether (not even telling him info, but giving him videos to publish)?

Don't worry, he'll be back with another empty, years-old account he bought somewhere. He might have done this several times before, after all his post history only went back a few months. This time though he'll probably stick to vague allusions and hard to identify edited snippets of obscure CGI videos, because he saw those are the ones that work.

Don't approach things assuming true, especially on the internet, and especially if from an anonymous source. Always assume fake, then look for reasons why it might be true and assess how likely each of the two possibilities is.
 
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If he was very obviously bullshitting for months, do you think it's more likely he simply got slightly better at bullshitting, or he suddenly conjured real sources out of the ether (not even telling him info, but giving him videos to publish)?

Don't worry, he'll be back with another empty, years-old account he bought somewhere. He might have done this several times before, after all his post history only went back a few months. This time though he'll probably stick to vague allusions and hard to identify edited snippets of obscure CGI videos, because he saw those are the ones that work.

Don't approach things assuming true, especially on the internet, and especially if from an anonymous source. Always assume fake, then look for reasons why it might be true and assess how likely each of the two possibilities is.

you're right, i have to give it to the sonfabitch that 16 sec clip got me hyped more than the 2 WB games trailers

if you are reading this jace you sonfabitch this is for you

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I like how you quote certain pieces, but not the main ones, of what I said.

My original text:



What this meant is clearly at this time, we have no idea what is going on with Ps5, as it's RDNA feature set is yet to be confirmed. You same idiots have been taking about RDNA 3 for ages.



Come on guys, play the game here, use your heads. The number after isn't actually important. What it DOES, it's feature set, is what defines it. At this stage in time, we have absolutely nothing concrete on several prominent features, and as such, we can't compare to them.

I swear, you people love a little bit of controversy. PS5 could be RDNA 1, it could be RDNA 17.6. Who gives a shit What they call it. It can officially be called RDNA 2 without certain features, and this is what we need to know; what is missing, and what's been changed. Stop putting so much focus on the number, it doesn't actually matter.

Edit: as a side note, if Sony came out and said "yes, we are using RDNA 1.5", but the feature set of this was vastly superior to that of xboxes RDNA 2, would that be an issue? Or would you suddenly realise that that this is all pathetic and stop being complete and total tits? Just a thought.


True that number doesnt really matter, but what they have added/removed.

If being "fully the same as original PC chip" would be the best scenario, then Switch wouldnt be so slow ass machine with its stock tegra X1, compared to if nintendo would have added custom stuff in it to suit their case better

Using stock PC parts on console is kind of failure, vs. customizing them to suit the case more optimally.

But when people talk about PS5 like "well Sony havent revealed all features so it may be RDNA 1.xx BUT xbox is fully this and that" -> makes one sound like biased and misinformed fanboy.

Maybe microsoft used more stock rdna2 solution (like lazy nintendo with tegra) while Sony looked the offered feature set and said "yes this will do it but this part is waste of space and we can engineer these parts better" -> one is closer to "rdna2" and one have removed useless(to console) rdna2 parts, and customized others + added some.

Or both did custom stuff but MS just calls it as fully RDNA2 as they dont think that their customers would understand more technical details

Then in non-tech oriented casual-fanboys it looks like that when one have bigger number, it must be better. Just like 10.2 vs 12, and then nothing else matters and everything is just "damage control" in their eyes as technical talk is too big words for them to understand.

Maybe you just worded your twitter things so that they sound like "xbox is doing things better because we dont know what sony have done" and it annoys some people, while it is completely true that using "full" RDNA2 doesnt mean it is the best case for a console, could even be the worst case.
 
ODDWORLD CREATOR SUGGESTS PS5 WILL ALLOW PLAYERS TO HELP EACH OTHER OUT MORE THAN EVER
"…the social stuff that's been built into the PS5 — I'm still not sure about how much I can really talk about […] I want to be careful, but they're doing a lot more things that are like, enabling you to sort of open your experience a little wider to your […] human network of people that you're connected with."

"[There are] ways that it's enabling, sort of helping [with] problems that you might be having in the game, more intelligent monitoring of people having difficulty and — I wouldn't say AI level, but it's kind of smart things that are going on. Like, 'if you take advantage of this new feature, you'll be able to help your players where they normally get stuck in this way.' And so there are some really clever things going on there that involve this sort of extension into other networks, other people, other points of feedback and giving people information on how to play the game better, how other people might play or solve these problems."

"Before we'd say, 'Okay, I'm playing my console game…" And there's connectivity and there's friends, sharing of stats and stuff like this, but a lot of it, you're still going to the web to engage in the discussion. […] I think we're going to see in this generation a lot more of that interlaced, where you're not leaving the console as much to go get the other data. […] It'll be really interesting to see how much the audience takes to it and what they do with it, and what developers do with it."

 
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                PS5 |  XSX
CUs              36 |  52                +30.8%
GPU Clock   2.23Ghz |  1.83Ghz           -18%
ROPs             64 |  64                 0%
TMUs           144? |  208?              +30.8%
Bandwidth   448GB/s | 560GB/s (optimal)  +20%
Str.Prcs.      2304 | 3328               +30.8%

Does anyone know the number of ACEs in each?

X1 has 2, PS4 has 8

Hmm, can't find the numbers for One X and Pro, both had more than their original ones and again the Pro has more than 1X.

So am wondering how many of the se are in each next gen console as well!
 
I like how you quote certain pieces, but not the main ones, of what I said.

My original text:



What this meant is clearly at this time, we have no idea what is going on with Ps5, as it's RDNA feature set is yet to be confirmed. You same idiots have been taking about RDNA 3 for ages.



