Leyasu
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If what your implying is true, then the base consoles must freeze every two seconds no??
More than likely another bug in the monstrous list....
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More than likely another bug in the monstrous list....
jonnyp
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Those freezes shouldn't happen with any SSD really.
SSfox
Member
I dunno about freezes in current gen, but there is this:
This is true i agree, but in this case it seems like just it's running on BC, futures patches in XSX will probably remove all those freezes on this versions, what interesting tho is that PS5 already don't have any freeze already with just BC mode, just show how PS5 SSD is pretty good, and it will get even better with the 2021 upgrade patch.
Yeah the game will improve vastly with time very likely, i hope CDPR will add a mode with RT+60fps that would be neat (please CDPR!!!)
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
oh dont get me wrong. i dont think the xbox is in trouble or anything. i just found it bizarre that they couldnt outsell the x1 at launch.
someone in the other thread pointed out that they sold more worldwide. it seems they distributed their allocations more evenly this time around.
Leyasu
Banned
Piss poor performance or not. If it was the SSD in thePS5 that was the defining factor, then everything, PC included that don't have the same spec SSDs would ALL have the same freezes.
Leyasu
Banned
What were the production numbers compared to the xbone and sell through? Are there reports of of series Xs sitting on store shelves unsold?
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Loxus
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Riky
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Rubbish.
It's just a bug like many others in the game, I haven't had it at all and I've even ran the game from an external slow HDD and it doesn't happen then either, if it was anything to do with SSD speed then it would barely move on an external HDD.
Yoboman
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By being less popular and relevant
Loxus
Member
Throughout the video, I'm seeing lots of pedestrians.
Guess version 1.04 fix that issue.
But still looks like a ghost town in some areas.
Plus it's optimized in a way for the PS5 as some effect are much better on PS5.
Riky
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Loxus
Member
So. what does that says about XBSX?PS5 hits low forties.
Yes that's right, PS5 has higher average fps than XBSX.
Lunatic_Gamer
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Loxus
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PlayStation 5 Teardown - iFixit
iFixit also has an x-ray of the PS5, may they'll have an x-ray of die ready soon.
Gudji
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MasterCornholio
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Dave_at_Home
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Really? Is this what we've come to fellas? Comparing this broke-ass game between systems? We are so close to a PS5 die shot x-ray, boys.
Side note: Cyberpunk seems like a pretty generic action RPG. Have I played it? No. Have I watched many reviews and long-plays? Yup. What am I not getting here? Anyone else feel the same?
Side note: Cyberpunk seems like a pretty generic action RPG. Have I played it? No. Have I watched many reviews and long-plays? Yup. What am I not getting here? Anyone else feel the same?
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geordiemp
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PS5 hits low forties.
XSX stops, 0 FPS
You realise the console power war is now over, nobody cares anymore, enjoy your 0, 30, 60, 120 FPS or whatever time of day it is.
Right, back to playing games.
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kyliethicc
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"It delivers what you kind of would have hoped to have seen on the last gen machines."
- Digital Foundry on Xbox Series S
- Digital Foundry on Xbox Series S
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Tchu-Espresso
likes mayo on everthing and can't dance
Console wars are serious business for lots of folks.
Lunatic_Gamer
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PS5 4K Blu-Ray Player Noise Reduction is Secretly Enabled by Default - Here's How to Turn It Off
Ptarmiganx2
Member
It's that damn Jaguar CPU... One thing is for sure.... Sony and Microsoft got it all wrong with thier CPU choice.
How much more would you all have paid for a PS4/Xbox One if a beefier CPU was under the hood.
Sony First party studios did just fine with its limitations.
Ptarmiganx2
Member
Enjoyed it. Although not as much as the first one. Ghost was a better game in my opinion.
Little Chicken
Banned
Good grief, it's a bug.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
ps5 is using last gen crowd, level of detail and traffic settings. thats why its performing well.
it seems CDPR did some extra work for the next gen xbox consoles by enabling some higher quality graphical settings that the ps5 does not have. thats why its performing better.
Little Chicken
Banned
Which is to say he wishes the last-gen machines had a consistent, 30 fps at 1080p, like the current-gen Xbox Series S does, which last-gen machines aren't capable of.
kyliethicc
Member
Exactly. The brand new Xbox Series S is a great way to get a 7 year old last gen experience.
Little Chicken
Banned
Trying to base the Xbox Series S' capabilities around the performance of the unpotimised Cyberpunk 2077 is foolish. I fully expect to see a 60 fps patch for it next year, especially considering the Series S has a faster CPU than the inferior PlS5.
