NFL 2011 Week 9 |OT| Release the Tebow!

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Gully State said:
Kolb has been effective only in games where his offensive line has kept him clean and given him all day to throw. But then all QB's in the NFL can do that....well except Tebow..
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Nobody's gonna mistake Kolb for Brady when he has time to throw.
 
DeaconKnowledge said:
Alex Smith.

Bradford will have FMT-like excuses made for him for years.
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Not arguing against Bradford being a bust, but Alex Smith is the wrong comparison. Bradford may throw short passes, but that keeps the turnovers down. Alex was a turnover machine early in his career.
 
I have a few very hardcore Texans fans that are very realistic and are also age-old fans of the game. They were never overly negative or overly positive, always would just say that it looks like another 7 to eight win season (and they were always right).

Now they are expecting an 11 win season. If they are expecting that kind of season, after all this time, it must mean that anything less is a disappointment and I feel like they embody the expectations of many (most?) of the fans. Kubiak can stay one more year though if we get into the playoffs. But Wade always has to be there.

Then again, I have a friend who is also a Texans fan but not the good kind. He constantly lives in the past in relation to the rockets, he wears funny hats, and loves Tom Brady and his "Flow". Terrible fan, am i rite?
 
exarkun said:
I have a few very hardcore Texans fans that are very realistic and are also age-old fans of the game. They were never overly negative or overly positive, always would just say that it looks like another 7 to eight win season (and they were always right).

Now they are expecting an 11 win season. If they are expecting that kind of season, after all this time, it must mean that anything less is a disappointment and I feel like they embody the expectations of many (most?) of the fans. Kubiak can stay one more year though if we get into the playoffs. But Wade always has to be there.

Then again, I have a friend who is also a Texans fan but not the good kind. He constantly lives in the past in relation to the rockets, he wears funny hats, and loves Tom Brady and his "Flow". Terrible fan, am i rite?
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wade phillips should get a medal
 
squicken said:
Bradford not practicing again. Must be some sprained ankle
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Rams have a legit shot against the Cardinals too, especially with the momentum from the Saints win. You'd think they'd want to try to get him back for this game to win two in a row.
 
Gully State said:
Kolb has been effective only in games where his offensive line has kept him clean and given him all day to throw. But then all QB's in the NFL can do that....well except Tebow..
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Kolb has not looked good at all this year, but the Cards have not done anything to help him. Their WRs outside of Fitz are terrible, no running game, no OL, and a horrible D that cant hold a lead. That team is fucked for a long time.
 
Gully State said:
Kolb has been effective only in games where his offensive line has kept him clean and given him all day to throw. But then all QB's in the NFL can do that....well except Tebow..
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That is what should be known as a college quarterback.

Kolb is a bum. I don't know how the fuck Andy Reid convinced everyone that he was special. When Whisenhunt gets fired it will be because of Kolb.

yankeehater said:
Kolb has not looked good at all this year, but the Cards have not done anything to help him. Their WRs outside of Fitz are terrible, no running game, no OL, and a horrible D that cant hold a lead. That team is fucked for a long time.
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You don't have to make excuses for Kolb anymore dude.

He is just a backup qb. There is no shame in it, but that is what he is.
 
Drakeon said:
Rams have a legit shot against the Cardinals too, especially with the momentum from the Saints win. You'd think they'd want to try to get him back for this game to win two in a row.
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I'm sure they'd like him to play, but there are conflicting reports. Two weeks ago they were saying it was a pain issue. That it was structurally sound. Then it kind of turned to if he's not mobile he'll get killed behind that offensive line.

He needs to get on the field
 
bionic77 said:
That is what should be known as a college quarterback.

Kolb is a bum. I don't know how the fuck Andy Reid convinced everyone that he was special. When Whisenhunt gets fired it will be because of Kolb.


You don't have to make excuses for Kolb anymore dude.

He is just a backup qb. There is no shame in it, but that is what he is.
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you know who else was a backup qb? Erron.
 
bionic77 said:
That is what should be known as a college quarterback.

