Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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DaGwaphics said:
Probably not much that can be done at this point, in terms of a direction change.

They seem to have made GP the center of their approach, now we just wait and see if they are willing to spend the $$$ to make that a compelling selling point.
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Phil blow it.. They completely loose the plot for this next gen launch... they are down and deflated only a miracle will save them now..

Sony will reap the benefits big time.. and I honestly will be quit shocked if there are no big changes at Xbox leadership coming the new year...
 
Killer Sakoman said:
How much more can they shrink after 3nm? 1 nm?
Silicon atome is 0.2 nm
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Well according to digitmes in the latest annual report TSMC said they are starting research on the next die shrink which could be 2nm or 1.5nm.
TSMC has kicked off its 2nm process R&D, and is progressing in research and exploratory studies for nodes beyond 2nm, the foundry has disclosed in its annual report to shareholders.
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TSMC launches 2nm process R&D

TSMC has kicked off its process R&D, and is progressing in research and exploratory studies for nodes beyond , the foundry has disclosed in its annual report to shareholders.
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The thing is even if euv lithography let us go below 3nm, you will start getting quantum tunneling in between the doped material.
 
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MasterCornholio said:
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And much like Xbox's first 2 year lineup of first party games I'm.....
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Fortuneelsewhere said:
Phil blow it.. They completely loose the plot for this next gen launch... they are down and deflated only a miracle will save them now..

Sony will reap the benefits big time.. and I honestly will be quit shocked if there are no big changes at Xbox leadership coming the new year...
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If they don't make any moves, I don't see the launch going well, that's for sure. If they can get some impressive day one GP additions, they might compete. Sony would have the games as well, but MS would be the system where you get the games essentially for free. That might move some units. They've got a nice lineup as it is, but are missing a heavy-hitter or two to make things pop.
 
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In Red Gaming Tech podcast Matt Hargett hinted that a Geometry Engine which is programmable and can do culling in the very early stage of the rendering pipeline can help to save memory (amount) and bandwidth. Interesting.
 
DaGwaphics said:
If they don't make any moves, I don't see the launch going well, that's for sure. If they can get some impressive day one GP additions, they might compete. Sony would have the games as well, but MS would be the system where you get the games essentially for free. That might move some units. They've got a nice lineup as it is, but are missing a heavy-hitter or two to make things pop.
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no way a 3rd party blockbuster will be on gamepass day 1
 
Hmm Sony is not on the "Gamescom Partners" list but they are still showing the Ratchet & Clank demo on the show, wonder if they have more surprises for that day. So far it seems like it will be a solid event.
 
DaGwaphics said:
If they don't make any moves, I don't see the launch going well, that's for sure. If they can get some impressive day one GP additions, they might compete. Sony would have the games as well, but MS would be the system where you get the games essentially for free. That might move some units. They've got a nice lineup as it is, but are missing a heavy-hitter or two to make things pop.
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I think Gamepass will not be enough.. they completely played themselves with this no generations pr and Gamepass as their main goal.. they forget they need to create enthusiasm and show new things to compel people to buy their console..

The halo fiasco is something unbelievable how happened.. how Phil green lighted that show? No first party games in the near future, the conversation about gamers inclusion, last gen not holding next gen... selling consoles is not their goal, Gamepass value (whatever that means in a next gen build up strategy)... etc.. so many bad takes from them..

And when we think that they had seven years to prepare and this is what they come with it becomes really sad...

I sincerely think is going to be a shit show for them the launch of the next gen.. even worst than last gen because last gen despite the terrible message they still had lot of goodwill because of Xbox 360.. coming this next gen is being really a mess and a disappointment for them.. I think anyone that is not a Xbox diehard fan can't possible be excited to buy a Xbox sex day one...

Let's see how it goes...
 
Snowdonhoffen said:
Hmm Sony is not on the "Gamescom Partners" list but they are still showing the Ratchet & Clank demo on the show, wonder if they have more surprises for that day. So far it seems like it will be a solid event.
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Glad Ratchet is the first so I can watch that and leave. The rest is meh to me.
 
god good, the Geoff Keighley thread is brutal.

I genuinely feel sorry for normal xbox fans, those fuckers have sold them down the river.

All that pr, the fanboys, those youtube fools and bullshit over the last few months and now the chickens are coming home to roost.

I really don't know if i should laugh or cry.

So fucking sad.
 
sircaw said:
god good, the Geoff Keighley thread is brutal.

I genuinely feel sorry for normal xbox fans, those fuckers have sold them down the river.

All that pr, the fanboys, those youtube fools and bullshit over the last few months and now the chickens are coming home to roost.

I really don't know if i should laugh or cry.

So fucking sad.
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The worst thing is, a lot of Xboxers think PlayStation fans like me are happy about any of this. Not true at all. I was dying to have a reason to pick up a Series X. I wanted to see great, new, fresh games that used the powerful new hardware, that weren't available anywhere else. All I care about is playing the best games available - on whatever platform.

And what do we get from Microsoft?

No exclusive games AT ALL, and basic cable GamePass. Smh.
 
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sircaw said:
god good, the Geoff Keighley thread is brutal.

I genuinely feel sorry for normal xbox fans, those fuckers have sold them down the river.

All that pr, the fanboys, those youtube fools and bullshit over the last few months and now the chickens are coming home to roost.

I really don't know if i should laugh or cry.

