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NFL Divisional 2012 |OT| Schaubenfraud

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Fox318

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MechDX said:
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Back and to the left....back and to the left....back and to the left
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This makes me sad.
 
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Futurevoid

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DeaconKnowledge said:
Todd Haley could get hired as the next Cardinals coach.
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Wasn't what I was referring to. I was asking why you think more Steelers coaches/FO people aren't poached?

Buckethead said:
I would have sex with Courtney Cox in Ace Ventura, I'd have sex with her in Scream, I'd have sex with her in the Longest Yard, I'd have sex with her in Cougar Town.

I would fuck her in a box,
I would fuck her with a fox.
I would fuck her here or there,
I would fuck her any where!!
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She looked better pre-implants/botox and whatever other fake shit she's had done to her. Meh.
 
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Starphoenix

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mr2xxx said:
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Where are they planning to put a new stadium, back in DC? Also no way they change the name after this long of a period. It doesn't seem like there is a big enough movement to get the name changed.
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It's politically motivated:

Washington D.C. mayor Vincent C. Gray suggested Wednesday that he'd like to discuss a possible name change with the Washington Redskins franchise.

This especially could become an issue if the Redskins want to relocate within city limits with a new stadium.

"I think that if they get serious with the team coming back to Washington, there's no doubt there's going to have to be a discussion about that, and of course, the team is going to have to work with us around that issue," Gray said, via The Washington Post.

The topic of the Redskins' offensive nickname has come often over the years. Courtland Milloy of The Post wrote a serious column on the issue Wednesday with a silly premise: That Robert Griffin III's injury was karmic payback for the nickname.

Once you got past the poorly timed conceit of the piece, Milloy presented the case against the nickname in strong fashion. We agree with most everything he writes, with this simple question sticking out.

"Does anyone really believe that the name 'Redskins' will survive the 21st century?" Milloy w
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There's no chance. Can you imagine any other ethnic group being a nickname/mascot for a team? Getting rid of the name is progress. It's inevitable. Why delay the inevitable?
rites.

"I think it has become a lightning rod, and I would be love to be able to sit down with the team ... and see if a change should be made," Gray said. "There's a precedent for this, and I think there needs to be a dispassionate discussion about this, and do the right thing."

Gray is in position to make the nickname a political and financial issue. If the Redskins don't change the name, they might not get a new stadium.
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...r-wants-to-discuss-changing-redskins-nickname
 
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LJ11

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Godslay said:
A Denver radio host is absolutely sold on Warmack. Wants Denver to trade up to grab him, might be the afterglow of the championship domination, but he said he's going early to mid first round without a doubt.
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He's a great player, most GMs don't have the balls to take a G top 10, some won't take a G in the first half period, but his play certainly warrants it. Who cares about the position, he's a great player that dominates up front.

Most GM's will jump at the opportunity to take a big DT that can clog the middle and collapse a pocket, but give those same GM's the opportunity to draft a player who can stop that man in the middle and they'll hesitate.

Edit: Guess you can find guards later, larger pool, but there's also late and mid round DTs who play really well at the next level.
 
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Godslay

Banned
LJ11 said:
He's a great player, most GMs don't have the balls to take a G top 10, some won't take a G in the first half period, but his play certainly warrants it. Who cares about the position, he's a great player that dominates up front.

Most GM's will jump at the opportunity to take a big DT that can clog the middle and collapse a pocket, but give those same GM's the opportunity to draft a player who can stop that man in the middle and they'll hesitate.

Edit: Guess you can find guards later, larger pool, but there's also late and mid round DTs who play really well at the next level.
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He seems to think that he is an upgrade to what we have now. Even over Chris Kuper (mainly because of injuries).

I can see where he is coming from, in that he wants the best protection for Manning. I think it really boils down to what you want to do with the future. If Elway is trying to build the team for the future, he might not be a bad pick to take or move up a bit to take. If you want to try and get it done in 2-3 years and rebuild, I think you take a dynamic playmaker (such as Austin).

Personally, I want them to go all in for the remainder of Manning's career and rebuild afterwards if they have to. Elway seems to be skirting the line though.
 
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DeaconKnowledge

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this is weird as hell. My internet is down - except for GAF.

