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NFL 2016 Offseason Thread |OT3| - With the 29th pick of the 2016 NFL draft...

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CrocMother

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Hello darkness my old friend...
 
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chuckddd

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dionysus said:
As maybe the only Saints fan who even views this thread anymore (what happened to malalaw?), I will weigh in.

DT Sheldon Rankins would be my pick. I am no means an expert player evaluator so I am not going to waste your time with a write up. Basically the Saints have a need at almost every defensive position except for MLB. Sheldon Rankins is in the conversation for one of the best defensive players left on the board, and the Saints need a DT.
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Sold. Fins gaf on the clock.
 
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bionic77

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Ninja Scooter said:
Baseball? That sport is for olds.

Also I would school Bionic in a game of basketball. I got a post game like Tione. He couldn't handle my shimmy. Plus I have healthy knees.
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I would shut your ass down in the post.

As my athletic ability declined by ability to play defense and pass went up dramatically. The only way you could beat me in one on one is if we played to more than 21. I am not sure I could handle that.

Speaking of basketball it is amazing how much the game has changed since I went to high school. Shooting 3s used to be for people who couldn't get to the basket and was left for white kids and scooters who were not manly enough to survive in the paint. I have noticed in just the past year a huge change in that trend. Even athletic kids are jacking up 3s on the break.

Charles Barkley must be rolling in his grave.
 
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Kave_Man

come in my shame circle
bionic77 said:
I would shut your ass down in the post.

As my athletic ability declined by ability to play defense and pass went up dramatically. The only way you could beat me in one on one is if we played to more than 21. I am not sure I could handle that.

Speaking of basketball it is amazing how much the game has changed since I went to high school. Shooting 3s used to be for people who couldn't get to the basket and was left for white kids and scooters who were not manly enough to survive in the paint. I have noticed in just the past year a huge change in that trend. Even athletic kids are jacking up 3s on the break.

Charles Barkley must be rolling in his grave.
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I hear you man. I was out of competitive bball for the last 5 years or so. My buddy convinced me to join his team this year and every fucking team we go against jacks a million 3s a game.

We basically force everyone inside and they end up useless as nobody has a midrange game and we have a tall center who intimidates enough to not have anyone even try to drive on him.
 
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bionic77

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Kave_Man said:
I hear you man. I was out of competitive bball for the last 5 years or so. My buddy convinced me to join his team this year and every fucking team we go against jacks a million 3s a game.

We basically force everyone inside and they end up useless as nobody has a midrange game and we have a tall center who intimidates enough to not have anyone even try to drive on him.
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Weird that all of these kids try to copy Curry's 3 point shooting but most of these stank ass motherfuckers never pass the ball.

I get as much pleasure from drawing the double and dropping a dime as I do from swishing a 3 in Ninja's face.
 
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CrocMother

Banned
What the hell does "From the Tigers to the Turf" even mean? Wasn't he on the turf as a Tiger?

Also was that drawn by a high school art student who won a contest?

Why is there a pyramid?
 
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Malalaw

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I'm still around, just cutting back on posting for a bit. Rankins should be the first pick they make for sure. Really can't see anyone else picked.
 
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RBH

Member
I used to be a wizard on the basketball court. :')

Then my left meniscus started giving me issues a couple of years ago. :(

Trying to rehab it on my own right now.
 
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Himynameischris

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Malalaw said:
Yeah go for it. It's the logical choice!
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Done

Mock Update:

1. Los Angeles Rams - Carson Wentz - QB - Himynameischris - Wentz has the size and strengths that NFL teams look for in a QB, he's got a big arm and he's athletic too. However on the field he's got a lot of work to do, He's got very sloppy footwork and he'd succeed in an offense that would limit his throws to the short/Intermediate routes, at least until he works on his deep ball accuracy. Surrounded by a strong run game that features Gurly and a good defense might be enough to help Wentz learn on the job.

