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Nexus 6 |OT| Moto takes the L
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Facts? gtfo of here with those
Still, it is ridiculous. How come they release a device as slow as Nexus 4? The phone is a monster with the best processor and best memory, no one that paid US$650,00 for it would expect a worse performance than Nexus 5. This is scandalous, I didn't even buy it and I'm sick.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
The Verge's video review said the Nexus 6 was the best Android phone I believe.
They didn't review the new Moto X and Moto Maxx?
Your Entertainer
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Dim screen is unacceptable to me. Really destroys any merit to the screen if it's ridiculously dim. Ruined the GS4 for me. Very happy with my bright as **** M7. At least Samsungs been making progress in shoring up AMOLED's weaknesses.
They did. They didn't like the maxx (gave it a 6) but they liked the moto x (8.8)
I hear you. The S5's screen was so much better than the S4...can't believe the N6 is back to S4 levels.
Interestingly enough, plenty of reviews are saying the screen is plenty bright (except in direct sunlight), and it has to do with a setting called "Adaptive Display".
*shrug*
Your Entertainer
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I'm reserving judgement till I see it in person, but Anandtech measured it at an extremely disappointing 258 nits, and Phone Arena at 270 nits.
I don't put too much stock in reviewers saying an AMOLED display is "bright" anymore after reading the reviews then subsequently owning the Galaxy S4. It got "bright" comments all the time, and not a single one I ever came across mentioned the screen being dim. Low and behold, compared to my friend's M7, it was literally half as bright when set to Auto (and got comparable screen on times at that lower brightness).
Edit: ^^^^^^^^^ It's not a Tegra, but a regular S805 found on many other phones. The big issue seems to be the dim, power hungry screen.
Bad camera software fucks that up as usual.
I find aperture in phone cameras to be overrated. You can't change it so brighter lenses will amplify the imperfections (tons of phones have a soft side due to poor quality control) and the poor low light performance usually has more to do with software exposure time, OIS, sensor tech and noise reduction.
Anandtech's Nexus 6 unit has some serious lens imperfections. I've downscaled this crop to one quarter the size and it's still clear as day.
I can't find the same in other reviews so even though it looks like compex field curvature it's probably some manufacturing error. I've yet to find a review with good shots to test sharpness though other than maybe GSMArena's shots which looked ok. None of the scenes have uniform patterns either so it's hard to tell if one area is soft because the of an optical error or the processing went nuts on that specific pattern. Branches work quite well, but small leaves get turned into modern art on most smartphones.
Bad camera software fucks that up as usual.
With half the exposure time it now gets as much light as the Nexus 5 would with a 2.8 lens. 1/12th is fast enough for handheld on phones without OIS unless you have shaky hands.Brandon Chester (Anandtech review) said:
I find aperture in phone cameras to be overrated. You can't change it so brighter lenses will amplify the imperfections (tons of phones have a soft side due to poor quality control) and the poor low light performance usually has more to do with software exposure time, OIS, sensor tech and noise reduction.
Anandtech's Nexus 6 unit has some serious lens imperfections. I've downscaled this crop to one quarter the size and it's still clear as day.
I can't find the same in other reviews so even though it looks like compex field curvature it's probably some manufacturing error. I've yet to find a review with good shots to test sharpness though other than maybe GSMArena's shots which looked ok. None of the scenes have uniform patterns either so it's hard to tell if one area is soft because the of an optical error or the processing went nuts on that specific pattern. Branches work quite well, but small leaves get turned into modern art on most smartphones.
Brandon Chester (Anandtech review) said:
I'll post results when mine arrives, but a heads up there might be a little bias, I live in the PNW where sunlight is a rarity in the winter
Phew! Reading rest of reviews when home from work. I hate the core Sammy apps but honestly the multi tasking is such a big part of it.
I don't think it's managed it even though I was hyped for the front speakers and bigger screen.
Shrike Alvaron
Member
Except, the web browsing time it shows there does match up to Anandtech's. I think people are missing that Anandtech's chart is specifically web browsing, with wifi and the screen on. Those are what kill the battery life on this phone apparently, but judging by the video playback rating on that benchmark I do wonder if these review units were affected by a wifi battery drain bug.
tfur
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The only problem I see with the N6 is that is has not shipped yet.
Not at all worried about the battery life. It has a hefty amp rating, and all issues are use case based and always get better with time and software enhancements. Also, the battery tests are so nebulous, because of distance, channel, bands, vendor frequency type, use types etc.
The AMOLED pixel density is awesome. Looking forward to the amoled based screen alerts. My wife has a moto x, and its a pretty awesome feature. I hope this phone has all of the moto x features of talking to you for who is calling and letting you speak to it etc? Moto X phones are pretty amazing with these added features.
