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Next-gen Racing Graphics Face-off | (Next-gen means current-gen)
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TheAdmiester
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Agreed. For some reason the gameplay looked better than the trailer too. That Porsche race on the desert track looked amazing.
Self_Destructive
Member
For sure... I thought the same thing as well.
SliChillax
Member
Forza 7 looked great but there's still something video gamey about the lighting, especially in cockpit view.
Self_Destructive
Member
Maybe the fact that it's actually dynamic and much harder to do than GT:Sports baked lighting.. which still looks gamey I might add.
Tripolygon
Banned
These do not look like direct feed screenshots.
Yea this is rubbish, if there is one thing Polyphony is known for, it is lighting.
Self_Destructive
Member
Yea, but that sadly changes nothing.
OfTheOverflow
Member
Those Forza screens look underwhelming, but that gif looks really lovely.
Considering how their past games never came even close to looking realistic I don't think that's the case...
They're from the youtube trailer.
HighResTomato
Member
Will wait for direct footage from people that can actually drive.
TheAdmiester
Member
They already have higher quality assets that the base Xbox Ones couldn't make use of in Forza 6 and Horizon 3. FM5 wasn't pushing them as hard so cars were using their highest LOD models for instance. They also already confirmed that liveries on cars will have 4K friendly textures.
Doesn't look like there's dynamic lighting though, and there's no hint of time change. I'd imagine they would have shown a day to night timelapse like the Forza Horizon trailers if it was in the game. Dan's quote during the presentation only mentioned the cloud transitions from stormy to sunny, similar to PGR4's dynamic weather.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYEq9Lm2LQs
Not to take anything away from the dynamic weather, as it's a nice addition.
Self_Destructive
Member
That's a fair point. I take my statement back.
Stillmatic
Member
GT Sports lighting isn't baked, it just doesn't change dynamically over the course of a race.
Rock solid
That Porsche desert gameplay looked sweet though
Gif dat Porshe desert gameplay
Dem graphics best looking racer
SliChillax
Member
Everyone is complaining about the camera shaking and all the bits vibrating but I think that's amazing. It's what games like these need, racing is rough and it should be visible. I also love how the GTR's spoiler is flexing due to the downforce.
Self_Destructive
Member
I really hope Forza 7 improves their replays, and by that I mean the options and camera work. It's sorely amateur compared to Gran Turismo's.
I have my doubts.. I'll be disappointed if it's the same things as Forza 6 and Horizon 3.
I have my doubts.. I'll be disappointed if it's the same things as Forza 6 and Horizon 3.
Vroadstar
Member
Do you even know what you are talking about?
Insane Metal
Member
As usual, Forza's lighting is very very different from GT's. As much as I like Forza, GTS still looks better.
But I'll probably enjoy actually playing Forza more than GT. 😊
But I'll probably enjoy actually playing Forza more than GT. 😊
SalientChief
Member
Very much agreed. F7 looks great but the replays really need to be improved. I have the GT Sport beta and the replay camera work is awesome and what makes it that much better is the way the car suspension moves and the driver reacts. Very realistic looking imo. I hope F7 steps their game up with that aspect, but my fear is that with a relatively short development time it just didn't have time to be addressed. Fingers crossed though.
AbandonedTrolley
Member
Might want to talk to DRIVECLUB about how dynamic lighting can still look realistic and un-gamey.
thelastword
Banned
Not even close, this is at 4k 60fps. There's no way it's taking the graphics crown. Movement of the cars looks off too....a bit floaty/slidey. Lots of shimmering in that desert opener and some iffy textures, in-game car interiors are also not really impressive.... looking at other current racers....
Gif dat Porshe desert gameplay
Dem graphics best looking racer
Tripolygon
Banned
Does it really?
Well yeah. Reality. Native 4k/60 comes at a price.
They really nailed the lighting on that desert map though.
eso76
Member
When you take framerate and IQ into account though.
And IQ does make a huge difference, it's the one thing holding back Driveclub and making it somewhat slightly less impressive when seen in person, running on your own TV.
Problem is the desert track in FM7, where they did seem to have finally nailed lighting, textures and palette...seems to belong to a different game compared to those snippets from, say, Sebring.
It's without question the most technically demanding racer out there at 4k60 but on most tracks Forza Motorsport could never be mistaken for real life footage / photographs although you occasionally get that one combination of track+weather where it does.
I think at this point even FH3 can look more natural than FM which is weird as you'd expect the exact opposite given their targets.
icecold1983
Member
http://www.gamersyde.com/leech_40149_1_en.html
this is the footage i saw that i feel easily outclasses gt sport beta
this is the footage i saw that i feel easily outclasses gt sport beta
boneyjangles
Member
I thought the Forza trailer was pretty uninspired. All the slow motion focus on drivers and them getting into cars, it all looked too familiar. I've seen this exact stylistic choice already, done better.
I was more interested seeing Dirt 4. Those guys seem to be making the game they want to make.
I was more interested seeing Dirt 4. Those guys seem to be making the game they want to make.
Why MS showed all that at 30fps during the conference I'll never know. Baffling, truly baffling.
Sebmugi
Member
The lighting in full sun is convincing less under the rain..
drugstore_cowboy
Member
What's the Xbox One version of F7 running at, 1080/60 again or something lower?
Liking the improvements over F6 but never expected to be blown away as long as T10 are delivering 4k/60, just like all the other FM games if you're not gonna take that unwavering frame rate into consideration there's little point comparing to anything else.
Liking the improvements over F6 but never expected to be blown away as long as T10 are delivering 4k/60, just like all the other FM games if you're not gonna take that unwavering frame rate into consideration there's little point comparing to anything else.
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
Too bad people who never play Forza will never understand how bad replays and A.I drivers ruin the fluidity of motion in the game...
Ever since FM3 replay data has been compressed to hell and back and makes them look like pure shit...
Ever since FM3 replay data has been compressed to hell and back and makes them look like pure shit...
Same. Also, Dirt 4 is bloody brilliant if you haven't tried it yet. Might not be so sexy looking, but man, what a game!
I haven't heard anything along these lines in interviews. Where did you come across it? Can you think of a reason to bother with a fully dynamic environmental lighting solution for static settings? It would be a pointless use of those resources when they have a 60 fps target. Categorically, pre-computed lighting for a static environment can give higher-quality results with less rendering effort (assuming the RAM/bandwidth is there to store the lightmaps).
Wax Free Vanilla
Member
Forza 7 and GT6 PS4 with the currently available videos both look underwhelming as fuck.
The last Vs thread between these two titans won't be topped.
The last Vs thread between these two titans won't be topped.
Any chance you missed Gamersyde's full-res footage of the desert race? The detail/lighting in that is up there.
FlutterPuffs
Member
Is it wrong that I think GT Sports paint shading look far better and realistic?
Yeah, I mean it looks great, but I feel like I need more from the Forza Motorsport series. Horizon has the "story" or at least the progression of the festival to keep you entertaining and moving along. But if Forza isn't going to double-down on a serious fleshed out career mode, then it's just racing the same cars on the same tracks for the 7th time in a row... just with it looking and feeling better
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