Kolb is a bum. I don't know how the fuck Andy Reid convinced everyone that he was special. When Whisenhunt gets fired it will be because of Kolb.


You don't have to make excuses for Kolb anymore dude.

He is just a backup qb. There is no shame in it, but that is what he is.
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Hopefully Whiz comes back as our OC. that's when he was in his element.
 
squicken said:
I'm sure they'd like him to play, but there are conflicting reports. Two weeks ago they were saying it was a pain issue. That it was structurally sound. Then it kind of turned to if he's not mobile he'll get killed behind that offensive line.

He needs to get on the field
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Again, he needs to prove he can do well.
 
exarkun said:
you know who else was a backup qb? Erron.
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While I do agree with you that backup qb's are inherently untrustworthy back stabbers you can't make a 100% comparison between Kolb and Erron because when Erron was given a chance to become a starter he at least showed us that he could manage a very talented Green Bay Packers offense (that the legendary Brent left for him as a going away present despite being stabbed in the back) without getting in the way.

Right now we can all say with confidence that Rodgers is a great game manager with a weak constitution.

Kolb is just a bum.
 
DeaconKnowledge said:
Hopefully Whiz comes back as our OC. that's when he was in his element.
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No chance of that.

Ben and Ken hate each other. I can understand why, no OC with a brain or backbone is going to line seeing Ben run around in the backfield and play football the way he does. They want a robot who carries out their vision of offensive perfection.

Basically they want a yes man like Erron or Brady. "System" qbs.
 
bionic77 said:
No chance of that.

Ben and Ken hate each other. I can understand why, no OC with a brain or backbone is going to line seeing Ben run around in the backfield and play football the way he does. They want a robot who carries out their vision of offensive perfection.

Basically they want a yes man like Erron or Brady. "System" qbs.
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I don't know about "hate"; Ken was a guest at Ben's wedding after all. They do not see eye to eye though.

I think it's a real shame that Whiz didn't stay on because he could have broken Ben out of a lot of bad habits he has. Ben has Arians in his pocket and that has resulted in some seriously uneven offense.

That said though, I think Whiz is bitter with Tomlin for getting the job so maybe the whole thing is moot.
 
bionic77 said:
No chance of that.

Ben and Ken hate each other. I can understand why, no OC with a brain or backbone is going to line seeing Ben run around in the backfield and play football the way he does. They want a robot who carries out their vision of offensive perfection.

Basically they want a yes man like Erron or Brady. "System" qbs.
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You could have gotten away with this if you hadn't brought up Rodgers.
 
exarkun said:
The Rapist is truly the last of an older generation. When he leaves the league...*shakes head*
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In the future there will be a quarterback who is as big and strong as Ben, with Vick's speed, and Peyton's mastery of the qb position.

He will be drafted by the Raiders and never realize his potential. Rors will try and explain to all of us why this is the most talented qb of all time. We will all laugh and post animated Al Davis GIFs.
 
Isn't Cam Newton the next Ben? Just smarter, bigger, stronger, faster, and only a property theft criminal?

Both guys are tanks who can extend plays. Cam just needs Dick LaBeau to come over to CAR.
 
lmao apparently a jacksonville TV station sent a letter to the Texans about how dirty they are.
 
squicken said:
Isn't Cam Newton the next Ben? Just smarter, bigger, stronger, faster, and only a property theft criminal?

Both guys are tanks who can extend plays. Cam just needs Dick LaBeau to come over to CAR.
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He is definitely faster. Not sure about the bigger or stronger part. Hell on Sunday it looked like Wilfork had to really try to bring Ben down on a broken play. Not many guys in the NFL who are stronger than Wilfork...
 
jmdajr said:
someone took the time to make that :(
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yup. Follow him on twitter... @ConceptMayhem
 
exarkun said:
Then again, I have a friend who is also a Texans fan but not the good kind. He constantly lives in the past in relation to the rockets, he wears funny hats, and loves Tom Brady and his "Flow". Terrible fan, am i rite?
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You know ninja scooter in real life?
 