Fantomex - With the first pick in the 2016 NFL Draft, The Los Angeles Rams select Carston Wentz from the University of North Dakota State. A two year starter (Hi Tannehill!) who went 20-3. Raised in an under center offense, pro style reads and standard progressions. His lack of big name competition seems to be one of the big knocks. But he has good arm strength, great reads, pocket presence and decent footwork in the pocket. He also possesses great athleticism, doing better in the shuttle than even some Cornerbacks in this years draft combine. Carson Wentz seems to have all the tools to be an NFL starter and learn on the go in 2016. Wether it’s Jon Gruden, Mike Mayock, Ron Jaworski, or Trent Dilfer, they all seem to be head over heels for this guy the more they talk with him, draw up plays and go over film together. Jon Gruden called him “the most NFL ready QB to come out of the draft in years”. Most analysts compare him to Troy Aikman, based on arm strength, pocket presence and footwork. I vehemently disagree on the pocket presence, he seems to be sorely lacking this trait. The Los Angeles Rams now in their new market, hope to make a splash. They have decided to bet big on Wentz, by trading with the Tennesse Titans to move up from #15 to #1 in this years draft. The terms are as follows: Tennessee gets: Rams' first-round pick (2016), two second-round picks (2016) third-round pick (2016), first-round pick (2017), third-round pick (2017).Rams get: Titans' first-overall pick (2016), fourth-round pick (2016), sixth-round pick (2016).

2. Cleveland Browns - Jared Goff - QB - FloydtheFathead - With the 2nd pick in the Draft. The Cleveland Browns select Jared Goff, QB from the University of Cal. Now personally, I think the Browns will trade down because Wentz is not available and I don't know if they are that sold on Jared. But for now, they'll take Jared Goff who will lead Cleveland to the Promised Land.

He's got good size. But needs to bulk up and has decent arm strength and vision and works through progressions and not just quick to dump off to the hot read.

He isn't as accurate from deep as other QBs and has played in the Spread rather than a pro style offense. But he performed well and set dozens of school records and I think Hue will develop him on the bench while RG3 hopefully stays healthy and might surprise us with a new version of himself somehow.

3. San Diego Chargers - Jalen Ramsey, DB - Bread - My San Diego Chargers select the next Deion Sanders, the next Malcolm Hero Butler, DB Jalen Ramsey.

My Chargers need a playmaker to replace old friend Eric Waddle. Ramsey should provide ball hawking skills and leadership. Bolt up or something I don't know what do we say? Save our bolts!

4. Dallas Cowboys - Laremy Tunsil, OT - CrocMother - There was discussion amongst Cowboys-GAF about Bosa and Zeke, but in the end neither were deemed worthy of such a high pick. There are reports the FO aren't fans of Bosa, and it's pretty clear that they don't have a lot of confidence in Myles Jack's knee.

Tunsil is 6'5", extremely athletic and widely regarded as the all-around best player in the draft. While the Cowboys obviously have no pressing need at OLine right now, Tunsil could significantly lower their cap hit in the coming future when their current studs' contracts come up.

There's also the possibility that Tunsil could be packaged in some sort of trade deal.

Either way, worst case scenario the Cowboys have one of the most dominant OLines of all time secured for years to come.

5. Jacksonville Jaguars - DeForest Buckner, DE - Dutch Patriot - The keyword voor the Jacksonville Jaguars this upcoming draft seems to be defence. The team is lacking some talent overall, but with Bortles at the helm, the offense could play well enough that with a good defense they can actually win games and hell, maybe even challenge for the AFC South title.

Looking at the stats, they ranked 31st in overall scoring defence, 29th in defending the pass and 15th in defending the run. They added some bodies on defence, including a rather big one in DT Malik Jackson, the lead actor from Coming to America at CB and Donte Fowler for the first time really joining the team after his injury last year.

