Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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My guess is that Lockhart uses the soc's that won't pass the quality checks needed to be in series x. So all the cpu core must work but more than 50pct of gpu cu can be defective. But the console still needs the hdd, and motherboard and so it needs space. So my guess is the same form factor but without a disk slot.
Noooo no lol. They're not gonna waste the money to use a 56 CU GPU with only 20 active. It will have its own unique SOC.
 
I honestly think it's more about competition. If either one of them wasn't releasing this year then the one that was releasing would have revealed price by now. MS is so scared of a 2013 repeat and Sony doesn't want anything that could jeopordize their current position so they're both just playing the waiting game. But I HAVE to think these things are mostly built and will soon be shipping with pricing already ironed out so what either is waiting for now I have no idea.
I mean you aren't wrong. I "SPECULATE"
XSS : $299.99 (M.S. scared of a $100 dollar more digital PS5 at $399)
PS5DE: $399.99 (Sony scared of an XSX at either $399 or $449)
PS5: $499 (Sony hoping MS will do the same with XSX at $499)
XSX: $499 (MS want to price it higher but afraid of Sony undercutting them with $449 console)

It's craaaaaaazy!
 
I mean you aren't wrong. I "SPECULATE"
XSS : $299.99 (M.S. scared of a $100 dollar more digital PS5 at $399)
PS5DE: $399.99 (Sony scared of an XSX at either $399 or $449)
PS5: $499 (Sony hoping MS will do the same with XSX at $499)
XSX: $499 (MS want to price it higher but afraid of Sony undercutting them with $449 console)

It's craaaaaaazy!

I really don't think those consoles will cost $499. They will be more expensive than that.
 
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Sony want things to flow Nice in terms of schedules.

You got the cOD no reveal already this week, enough to generate much hype, specially with exclusive contents for Ps5. Then You got the teaser trailer of excluisve PS5 event on the following day.
 
I really don't think those consoles are $499. They will be more expensive than that.
I know man, I think the same but it seems like that's how they'd want to go for it. All warring and crazy aside - I'm glad we are all in this together because right now both sides are being asses. I don't even think at this point there is anything to argue about. I'm a physical therapy worker and I've had to keep up during Covid19. I'm very understanding but companies and customer service are using Covid as a crutch too. If nothing next week then atleast Im getting married and get to get all of this off my mind 🙃
 
Leak?

Could be vaguely true, and the leaker even says they don't know when Sony will say price. The fakest leaks always have too much exact info in them.

I could see Sony on friday announcing an event for next week. Or I could see them waiting til fucking November to say anything, who knows.
 
I mean you aren't wrong. I "SPECULATE"
XSS : $299.99 (M.S. scared of a $100 dollar more digital PS5 at $399)
PS5DE: $399.99 (Sony scared of an XSX at either $399 or $449)
PS5: $499 (Sony hoping MS will do the same with XSX at $499)
XSX: $499 (MS want to price it higher but afraid of Sony undercutting them with $449 console)

It's craaaaaaazy!
XSX - 600
PS5 - 600
PS5 DE - 500
XSS - 400
 
I know you are a facts guy and I can appreciate that. So I understand how you are tying negative comments towards you to facts. For example, if you started a derail yes or no, if you lied about something yes or no.

But I think you should understand that it's not about facts. It's about how you come across. And you are right, you already have a reputation here from past conversations. And whether you like it or not, whether you think it's fair or not. Your reputation isn't so good.

So you have two options, the way I see it.

Option one: Ignore the negativity, just let everything that's not worth it go past you, even if you disagree or think it's unfair. Then contribute to this thread in a positive way, think about how things comes across, maybe just keep PC talk out of it for example. Maybe keep the post frequency down as well.

Option two: Continue as you have done in the past. Respond to each claim and comment. Derail the thread and get blamed for it again (even if you didn't start it, you participated in it). Get flak, cycle continues. Your choice.


Unless one of the console manufacturers decided to create an I/O solution with such high throughput and low latency that it allows for on the fly loading of asse.... Wait a minute!
He's a PC fan - every time someone praises a console for 'X' feature, he thinks he has to remind them that 'PC did it first'. As if those people give a fuck whether a PC did it first, or did it better. We are comparing next gen of consoles with previous gen of consoles. What they do better, what they do worse, what they do the same. What VFX Veteran is doing is coming in a conversation about cars, and start talking about how faster airplanes are. Who gives a fuck - we're discussing cars. We KNOW that airplanes are faster and we DON'T CARE.

The fact that he's seemingly incapable of understanding this is mind-boggling.
 
Yeah, the way Cerny was talking about it, it was definitely an EXPANSION and not a REPLACEMENT. For costs, I'm assuming that the 825GB SSD is soldered to the board. But you might need an even FASTER spec'd drive to perform equally in an expansion slot, depending on the exact design and architecture, right? So yeah, I'd agree....we'll probably be buying PC module drives to slap into the expansion of the PS5 and I don't expect that ones fast enough will be available for around 12 months or maybe more.

Fine with me, I think the 825GB will do just fine for a year or two...maybe more even given my current usage on PS4. But would be nice to have the OPTION as quickly as possible. I'm betting that those drives will
Leak?


The will eventually get it right, but they know shit.
 
Leak?


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Maybe there was some confusion :messenger_beaming:

I don't think Sony will have two events on the same day.
 