Futurevoid said:
Wasn't what I was referring to. I was asking why you think more Steelers coaches/FO people aren't poached?
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steelers front office tend not to allow interviews. when they do, they'll kick and scratch to retain.

Keith Butler (our LB coach) went to interview for a DC job elsewhere. steelers upped his salary and asked him to stay - he's earmarked to be Lebeau's successor.

Not saying it doesn't happen but they haven't been ravaged like the Packers or Patriots have.
 
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effzee

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Brian Kelly?

God damn we are interviewing and everyone.

Some Eagles fans are panicking as if missing out on Brien and Chimp Kelly means we failed. Good article in the Philly papers today about how hiring a coach right away doesn't guarantee much of anything. And teams that have hired as late as Jan 22nd have found good coaches.

Still not sure on how Howie and his judgement but no problem with a long process that looks at all available candidates.
 
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Bowser

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DeaconKnowledge said:
this is weird as hell. My internet is down - except for GAF.



steelers front office tend not to allow interviews. when they do, they'll kick and scratch to retain.

Keith Butler (our LB coach) went to interview for a DC job elsewhere. steelers upped his salary and asked him to stay - he's earmarked to be Lebeau's successor.

Not saying it doesn't happen but they haven't been ravaged like the Packers or Patriots have.
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Spoke too soon!

MMehtaNYDN: Jets will interview Steelers executive Omar Khan for vacant GM job tomorrow, per source. #nyj
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Nightz

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Godslay said:
Poor Nightz, he wrote something to the effect of avoiding this:

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Things can only go up from here! Norv and AJ are gone, and watching Tom Telesco's press conference today, I'm super excited about the future.
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cuevas. PhD.

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FrenchMovieTheme said:
who gives a shit about the baseball hall of fame or baseball in general? no one wants that in a football thread. its like when i want to watch some lesbodian porn and here comes a couple dicks into the equation and it doesn't belong. there is a time and a place for baseball talk just like there is a time and place for cocks on film, but the time for baseball is not here and is not now
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Just like no one likes feces in their regular porn. And just how we don't like your shit posts in the NFL thread.

boom jk <3
 
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Talon

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Talon said:
The Atlanta Falcons enter the 2012 season after a major coaching shakeup on offense and defense. Turkeyneck preemptively exited the team for a job at Auburn University &#8211; a textbook example of reading the tealeaves. Mike Mularkey parlayed an offensive shutout in the postseason into the head coaching position at Jacksonville.

Enter Mike Nolan and Dirk Koetter.

Mike Nolan brings a reputation for using multiple fronts to Atlanta, a stark departure from the previous regime, which relied heavily on cover 3 in last season - taxing the defensive backfield over the course of the game. Nolan has a long history at DC in the NFL, working with the Giants, Redskins, Jets, and, most notably, the Ravens as Rex Ryan's predecessor. He parlayed that job into an unsuccessful GM/HC position in San Francisco, where he most notably passed over Aaron Rodgers for Alex Smith. Luckily, he bounced back from that job with a successful stint at Denver for one year. He moved onto Miami, where he served as DC for two seasons, most notably developing Cameron Wake into a pass rushing force. He has a reputation for bringing pressure from all players in the front 7, putting strain on his secondary.

Falcons fans who had grown frustrated with Turkeyneck's predictable playcalling are excited to see the results of Nolan's aggressive defense - particularly after seeing the elite quarterbacks of this league slice and dice his cover 3 look with nickel 3-3-5 personnel by picking on LB Stephen Nicholas and CB Chris Owen in the past season. However, it must be said that the Falcons had to deal with deficiencies in the defensive backfield over the past few seasons, and the reality is that the defense played its best half in the playoff tilt against the Giants before the damn broke.

On offense, the Falcons look to take the reins off the offense with the departure of Mularkey. Dirk Koetter has a reputation for vertical offense - with early offensive success at Boise State kick starting his career. At Arizona State, he developed a reputation for folding against ranked opponents, but their pass-happy attack was not at fault. In Jacksonville, he had much success developing Maurice Jones Drew, but weakness at the quarterback position, particularly last season, led to a lackluster departure.