Come on guys, play the game here, use your heads. The number after isn't actually important. What it DOES, it's feature set, is what defines it. At this stage in time, we have absolutely nothing concrete on several prominent features, and as such, we can't compare to them.

I swear, you people love a little bit of controversy. PS5 could be RDNA 1, it could be RDNA 17.6. Who gives a shit What they call it. It can officially be called RDNA 2 without certain features, and this is what we need to know; what is missing, and what's been changed. Stop putting so much focus on the number, it doesn't actually matter.

Edit: as a side note, if Sony came out and said "yes, we are using RDNA 1.5", but the feature set of this was vastly superior to that of xboxes RDNA 2, would that be an issue? Or would you suddenly realise that that this is all pathetic and stop being complete and total tits? Just a thought.


GTFO

Sony and AMD said its RDNA2 or based on it. Why would it be worse then RDNA2 stock in terms of featureset?
All you are doing is creating FUD.

Please either remove him from this thread or ban him completly.
 
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GTFO

Sony and AMD said its RDNA2 or based on it. Why would it be worse then RDNA2 stock in terms of featureset?
All you are doing is creating FUD.

Please either remove him from.this thread or ban him completly.

Nevermind I just saw mods will rather let people post that are full of shit (this has been proven several times) and ban technical knowlegeable people who actually work in semiconductor bussines.

Guess GAF is just another place where science and facts are fakenews.
 
I swear, you people love a little bit of controversy. PS5 could be RDNA 1, it could be RDNA 17.6. Who gives a shit What they call it. It can officially be called RDNA 2 without certain features, and this is what we need to know; what is missing, and what's been changed. Stop putting so much focus on the number, it doesn't actually matter.
It's custom, based on RDNA2. This is known since March.

The only one focusing on the number here (1, 1.76, etc., who cares as long as it's less than 2?) is you.
Please don't drag the conversation further into that topic.
 
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I like how you quote certain pieces, but not the main ones, of what I said.

My original text:



What this meant is clearly at this time, we have no idea what is going on with Ps5, as it's RDNA feature set is yet to be confirmed. You same idiots have been taking about RDNA 3 for ages.



Come on guys, play the game here, use your heads. The number after isn't actually important. What it DOES, it's feature set, is what defines it. At this stage in time, we have absolutely nothing concrete on several prominent features, and as such, we can't compare to them.

I swear, you people love a little bit of controversy. PS5 could be RDNA 1, it could be RDNA 17.6. Who gives a shit What they call it. It can officially be called RDNA 2 without certain features, and this is what we need to know; what is missing, and what's been changed. Stop putting so much focus on the number, it doesn't actually matter.

Edit: as a side note, if Sony came out and said "yes, we are using RDNA 1.5", but the feature set of this was vastly superior to that of xboxes RDNA 2, would that be an issue? Or would you suddenly realise that that this is all pathetic and stop being complete and total tits? Just a thought.


I refuse to give you the benefit of the doubt, you have biases (there's nothing wrong with this as we all do) but when it comes down to dissecting technical information you need to keep emotional attachment and personal preference out of it, which most of us agree that you seem incapable of doing. You're skeptical of everything PS5 but anything Xbox can be taken at face value and then some with little to no evidence.
 
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                PS5 |  XSX
CUs              36 |  52                +30.8%
GPU Clock   2.23Ghz |  1.83Ghz           -18%
ROPs             64 |  64                 0%
TMUs           144? |  208?              +30.8%
Bandwidth   448GB/s | 560GB/s (optimal)  +20%
Str.Prcs.      2304 | 3328               +30.8%
Does the PS5 have more RAM available for games? XSX seems limited to 10GB whereas Sony probably can go higher?

If so, why do people ignore this seemingly important bit of information?
 
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Nevermind I just saw mods will rather let people post that are full of shit (this has been proven several times) and ban technical knowlegeable people who actually work in semiconductor bussines.

Guess GAF is just another place where science and facts are fakenews.
I agree with you. Mods protect some individuals for their own reasons, probably clicks. I will be out of here after the launch.
 
So if Sony is doing something this week I think they're going to announce it today, but I won't get my hopes up, I've been hurt enough already.
 
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At this point I don't think Microsoft wanted to show a big difference between current generation & next generation in the 1st few years because they don't want to go through the traditional restart & the optimized for Xbox SX games was their plan until they can sell enough Xbox SX consoles to justify making games for it.


I think the Epic Unreal demo & the other PS5 demoes threw them off of their game & now they are gonna have to have something that actually look good enough to show off the power of the console .

Sony is doing pretty much exactly what they have been doing since the PS1.
 
I have a question about this, MS have been talking about using server grade chips in XSX, wouldn't that even be the least bit detrimental to game performance if it's potentially not a completely gaming focused architecture, or am I just confusing that with compute focused?
Microsoft logic => 4 is better than 1. We give you 4 instances of a game on 1 console
 
That Matt Hargett don't pull no punches hey?

Must admit, it's somewhat refreshing.

It's refreshing to see that he interacts with basically everybody and watches pretty much everything but that's because it's personal. He worked on PS5 hardware, how would you feel if someone was spreading FUD about your hard work? That's how he takes it.
 
I swear, you people love a little bit of controversy. PS5 could be RDNA 1, it could be RDNA 17.6. Who gives a shit What they call it. It can officially be called RDNA 2 without certain features, and this is what we need to know; what is missing, and what's been changed. Stop putting so much focus on the number, it doesn't actually matter.

But it's not is it, you know it's not. How do you keep getting away with this? The thing is, yeah, people interested in PS5 don't give a shit. But what people do take issue with is false claims or misinformation on the matter.

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I thought tricking a Sony employee into talking to you about RDNA and PS5 then posting his private DM to you online was bad enough.
 
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