Bill Barnwell (Grantland) takes a look at the Pats' defense:

The Patriots have been preparing for this day for several years now. They just have very little to show for their preparation. Over the past five seasons, the Patriots have used 11 picks in the first three rounds of the NFL draft on defensive players. Only three of those players started on Sunday, and only one — safety Patrick Chung — has been playing at an above-average level this season. Three more (linebacker Jerod Mayo, cornerback Ras-I Dowling, and defensive lineman Ron Brace) are injured. Linebacker Jermaine Cunningham, a second-round pick in 2010, was a healthy scratch. The other four players have all been cut, including three players who would have been important cogs in the New England secondary if they'd developed. If Matt Millen had made these same 11 picks, we'd be laughing at him.
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jmdajr said:
Hilarious
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MechDX said:
Cue iapetus in 3...2...
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they just had the guy on the radio that wrote the letter, he works for Action news in Jacksonville. He started whiiiinning and cracking on battle red day and cracking on haliburton saying Houston was a warmongering city. Dude's off his rocker.
 
Most passing yards allowed in a season is 1995 Falcons with 4541, Patriots are on pace to give up 5170 and Packers are on pace to give up 4622 lol
 
jakncoke said:
Most passing yards allowed in a season is 1995 Falcons with 4541, Patriots are on pace to give up 5170 and Packers are on pace to give up 4622 lol
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One thing I will give to Green Bay - With a defense that porous their offense should have sputtered by now costing them a game, but so far they have always kept up.
 
DeaconKnowledge said:
One thing I will give to Green Bay - With a defense that porous their offense should have sputtered by now costing them a game, but so far they have always kept up.
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A lot of your deficiencies don't come up when you play shitty teams every week. The Pats offense looked unstoppable too until they finally played a decent defense (Steelers).

Though the Packers schedule is so pathetic they might not come down to Earth until the playoffs. I still think they won't go undefeated if only because they are resting all of their players in week 12 once they wrapped up homefield.
 
jakncoke said:
Most passing yards allowed in a season is 1995 Falcons with 4541, Patriots are on pace to give up 5170 and Packers are on pace to give up 4622 lol
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The really thing that should be scary for GB is that other than the Saints, they haven't played an opponent worth a damn. Lucky for them their offense can carry them...
 
bionic77 said:
A lot of your deficiencies don't come up when you play shitty teams every week. The Pats offense looked unstoppable too until they finally played a decent defense (Steelers).

Though the Packers schedule is so pathetic they might not come down to Earth until the playoffs. I still think they won't go undefeated if only because they are resting all of their players in week 12 once they wrapped up homefield.
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On the one hand, you are right that their schedule so far is laughably easy.

On the Other hand, The VERY similar Saints got handled by the then winless Rams for the same reason - Offense sputtered, shitty defense couldn't keep up.

captive said:
their defense hasnt been giving up a lot of points though has it?


looks like they are 9th in points allowed.
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Their opponents -

NO
CAR
CHI
DEN
ATL
STL
MIN

And of those, The Saints and Carolina took them to the limit. That stat is more a testament of the state of the league to be honest.
 
DeaconKnowledge said:
On the one hand, you are right that their schedule so far is laughably easy.

On the Other hand, The VERY similar Saints got handled by the then winless Rams for the same reason - Offense sputtered, shitty defense couldn't keep up.
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The difference between the Saints and Packers is one is good and has a great system qb, the other is horrible and has a turnover machine.

Brees seems pretty exposed without that amazing running attack that got them to the Superbowl. Then again, most qb's would look horrible if they had to slang it 60 times a game, but qb's get all the blame and glory.
 
There’s a small minority of league insiders who believe that Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck isn’t the franchise savior that most are making him out to be. Former NFL quarterback and current CBS/Showtime analyst Phil Simms appears to be a member of said minority.

“I think the hype is a little too much,” Simms told Adam Schein and Rich Gannon of SiriusXM NFL Radio on Tuesday. “I feel bad for him in that respect. I mean, what’s he going to do to match what they say he can do?