I don't know why some compare this to Apple reveals. Apple doesn't announce their products 1.5 years beforehand and dripfeed information all the way to release as we're seeing here. They have a set date that everyone knows well beforehand then announce and show everything at once.

What MS and Sony are doing has more to do with their hubris and lack of respect for the customer. They treat you all like pathetic sheep that will consume their product no matter how much condescending teasing they subject you to.

Are you 12? Why are you behaving like Ms and Sony owe you a date? You either want to buy or you don't, and you can either be an adult and wait or be a baby and cry. That's all.
 
Sony is managing to piss me off and I've been very patient. If september passes, as I suspect will happen if there are no news before the end of next week, I'm going to disconnect from this nonsense.

It's been 6 months since the Road to PS5 GDC talk and 3 months since the big PS5 reveal june event. No more relevant information ever since. Launch is 2 months away. This silence is jarring. My anticipation for the PS5 is pretty much gone.

 
From what I can see it's RT reflections. On the car and on the other cars, but the reflections aren't indicative of the entire scene. You don't see the crowd being reflected for example.

The other things is just normal lighting and shading on the console. Shadows cast from objects outside the car on to the dash. Typical for all games now basically.

The environment is static so I could see someone thinking it's a cube map but the reflection of light sources and the movement of the reflections with respect to the car's position/direction makes me believe it is ray-traced reflections.

Appreciate that, good to know I don't need to go get my eyes checked just yet.

Would be cool if the TheGreatWhiteShark TheGreatWhiteShark could confirm where exactly he pulled the cube map info from, hopefully I'm not (yet) on the ignore list :messenger_winking:
 
EgauK2TWoAE5rft


Maybe there was some confusion :messenger_beaming:

I don't think Sony will have two events on the same day.
Are fake leaks now so low-effort that they come out already debunked?

I know a lot of people are desperate for news, but isn't it better to just admit to yourself that you don't know something, rather than latching onto anything you are presented despite all evidence suggesting it's completely made up and as likely of being true as you coming up with random numbers yourself?
 
Sony is managing to piss me off and I've been very patient. If september passes, as I suspect will happen if there are no news before the end of next week, I'm going to disconnect from this nonsense.

It's been 6 months since the Road to PS5 GDC talk and 3 months since the big PS5 reveal june event. No more relevant information ever since. Launch is 2 months away. This silence is jarring. My anticipation for the PS5 is pretty much gone.


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Sony is managing to piss me off and I've been very patient. If september passes, as I suspect will happen if there are no news before the end of next week, I'm going to disconnect from this nonsense.

It's been 6 months since the Road to PS5 GDC talk and 3 months since the big PS5 reveal june event. No more relevant information ever since. Launch is 2 months away. This silence is jarring. My anticipation for the PS5 is pretty much gone.


Your rant just proves otherwise, patience is the name of the game.
Food is better when you're hungry and so is water and you're really thirsty.
When it drops you're gonna be EVEN MORE excited about it.
Let us find something to relax and reflect on.
 
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I still think something is happening soon.

They didnt send me emails about PS5 until recently and then I got 3 in 10 days. One being a heads up on a pre order. Lots of us got these.
 
Sony is managing to piss me off and I've been very patient. If september passes, as I suspect will happen if there are no news before the end of next week, I'm going to disconnect from this nonsense.

It's been 6 months since the Road to PS5 GDC talk and 3 months since the big PS5 reveal june event. No more relevant information ever since. Launch is 2 months away. This silence is jarring. My anticipation for the PS5 is pretty much gone.



It's called mismanagement. When it goes from excitement to frustration then you fucked up. That's the social media reaction to every PlayStation news recently. Everyone is expecting PS5 news, even Bloomberg reported an event still scheduled for August yet here we are because Sony can't manage an event and instead talking about VR? Really?
 
Thank you for your input. Can you comment on memory contention problems on a PS5? Tempest Engine consumes bandwidth too.
It's been reported the bandwidth is more than sufficient on the PS5 , that will mean there's no memory contention problems

Nobody here have these answers you keep asking, we're waiting for it to be revealed too
 
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We're all talking about Sony, but what about Microsoft? How long are they going to hold on before Series S inevitably slips out of their information net and we have leaks of the console itself?

Since they are bringing noting next-gen to TGS, when are they going to spill the beans? Early October? Mid October? How do you even announce an entirely different console and put it on the market in less than two months?

Not sure about everyone else, but after their next gen showcase, Microsoft put me off getting their console for the next couple of years.

There are launch/window games from Sony people want, so they are focusing on Sony, and deservedly so. This is boring.
 
Your rant just proves otherwise, patience is the name of the game.
Food is better when you're hungry and so is water and you're really thirsty.
When it drops you're gonna be EVEN MORE excited about it.
Let us find something to relax and reflect on.

In your own analogy I was already starving while waiting in line in front of the fancy restaurant and now I'm so pissed they still haven't even showed me the menu that the prospect of going home and eating yesterday's leftovers on my fridge sounds like the best option.
 
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Are you 12? Why are you behaving like Ms and Sony owe you a date? You either want to buy or you don't, and you can either be an adult and wait or be a baby and cry. That's all.
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Which part of that post hurt your feelings the most? Go on, you can share, this is a safe place.

Is it the part where I refused to suckle the teet of your favorite multi-billion dollar corporation that loves you so much?

Which of us is 12 again?
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