So fucking sad.
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Leave the crying to Xbox fans and drink their tears. Enough for your daily sodium needs. :messenger_savoring:
 
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FunkMiller said:
The worst thing is, a lot of Xboxers think PlayStation fans like me are happy about any of this. Not true at all. I was dying to have a reason to pick up a Series X. I wanted to see great, new, fresh games that used the powerful new hardware, that weren't available anywhere else.

And what do we get?

No exclusive games, and basic cable GamePass. Smh.
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Yer I felt the same way. I really was pulling for xbox a few months ago then the bullshit started from the usual suspects.

Sometimes it's so fucking hard to stay positive about xbox with all the bullshit they spin, Phil, eastwood, dealer etc, they really do try there best to make me want to hate their brand.

i just don't know anymore, i want to say something awful but the people it would be directed at simply don't care and my comments will end up hurting the normal peeps, fans.

Sigh
 
sircaw said:
Yer I felt the same way. I really was pulling for xbox a few months ago then the bullshit started from the usual suspects.

Sometimes it's so fucking hard to stay positive about xbox with all the bullshit they spin, Phil, eastwood, dealer etc, they really do try there best to make me want to hate their brand.

i just don't know anymore, i want to say something awful but the people it would be directed at simply don't care and my comments will end up hurting the normal peeps, fans.

Sigh
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If you're letting companies affect you that much, maybe its not just the "usual suspects" and maybe some of its you (yes you specifically but also a "you" in a general sense for all the PS fans who constantly harp about Xbox). I don't know why anybody would be so invested in "drinking tears" when any failure on either side is bad for gaming. Like competition is what breeds healthy console ecosystems. And there are definitely some annoying, downright awful people on the Xbox side no doubt. I see very similar characters on the PS side. They just don't post here.
 
MasterCornholio said:
When people said he looked like he was about to cry I didn't believe it until I saw it. He definitely was in alot of pain during the interview. I feel bad for him to be honest.
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do you have the full version of the video? I'm kind of curious to see the flow of the discussion, but Geoff did tear him a new ass hole, whether he realizes it or not
 
DrDamn said:
The big give away is the press the PS button on your controller picture. It's a PS symbol in a circle, like on the DS4 controller. The DualSense has a PS symbol shaped button.
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That's the most authentic of the screens actually. It was like that in the showcase thing.

For me, it's the atrocious grammar on the first photo, "DualSense wireless controller connected who is using the controller?" is just pathetic.
 
Bladed Thesis said:
If you're letting companies affect you that much, maybe its not just the "usual suspects" and maybe some of its you (yes you specifically but also a "you" in a general sense for all the PS fans who constantly harp about Xbox). I don't know why anybody would be so invested in "drinking tears" when any failure on either side is bad for gaming. Like competition is what breeds healthy console ecosystems. And there are definitely some annoying, downright awful people on the Xbox side no doubt. I see very similar characters on the PS side. They just don't post here.
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MS is competing with Google and Amazon, not Sony. Don't @ me, ask Phil :)
 
sircaw said:
god good, the Geoff Keighley thread is brutal.

I genuinely feel sorry for normal xbox fans, those fuckers have sold them down the river.

All that pr, the fanboys, those youtube fools and bullshit over the last few months and now the chickens are coming home to roost.

I really don't know if i should laugh or cry.

So fucking sad.
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it is indeed sad but i really like the "hey lets point at that delusional fanboy and laugh at him" concept.
 
Bladed Thesis said:
If you're letting companies affect you that much, maybe its not just the "usual suspects" and maybe some of its you (yes you specifically but also a "you" in a general sense for all the PS fans who constantly harp about Xbox). I don't know why anybody would be so invested in "drinking tears" when any failure on either side is bad for gaming. Like competition is what breeds healthy console ecosystems. And there are definitely some annoying, downright awful people on the Xbox side no doubt. I see very similar characters on the PS side. They just don't post here.
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Did you see the fud list that was spread about sony. do you see the constant bullshit that has been made up about sony on this forum over the last 4 months. It totally dwarfs what xbox has been through.

People get tired of being poked all the time, so it's very natural that they feel a little payback is justified.
Its natural for people wanting to to.
 
sircaw said:
Did you see the fud list that was spread about sony. do you see the constant bullshit that has been made up about sony on this forum over the last 4 months. It totally dwarfs what xbox has been through.

People get tired of being poked all the time, so it's very natural that they feel a little payback is justified.
Its natural for people wanting to to.
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Payback justified? In console wars?

Yeah...no.
 
sircaw said:
Did you see the fud list that was spread about sony. do you see the constant bullshit that has been made up about sony on this forum over the last 4 months. It totally dwarfs what xbox has been through.

People get tired of being poked all the time, so it's very natural that they feel a little payback is justified.
Its natural for people wanting to to.
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I agree. So think on this. Read through this thread and you're telling me Sony has been the one getting poked? The top console that sits on top the mountain is the victim?

And there is a ton of fud in here about Xbox too. You'd almost think the Xbox didn't have an SSD with some of the talk in this thread. You'd almost think the Xbox didn't have 3d Audio. Bo for gods sake was dropping constant fud about the Xbox audio and even when called out on it he didn't budge. Let's not act like it's one-sided at all. The bans tell a very different story.

Have you been paying attention to this thread?
 
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Nikana said:
Payback justified? In console wars?

Yeah...no.
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Gandhi " Eye for an eye makes the whole world blind"

Honestly people that make stuff up (general terms) will always have to confront the truth in the end. That usually never ends well for them.

If we let them spread false information they will only hurt themselves in the end. There's no need for us to provoke them.
 
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