Falcons fans were looking for change on the offensive side of the ball as well, although Mularkey and Ryan led the team to great highs. Mularkey's playcalling was lauded in his first two seasons, but fans had grown tired of the offense telegraphing run and lackluster screen plays and failing in short yardage situations.

The Atlanta Falcons regime of owner Arthur Blank, general manager Thomas Dmitroff, and head coach Mike Smith have seen outstanding results in the past four seasons. For a franchise that has largely been a joke throughout its existence, this is the first time it has ever seen back-to-back winning seasons (four now) and back-to-back playoff berths. It seems that the Falcons agreed with the fans who had grown frustrated with the conservative and predictable playcalling on both sides of the ball. We'll see if the Falcon's gamble for more aggression on both sides of the ball will turn out to be the right call.

POSITION PLAYERS

[QB] Matt Ryan enters his fifth season with fans wondering if he's reached his ceiling. He's improved every year in the league, throwing 29 TD with 7.4 YPA last season - this with rookie Julio Jones missing a few games and Roddy White dropping a league high 14 passes. It's a critical year for Ryan, as the team has assembled an explosive supporting cast around him, and he has shown up in training camp with a few more pounds of muscle and a greater focus on explosive plays down the field. He's shown success connecting with Jones in camp, and Ryan, as always, has been saying the same things and putting pressure on himself. However, the postseason is really where it counts. The reality is that he's already the best quarterback to ever don a Falcons uniform, but fans hope that he can bring a championship to the beleaguered football town. Chris Redman is entrenched as the backup, although he is more familiar with Mularkey's offense. John Parker Wilson and Dominique Davis are engaged in an all-out battle for the 3rd QB slot. Davis has shown a strong arm all camp, whereas Wilson has suffered accuracy issues. JPW is out of options to sit on the practice squad, whereas Davis can be kept, which may be the deciding factor.

[RB] Michael Turner returns as the lead back, although the Falcons staff is talking up Jacquizz Rodgers as more than a third down back. The Falcons&#8217; failure to implement an effective screen game have been glaring in recent years, particularly as a division rival a few hundred miles west has had great success with it. Don&#8217;t expect Rodgers to be a major factor in fantasy leagues, but he will get a fair amount of touches. Turner is expected to have a lighter load, with the team expecting him to get closer to 250 carries rather than 350 carries, although this poster is a bit skeptical of that. Jason Snelling returns as the third back, and fans know that he has saved drives on more than one occasion with his surprising shiftiness in the open field. His versatility as a blocker and receiver out of the backfield makes him an invaluable asset to the squad.

The Falcons have deemphasized the fullback position, as shown by fan-favorite Ovie Mughelli being cut. Mike Cox and rookie Bradie Ewing are engaged in a battle for one job, particularly with Snelling having experience at FB.
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[OL] This group will decide how far the Falcons go. The big newcomer is Wisconsin hog Peter Konz. He&#8217;s challenging for the RG position along with Garrett Reynolds, who struggled for most of last season &#8211; resulting in the team running extensively to the left side. The hope is that Konz will unseat him and solve the weakest point on the line, although Reynolds has showed well in camp. The team showed faith in Sam Baker by retaining him as the starting LT &#8211; although the recent retirement by McNeill due to health issues seems to indicate there wasn&#8217;t much out there. He&#8217;s been bothered by back problems his entire year and has consistently struggled with speed rushers &#8211; a real point of consternation for Falcons fans. Will Svitek backs him up &#8211; following up a season where he played solidly filling in for a few games. Lamar Holmes was drafted in the third round but is nothing more than a project at this point. Blalock returns at LG, where he&#8217;s been average at best. Todd McClure also enters his last season, as the team grooms Joe Hawley as his eventual replacement, although Konz may return to his college position when it&#8217;s all said and done. Mike Johnson rounds out the group of key backups &#8211; he started out at G/C, but he&#8217;s being moved all over the field. Again, the position groups lacks athleticism, which will limit the team&#8217;s ability to go with an empty backfield.