Ramsey would probably be ideal, but just as in our draft, I assume he'll be gone before the Jags pick. Thus that leaves us with a few options: Joey Bosa, Myles Jack and DeForest Buckner. At first Jack seemed like no-brainer here, however, the injury news (smokescreens?) with regard to his knee has thrown me a bit of a curveball, so I think they might pass on him, since long-term talent will be crucial for the up-and-coming Jags. This also eliminates Bosa, who looks like a fuck-up waiting to happen.

6. Baltimore Ravens - Myles Jack, LB - Baltimore Larry - Simply put, he's the best player available, and that's what Ozzie Newsome does. If Jack does fall to six, the Ravens will happily grab him, where he looks to be an impact player from day one (if healthy). Pair him with CJ Mosely, Brandon Williams, and Jimmy Smith, giving the Ravens a nice nucleus. Adding Jack would immediately improve the defense, and despite the injury, there's too much talent to pass on here.

7. San Francisco 49'ers - Joey Bosa, DE - bigosc2k - 2015 the 49ers had an abysmal season on both sides of the ball. Figures 49ers would go defense in the first round towards the front 7 to get pressure towards the QB. Joey Bosa is the type of pass rusher this team needs to get back to their winning ways.

8. Philadephia Eagles - Vernon Hargreaves III, CB - Hindl - Despite the final tally, early in the season, the Eagles defense was playing very well. There's talent at all 3 levels of the defense that was being squandered by Billy Davis' terrible schemes and Chip Kelly's fast-paced offense going 3 and out all the time. The addition of Jim Schwartz should bring back the hard-hitting Philly Defense that's been missing since the passing of Jim Johnson. Between new players brought in to fit the scheme and as several of the Eagles' young stars already a better fit for the 4-3, this should be a formidable defense. One big weakness, however, is the CB position. Eric Rowe had a promising rookie season, and hopefully can build on that to become a top tier CB in the coming years. However, opposite him are a bunch of guys that are just ok. Pairing Rowe with another young star could push the defense over the edge. Enter Vernon Hargreaves.

Hargreaves has good instinct and is an aggressive defender. He can jam at the line and fight off defended balls. Occasionally Hargreaves will be too aggressive and will either be be baited by a smart QB or lose a step against great route runners. However, this should be balanced by his ball hawk nature causing plenty of turnovers and passes defended. Hargreaves reminds me of Asante Samuel, and him and Rowe should have the CB position locked down for years to come.

It was hard to decide between Hargreaves and Ezekiel Elliot, who could provide the lackluster Eagles offense with a weapon people would have to plan for. However, this is a team that needs a lot more talent than one guy on the offense. Meanwhile, adding another young piece to a young defense stocked with talent could push this team over the edge.

9. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Ronnie Stanley, OT - Syrinx - I really read without a magnifying glass so I'm not typing some long explanation.just say Donovan Smith sucks.

10. New York Giants - Leonard Floyd, LB - Georgia - Futurevoid - I'm on the Floyd train. Where there is smoke, there's fire and I've said it before. I don't think the Giants take Zeke even if he's on the board (despite my being a-ok with drafting him) . Floyd is a versatile pass rusher which is what the Giants covet right now as they continue to remake a historically bad defense. His body type is a concern but I would imagine the team will want him to play in the 245-248 range and move him around the front seven (yes even with his hand in the dirt). He did alot of things for Georgia and that versatility is exactly what Reese and the FO crave and why I think they go for him.

11. Chicago Bears - Ezekiel Elliot, RB - Ohio State - Minx - The Bears have obviously shown interest in adding another starting RB as they offered CJ Anderson the biggest contract. Bears have also has two pre draft visits with Elliott. I don't believe John Fox and Pace have confidence in Langford being a every down back. Elliott offers elite talent to replace Forte and takes pressure off Cutler who has to rely on a strong ground game. If Pace sticks with going best player avaliable then Elliott is the pick even with the NFL devaluing the position.