Not at all worried about the battery life. It has a hefty amp rating, and all issues are use case based and always get better with time and software enhancements. Also, the battery tests are so nebulous, because of distance, channel, bands, vendor frequency type, use types etc.
The AMOLED pixel density is awesome. Looking forward to the amoled based screen alerts. My wife has a moto x, and its a pretty awesome feature. I hope this phone has all of the moto x features of talking to you for who is calling and letting you speak to it etc? Moto X phones are pretty amazing with these added features.
Actually I don't think they reviewed the maxx/turbo yet. Do you have a link?
Droid Maxx and Moto Maxx (Droid Turbo) are different phones, maybe they reviewed the Droid Maxx.
GSMArena battery tests literally use whatever 50% brightness is. We know the display is quite dim so that's most likely much dimmer than other phones hence the ok looking battery life.
Anandtech and Ars both standardize by setting brightness at 200nits and both had the Nexus 5 winning. Web browsing stress AMOLED a lot because web pages are usually white.
So they put the Nexus 6 on full brightness, then?
Yeah, my bad. Got them confused. This is the last article they have on the turbo http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/28/7082721/motorola-droid-turbo-verizon-price-announcement
Says a review is coming but it seems really late.
It is sorta ridiculous for them to make two phones named Maxx.
whatsinaname
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I just want the phone to ship. My Note 2 gets more unusable by the day.
Ouf, that stings.
That mobile headset thing is being made in special partnership with Samsung, so yeah, can't see them adding support.
The question is whether it will work on other devices like Sony's remote play
Not really. The Moto Maxx hasn't been announced for the US and the Droid Maxx was never released outside of the US. Doesn't cross over.
-Pyromaniac-
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awwwww shit lol
I've seen way worse
The PSVita max is 115nits and I steered my parents away from an otherwise decent laptop with max 105 and I don't dare think what the worst in a consumer product is.
200nits is fairly bright though and Anand has commented that the battery testing would at times hurt his eyes. I wish lowest brightness was tested more because I use my phone (way too much) in darkness.
-Pyromaniac-
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"that guy" is larry david damnit!
This isn't the one i'm thinking of. The guy has white hair.
yeah that guy!
The Faceless Master
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ahem
all the reputable places have it coming in it low. places with weird results like 'Nexus 4 has good battery' life have it high.
WhiskerFrisker
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hitsugi
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To say the N4 has good battery life is not a weird result.. it's straight up bullshit. Never thought I would see a time when I side with you on a Nexus device. I remember you in the N4 and N5 threads, both phones which I purchased...
...and well, now I have an iPhone 6.
The Faceless Master
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and that's a perfectly fine opinion to have. be together. not the same.
...... didn't you just reference a Note 4 benchmark from one of those "weird places"?
Bingo.
Sseklebeast
Member
Nexus 6 enters DxOMark Top 10 for camera performance:
http://www.gsmarena.com/nexus_6_enters_dxomark_top_10_for_camera_performance-news-10205.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/nexus_6_enters_dxomark_top_10_for_camera_performance-news-10205.php
Vyse The Legend
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This time last year, the tables were turned. GSM Arena had battery results for the Nexus 5 that were average/in line with the general consensus, but Anandtech had results that put it well above average, including besting the iPhone 5S and other high-end phones in some areas.
Point is, not everyone gets it right all the time, and synthetic benchmarks are imperfect.
In all seriousness though, we really shouldn't be bashing each other.
In terms of battery, we are simply not going to see anything groundbreaking until the next advance in battery technology. We are pretty much on a straight battery size > battery life line right now, barring bad software implementations.
With current battery technology, I simply want a device that will get me through a day of moderate to heavy use with a little juice to spare, that's all. I don't expect 2 days because that simply isn't feasible on a non-tablet device.
The Note 4 and the Nexus 6 are vastly different beasts. Samsung seems to do a hell of a job with using the latest and greatest hardware. There software, while adding a lot of features (especially 'phablet' specific features), to me leaves a lot to be desired. I've always found it clunky to use. However, I've never given it much of a chance, admittedly.
For my use case, I'm consolidating a Nexus 5 and an iPad 4 to a Nexus 6 (assuming I like the device). I simply wasn't using my tablet so a larger device seems to be the logical choice. I see it more as my 'personal computer'.
That said, logic would probably say that I should get a Note, given the superior hardware (camera, screen) and tablet-like functionality. My issue? I'm a software snob. As a software developer by trade, I absolutely cannot stand how the 3rd parties taint (in my opinion) the design of stock Android. Google spends a lot of time and money on developing Android, and that's how I want to use it.
So a Nexus 6 will be for me.