[DE] John Abraham is still the man. For a team that&#8217;s relied on its front four (or three), he&#8217;s been incredibly effective despite playing closer to 40% of the team&#8217;s snaps. At the same time, he dropped back into coverage at an alarming rate last season &#8211; hopefully Nolan will put a stop to that. Ray Edwards had a disappointing year last season, which he largely blames on a lingering knee problem. He yet again underwent offseason knee surgery, but he claims he feels much healthier than he did last season. He&#8217;s not expected to be a double digit sack guy year after year, but he needs to show the power he lacked last season. Kroy Biermann and Lawrence Sidbury figure to get a lot of playing time in Mike Smith&#8217;s philosophy of rotating linemen to keep everyone fresh. All eyes are on Sidbury this year after a year where he got lost in the shuffle. Coach Ray Hamilton is talking him up, and Nolan has a history of getting the most out of tweeners. Did I mention he&#8217;s in the last year of his rookie contract? Jonathan Massaquoi and Cliff Matthews will be competing for a spot on the team, although the Falcons could keep more linemen with a dearth of linebacker depth.

[DT] Jonathan Babineaux comes off a seriously disappointing season inside. He&#8217;ll need to make an impact in the pass rush this season to free up his compatriots on the line. Corey Peters and Peria Jerry are battling it out for the second starting position, although the former has suffered an injury in camp &#8211; opening the door for the recovering Jerry. Jerry&#8217;s two years off from a major knee injury, and he&#8217;s shown more of a burst in camp than last year, but the Falcons can&#8217;t rely on his health. Vance Walker is a key reserve, but he also sustained an injury in camp.

Overall, the defensive line is the deepest unit on the team when it comes to players in the prime of their careers. Edwards and Babineaux look to bounce back from subpar years, and the added talent in the defensive backfield should give the whole unit a boost.

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[CB] The biggest personnel addition of the offseason by far was Asante Samuel. He bolsters a position group that lacked depth beyond Dunta Robinson and Brent Grimes, who missed the playoff game against the Giants with a leg injury. The Falcons expect to play nickel and dime formations extensively with the Packers, Saints, and Giants in their conference, and the trio will be a huge improvement over much maligned Chris Owens and mediocre Dominique Franks in the nickel spot. Robinson is expected to slide inside most often. Darin Walls and Rob McClain are in competition with Walls having the benefit of experience.

The big question for this group is around how Nolan will utilize zone specialists Samuel and Grimes in the upcoming season. Robinson had been average in Turkeneck&#8217;s zone coverages, and he&#8217;s stated that he&#8217;s forward to playing more man this season, which may telegraph where Nolan is headed.

Thomas DeCoud has improved every year he&#8217;s played, and the addition of Samuels in front of him should be a boon to the entire group. William Moore had a great year last season&#8230;when he played. The former Missouri Tiger continued to battle injuries, missing 4+ games, and his health will be a continual question going into this season. Chris Hope was signed in the offseason to provide depth, and there&#8217;s little doubt that he&#8217;ll need to step in for a game or two. DeCoud and Moore are expected to be involved in pressure packages with the latter the most likely candidate due to his size.
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The Falcons haven&#8217;t seen much shakeup in personnel. After all, this team has come off four consecutive winning seasons, losing to the eventual Superbowl champs in the past two seasons (Packers and Giants). The front office hopes that a coordinator shakeup will reinvigorate the players &#8211; much like the hiring of Wade Phillips produced in Houston.

Atlanta fans are cautious after decades of disappointment from most of our franchises, but it doesn&#8217;t hurt to have a bit of (tempered) optimism.
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The coordinator changes have made a big difference. Offense played with more confidence. Defense was opportunistic despite the chunk plays allowed.

The big surprise of the season has been the secondary. William Moore and Thomas Decoud took that next step as a safety tandem. Rob McClain came out of nowhere and stepped up at nickel back. Chris Owens even made a number of plays in the ball for the first time in his life, presumably.

Sam Baker's reliability has also been a surprise. He hasn't been dominant by any means, but he chose the right year to play out his best season.

Screen game has been a relevation. We have like 62 or so attempts - that's at least 10 times as much as the previous three seasons combined, no joke.
 
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Godslay

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Nightz said:
Things can only go up from here! Norv and AJ are gone, and watching Tom Telesco's press conference today, I'm super excited about the future.
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Get the right guys and things seem to turn around really fast. Cheers to the AFC West being half way decent in the near future.
 