“There’s a lot to him. I think his best quality, by far, is he’s big and strong and he’s going to be able to move and run in the NFL. There’s no question. I mean, this guy is strong. The throwing? He manages a game. I see all that.

“But the one thing I don’t see, I just don’t see big time NFL throws. I don’t care what anybody says. I’ve watched a lot of him. He never takes it and rips it in there. And you can say what you want but, man, you’ve got to be able to crease that ball every once in a while. We see it every week in these games. Hey, he can develop it but even in the USC game, you know, he’s very careful with it, guides it a lot, Rich. That’s what I see. There’s not a lot of rotation on the ball and there’s not a tremendous amount of power. Not that you need to have that power arm. I’m not saying you’ve got to have that exclusively but, man, it sure helps when you can do that because there’s four or five plays a game it is about arm strength. And sometimes quarterbacks who don’t have it, they pass those plays up. Why? Well, they go, ‘I don’t know if I can make that throw,’ so they throw it short. That’s why I’m a little more reserved in my judgment than everybody else.”
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There's NFL fandom and then there's getting a huge tattoo on your left forearm to honor your favorite team. There's NFL optimism and then there's getting a huge tattoo on your left forearm to honor the Super Bowl championship that your favorite team has yet to (and almost certainly won't) win.

Meet the left forearm of Chris Brown. The Midland, Texas, resident tattooed it recently to commemorate the Super Bowl title he hopes his favorite team, the Houston Texans, will soon win. For his sake it better be soon. Brown's tattoo also includes the specific Super Bowl he expects the Texans to win: Super Bowl XLVI, to be played this February in Indianapolis.

So confident is Brown in the Texans that he had the tattoo artist include shading behind the roman numerals so that he couldn't go back and change it. Forget that Houston has never made it to the NFL playoffs, let alone won a postseason game. Brown is a man with confidence ... and hopefully a lot of long-sleeved shirts in his dresser.
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Now everyone, point and laugh.
 
jakncoke said:
Most passing yards allowed in a season is 1995 Falcons with 4541, Patriots are on pace to give up 5170 and Packers are on pace to give up 4622 lol
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While I wouldn't put it past this lousy defense to break that record, they'll play a lot of bad (passing) offenses down the road.

So confident is Brown in the Texans that he had the tattoo artist include shading behind the roman numerals so that he couldn't go back and change it.
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So he'll just fill out the white lines and make it a black stain?
 
I wonder what Phil thought of Chris' chances in the NFL.

Doomsayer said:
Now everyone, point and laugh.
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lol. The streak of bad decisions involving the Texans and the name Chris Brown continues.

EDIT: is that dude's goatee also tattooed on?
 
eznark said:
Enjoy a game with awesome defense hopefully. As opposed to the game featuring atrocious offense like we got Monday.

Some people think they are the same thing. I feel sorry for those people.
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Man, we really need an eyeroll emoticon.
 
bionic77 said:
He is definitely faster. Not sure about the bigger or stronger part. Hell on Sunday it looked like Wilfork had to really try to bring Ben down on a broken play. Not many guys in the NFL who are stronger than Wilfork...
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On that note, who is the strongest player in the NFL. I'm thinking Suh wins that.
 
Vyer said:
lol. The streak of bad decisions involving the Texans and the name Chris Brown continues.
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:jnc

what a moron. I dont see the point of tattoos, but especially stupid ass tattoos like that.
 
Is this the first Sunday this year where we will have good games for the entire day?

The biggest two are obviously Bills/Jets and Ravens/Steelers, both of which will probably determine who is going to the playoffs. And then at 4 we get to see a replay of Giants/Pats.

If only we got a great MNF game...

overcast said:
On that note, who is the strongest player in the NFL. I'm thinking Suh wins that.
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I think Wilfork is stronger. Neither could play the others guy position, but Wilforks job is to eat up blocks and create gaps for the other shitty players on his defense to make plays (which they usually don't). Suh is just a sack specialist, I don't see him destroying offensive lineman on running plays the way Wilfork does.
 
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