Dave_at_Home
Member
Not if the PS5 has a unified L3 cache.
Little Chicken
Banned
We would've known by now. It doesn't.
smallpotatosan
Member
it's okay, i know the reality is hard
Dave_at_Home
Member
Sony has kept so much close to their chest. We'll know for sure once someone gets that x-ray die shot. Rumors have been floating around pretty hard for this. When you also consider current cross-gen performance between PS5 and Series X, it really wouldn't surprise me if that was the case.
ethomaz
Banned
That is interesting... thanks for the post.PlayStation 5 Teardown - iFixit
iFixit also has an x-ray of the PS5, may they'll have an x-ray of die ready soon.
Little Chicken
Banned
Did I say anything false or misleading?
The consoles have been out for a month now, if there were anything worth discovering it would've leaked/been talked about, probably months before launch.
THEAP99
Banned
It will be interesting how Horizon Forbidden West fairs next year hopefully. But I am totally fine if they need to delay it in order to do a sequel full justice:
That's pretty good for a first outing at an open-world game. If they listen to feedback and fully improve the sequel with some new great gameplay add-ons, we will be looking at a game that potentially wins the game of the year next year. Next year will probably be a rematch, HFW vs BOTW2.
That's pretty good for a first outing at an open-world game. If they listen to feedback and fully improve the sequel with some new great gameplay add-ons, we will be looking at a game that potentially wins the game of the year next year. Next year will probably be a rematch, HFW vs BOTW2.
Dave_at_Home
Member
You're sure about that? Cause here we are and nobody outside of Sony and AMD has seen what the PS5 GPU actually looks like. This thread would have been closed a long time ago if that were the case. What I really find amusing is people's reaction to PS5 performance. They see the PS5 doing extremely well alongside Series X. Instead of asking what's exactly inside the PS5 that's keeping up with console that's "supposedly" more powerful, they instead look at the Series X and assume something is wrong. We still have rumors to confirm about PS5. Again, we still don't have the answers until we get that x-ray shot.
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Bitmap Frogs
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Ptarmiganx2
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Horizon was far better than BOTW. Nintendo won based on name and legacy alone. I almost didn't bother finishing BOTW. It's one of two games my wife started and didn't finish.It will be interesting how Horizon Forbidden West fairs next year hopefully. But I am totally fine if they need to delay it in order to do a sequel full justice:
That's pretty good for a first outing at an open-world game. If they listen to feedback and fully improve the sequel with some new great gameplay add-ons, we will be looking at a game that potentially wins the game of the year next year. Next year will probably be a rematch, HFW vs BOTW2.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
I liked boh, but prefer botw.
Great games tho and I can't wait for their respective sequels.
Neo_game
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Xbox is definitely more optimized version as well going by the huge difference in loading times.
Shmunter
Member
Boom!
Shmunter
Member
This is what happens when you build for higher spec. If the game targeted last gen it would be built around a minimum framerate target.
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
yeah i just saw that. Xsx loads in 4 seconds. Ps5 30 seconds. Clearly more work was put into the xsx and xss versions.
ToadMan
Member
Latest patch seemed to improve the amount of traffic and pedestrians a little at least.
Still looks like ass though.
I've played about half the main story and side quests.
Yep it's a fairly standard western RPG. The cyberpunk setting is what differentiates it but to me CDPR hasn't quite captured it.
The setting feels more like Detroit or Black Mirror rather than Neuromancer or Blade Runner.
That's not necessarily wrong - Black Mirror and Detroit are just as valid near future and cyberpunk as the older cyberpunk stalwarts. To me black mirror is modern cyberpunk.
But it's not quite what I wanted. I hoped it'd be a bit more bleak, a bit more tech out of control and the characters a bit more interesting.
The plot line of the main story is a decent cyberpunk theme though - with Keanu Reeves presence it it's difficult not to be reminded of Johnny Mnemonic because the story feels like a riff on that at points.
I do think CDPR went out of their way to be edgy and satirical like a GTA entry - but they fumbled that badly and just made juvenile sex references in lieu of any social commentary...
Also it's difficult to play this after Demons Souls. The graphics and lack of tight gameplay reflect badly on CP2077. DeS feels like next generation gameplay despite being a gen older.
LivingD3AD
Member
45% higher average frame rate and resolution
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Again, the xsx is using higher quality settings. More NPCs, more traffic, better AO etc. Hell, the loading times are only 4 seconds vs 30 seconds on the ps5. It's not a good comparison.45% higher average frame rate and resolution
SSfox
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Like i was saying earlier, the game is running on BC mode in PS5 and this is anoher proof of it. The true next gen version won't be out until the 2021 Update.
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