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Nightz

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Godslay said:
Get the right guys and things seem to turn around really fast. Cheers to the AFC West being half way decent in the near future.
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Yeah, I'm hoping this offseason is spent rebuilding the O-line and getting some help in the secondary.

Also I'm hoping that Jon Gruden is hired as the head coach, if only for the faces that will ensue.

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They're perfect for each other.
 
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squicken

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Bowser said:
MMehtaNYDN: Jets will interview former Bears G.M. Jerry Angelo tomorrow for vacant GM job, per source.
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I hope they interview AJ Smith next

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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...explains-rob-ryan-firing?campaign=Twitter_atl

I didn't like the way we were playing in a lot of cases," Jones said in an interview with KTVT-TV in Dallas, via ESPNDallas.com. "I thought we could play better before the injuries, and so I factored that in. It wasn't like we had a lot of injuries out here when we played Chicago. It wasn't like we had a lot of injuries when we played Seattle. I didn't like the way we played there.

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The Cowboys lost 27-7 to the Seahawks, but two first-quarter turnovers by the special teams unit put them down 10-0. They lost to the Bears 34-18, but Tony Romo threw five interceptions, including two that were returned for touchdowns.
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Sure does sound like it was the defense's fault ...
 
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Bowser

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Sounds like the Jets are totally resetting their GM search:

MMehtaNYDN: Seahawks VP of Football Administration John Idzik will interview for Jets GM job on Friday, per @JasonLaCanfora. #nyj

MMehtaNYDN: Jim Popp, GM of Montreal Alouettes in CFL, is believed to be on Jets GM radar as well, I'm told. He had been in mix for Panthers job #nyj

About Jim Popp:

JasonLaCanfora: Shahid Khan flew to Charlotte, near Popp's home, for lengthy interview for Jags job and Panthers met with him as well sources said

RUSSLANDE: Sources tell me that despite Panthers hiring of Dave Gettleman, Jim Popp had an excellent interview & impressed enough to make choice tough.
 
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Turnstile

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Happy to get tickets, but stressed about driving in for the game with the upcoming storm. Sometimes I fly, sometimes I drive. Most of the time I've been lucky driving. Hopefully that can continue..

In the 8 seasons that I've had tickets, these playoffs have me pumped up the most.
Extremely excited.

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TheKaeptain

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Buckethead said:
I would have sex with Courtney Cox in Ace Ventura, I'd have sex with her in Scream, I'd have sex with her in the Longest Yard, I'd have sex with her in Cougar Town.

I would fuck her in a box,
I would fuck her with a fox.
I would fuck her here or there,
I would fuck her any where!!
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What about in He-Man?
 
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chuckddd

Fear of a GAF Planet
Turnstile said:
Happy to get tickets, but stressed about driving in for the game with the upcoming storm. Sometimes I fly, sometimes I drive. Most of the time I've been lucky driving. Hopefully that can continue..

In the 8 seasons that I've had tickets, these playoffs have me pumped up the most.
Extremely excited.
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Driving from where? Have fun.
 
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Greg

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Turnstile said:
Happy to get tickets, but stressed about driving in for the game with the upcoming storm. Sometimes I fly, sometimes I drive. Most of the time I've been lucky driving. Hopefully that can continue..

In the 8 seasons that I've had tickets, these playoffs have me pumped up the most.
Extremely excited.
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Jealous.

I don't care what team it is - I'd love to go to an NFL playoff game.
 
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Drakeon

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Bowser said:
Sounds like the Jets are totally resetting their GM search:

MMehtaNYDN: Seahawks VP of Football Administration John Idzik will interview for Jets GM job on Friday, per @JasonLaCanfora. #nyj

MMehtaNYDN: Jim Popp, GM of Montreal Alouettes in CFL, is believed to be on Jets GM radar as well, I'm told. He had been in mix for Panthers job #nyj

About Jim Popp:

JasonLaCanfora: Shahid Khan flew to Charlotte, near Popp's home, for lengthy interview for Jags job and Panthers met with him as well sources said

RUSSLANDE: Sources tell me that despite Panthers hiring of Dave Gettleman, Jim Popp had an excellent interview & impressed enough to make choice tough.
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Yay they aren't stealing Tom Gamble from us. Thanks Jets.
 
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