Hate watching the spread offense in the pros but its unavoidable now.
Cant wait a couple more years when offensive linemen are so bad out of college they have to bring back the Veer offense. Fun times indeed
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NFL 2017 Week 5 |OT| Free fallin', I'm-a free fallin'
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Hate watching the spread offense in the pros but its unavoidable now.
Cant wait a couple more years when offensive linemen are so bad out of college they have to bring back the Veer offense. Fun times indeed
Offensive variety is fun!
Alligatorjandro
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He loves the patriots
sf2fanatic
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Patriots don't love him
There's a difference between running the spread and using spread concepts in certain plays. The thing is, NFL defensive players are smart, and the spread is a fairly predictable set of formations and plays which defenses can key in on. At the end of the day it's still about finding ways to get your playmakers into favorable matchups.
One could argue that the OL problems are at least partially due to trying to fit OLs trained in spread systems into non-spread systems!
yankeehater
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I would love for a pro team to run the Wishbone full time, or the Veer. It would be so awesome to see someone in this damn sport try something different. Instead we get like 28 of 32 teams running some form of the damn WCO.
ya boy tried something different and the league chewed him up and spit him out. it just doesn't work
sf2fanatic
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It would probably work in Carolina.
AbortedWalrusFetus
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I think the spread isn't all that much fun to watch compared to pro style offense and I don't particularly like college football. I think the NFL should just create a D-League already and train players to fit their product.
yankeehater
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But it worked great. Chips offense were really good the first 2 years when the OL was good, even though he got terrible QB play. The 3rd year he got great QB play but the OL was a disaster. Give Chip a QB who can run his offense and a good OL and watch out. That offense would destroy teams.
Dude!!
Oh damn the Wishbone! Hated playing defense against teams that ran that shit in HS. We ran the veer so....
You can say that about any system though. "With a great QB and a good OL, we will destroy teams!" No duh.
Point is Chip's success was not sustainable because the spread offense is too simplistic to work in the NFL. And even when it does work, the speed hurts your defense.
Sweeney Tom
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McAdoo confirmed Odell's season is over
yankeehater
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Based on what? It worked all 3 years in Philly even though he had garbage like Foles the first 2 years. Aint no other NFL team done anything on offense with Foles at QB. Chip built a good offense with a terrible QB his first 2 years and his offense was middle of the road the 3rd year when they had no OL at all. If you gave Chip an average QB and OL right now he would have a top 5 offense.
HarryDemeanor
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But what about the Giants?
"A lot of good teams have started 0-5"
slightconfuse
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The Miami o-line coach doing cocaine is amazing
Ben definitely played like shit, and has been playing like shit the entirety of this season. But you're doing the team a disservice if you end the conversation there. There's no reason to run Bell 15 times against the worst run defense in the league, and to pass as much as we did against the best pass defense in the league (I know that stat is misleading). There's no reason that our offensive line and Bell could only muster up 3.1 yards a carry against the worst run defense in the league.
Ben definitely deserves most of the blame, and deservedly so. But our offensive line, TEs, Haley, etc. have been disgustingly sub par as well.
It's no Walsh/Holmgren tree, that's for sure.
I mean the GB coaching staff itself has been suspect for a bit now
Slightly hot take but I feel like Holmgren gets overlooked a lot when people talk about great NFL coaches
He should be in the HOF
Can't expect to win when your best WR only gets 19 targets.
he really should be. isnt he one of the only coaches to take two teams to the Super Bowl? plus his coaching tree left behind a pretty decent legacy. One of his proteges is still coaching
He will, but Reese is gone and he will be right behind him.
I'll always be here for you bb.
TheCochese
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On a long enough timeline, Todd Haley will always disappoint.
Alligatorjandro
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Thats obviously Herman
AbortedWalrusFetus
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I really wonder how they grade him if he doesn't try to force that TD at the end of the half. I mean, the turnover didn't hurt them at all and it was a fine situation to take risks in, but still.
Yes. Yes he is.
I doubt it would have effected much. They still would have dinged him for all the "INTable" passes they seem to conjure up out of nowhere.
Lions lost and...I feel nothing.
Terrible for Odell. The way his ankle moved...looked damn painful.
Terrible for Odell. The way his ankle moved...looked damn painful.
AbortedWalrusFetus
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Could be. I'm even a bit torn with dinging him too harshly for his INT although it and the previous throw were bad. The logic behind taking those shots was ok to me. You're close to the red zone with little time left on the clock and your defense has been playing well. Another TD in that situation would have been great. You can play it conservatively and just take the field goal but do you really need to be conservative in that situation? Take a few shots at the end zone and see if magic happens. The problem is he made two awful throws in the process, not the choice to make the throws themselves.