12. New Orleans Saints - Sheldon Rankins, DT - Louisville - Malalaw, Dionysus - I am no means an expert player evaluator so I am not going to waste your time with a write up. Basically the Saints have a need at almost every defensive position except for MLB. Sheldon Rankins is in the conversation for one of the best defensive players left on the board, and the Saints need a DT.
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With the 13th Pick the Miami Dolphins Select William Jackson III CB - Houston

The Dolphins are in desperate need of almost every position on the defense but CB is the most pressing, after letting go of Brent (and Miko) we were left without a starting CB. The trade for Maxwell gave us a good #2 but we still need another starter. Jackson is taller than the CBs we usually draft and Vance has been able to get the best of the CBs he had in Cincinnati. While Jackson will take a year or two to fully develop he can still come in on day one and play opposite Maxwell. Jackson has good ball skills, is able to track the ball well when it's throw his way and has great football instincts.

The Oakland Raiders are on the clock, I think they'll have the clock until Tomorrow unless they get a pick out early.
 
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effzee

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Pepiope said:
What I've heard was we'd give up

2016 1st
2017 1st
both 2016 3rd
2017 3rd

I mean if the Eagles believe Wentz is the guy, then Wentz is the guy, but they better be right.
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Right which I think is too much to give up on a QB not as sure of a thing as in previous drafts. We don't have a 2nd round pick so first player after the 2nd overall pick would be round 4.

With Bradford signed, they could really replenish some positions with picks 8, 77, and 79.

Then again they might think they won't be in the top 10 next season so this might be their chance at a top QB.
 
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AngmarsKing701

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effzee said:
Right which I think is too much to give up on a QB not as sure of a thing as in previous drafts. We don't have a 2nd round pick so first player after the 2nd overall pick would be round 4.

With Bradford signed, they could really replenish some positions with picks 8, 77, and 79.

Then again they might think they won't be in the top 10 next season so this might be their chance at a top QB.
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Didn't the Bradford deal have some weird stipulation about not starting until July 1 or something like that? I mean, isn't it possible that the Eagles trade up, take Wentz and dump Bradford without having to pay him anything? I thought I remembered seeing something about the contract having that weird time lag.
 
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Beach

Member
Nightmare scenario for the Raiders

I would pick Billings, Butler or Jackson III

Any other Raider fans can chip in

I'll pick by 10 if nothing else
 
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Officerrob

Banned
Beach said:
Nightmare scenario for the Raiders

I would pick Billings, Butler or Jackson III

Any other Raider fans can chip in

I'll pick by 10 if nothing else
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Jackson just got picked and I think Billings and Butler are 2nd rounders. In this situation since we can't trade back, I'd look at Reed or Conklin
 
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Officerrob

Banned
Beach said:
Woops misses the post above

Can also see Nkemdiche, who they've interviewed or Conklin and sit him a year/have him compete on the right
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I added to my previous post about going with either Reed or Conklin. Depending on what other's say I'd be good with Conklin in this shitty scenario
 
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Pepiope

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JABEE said:
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Joe Banner speaks.[/QUOTE]
Yep. I'm not worried at all. Only reason to trade up is for a QB. We don't need a QB. Smoke.

Only way it makes sense is if CLE wanted Bradford, but the Eagles can't trade him without looking like some assholes.
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MRSA

Banned
Officerrob said:
These were Mackenzie 92's preferences:



Looks like Conklin would be the pick. Do you want to write something up?
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Conklin would be a decent pick if we can't trade back, there's nothing wrong with doubling up on linemen, only thing is we're "loaded" at RT with Watson and Howard. Too bad Watson can't stay healthy and Howard is hurt too. We could plug Osemele at RT with Conklin playing RG (A lot of people will say he'd be a better guard than tackle in the NFL). Let the season play out and see if Watson, Conklin, or Osemele can outplay Penn at LT. Actually we could use another swing lineman (Osemele can play all positions except C) and Conklin can definitely be that guy. We need to pick up another C/G either later in the draft or late cuts.
 
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AntoneM

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Is it too late to be the Cards picker?

I think we should get a WR, but I don't think that's what the front office wants so I'd probably go linebacker, we'll see.
 
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