NFL investigating the Patriots on possible deflated football allegations

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JasonMCG said:
I don't see how using an under-inflated ball stops Blount from running 3 TDs down the throat of the Colts defense.
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Better grip for Blount and the ball becomes a smaller target, and therefore harder for the Colts to force a fumble. There is a chance that there could have been a few fumbles on the Patriots scoring drives that the Colts could have recovered making it a more competitive game.
 
JasonMCG said:
I don't see how using an under-inflated ball stops Blount from running 3 TDs down the throat of the Colts defense.
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It made him lighter!

LowlySmokeGuy said:
Better grip for Blount and the ball becomes a smaller target, and therefore harder for the Colts to force a fumble. There is a chance that there could have been a few fumbles on the Patriots scoring drives that the Colts recovered making it a more competitive game.
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I hate all things Boston when it comes to sports, but wouldn't the officials handling the Pats balls notice something?
 
Organization known for cheating and bending the rules suspected of cheating, what are the odds.

But no, seriously, no team loses a game by 38 points unless they're just severely outmatched.
 
"I think I've heard it all at this point ... it's ridiculous. I don't even respond to stuff like this.
”- Tom Brady
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That might be because your team has gotten caught doing it all, you pocket sitting fraud.

Can't wait for the Hawks to put him on his ass.
 
Slurmer said:
Hey you guys remember when the patriots secretly recorded other teams' practices and won 3 Super Bowls as a result?
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Hey, that's a good point! I wonder if that could have anything to do with this current unexpected and totally accidental recurrence of rule-flaunting.

But no, that was a long time ago. Surely the owner, coach, and QB have all changed since then! This Patriots squad must be squeaky clean, and these allegations entirely untrue.
 
Byakuya769 said:
No other objections besides the technicality on your non-scrambling chump quarterback constantly protected more than any of his peers by a stellar o-line.. or just videotapes...
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Non-scrambling!? Oh my what a terrible insult.

BTW he ran in for a td against the Ravens.
 
So the Colts informed the Refs and the NFL after the Jackson INT.
http://www.newsday.com/sports/footb...ll-probe-after-afc-championship-win-1.9821346
According to a person familiar with the background of the matter, the Colts first noticed something unusual after an interception by Colts linebacker D’Qwell Jackson in the second quarter. Jackson gave the ball to a member of the Colts' equipment staff, who noticed the ball seemed underinflated and then notified coach Chuck Pagano.

General manager Ryan Grigson was notified in the press box, and he contacted Mike Kensil, NFL director of football operations. Kensil then told the on-field officials at halftime, when the Patriots led 17-7. The Patriots erupted for 21 points in the third quarter, although it is not known if any of the balls were improperly inflated after halftime.

Asked Monday about the balls, Pagano said: “Did not notice, and that’s something for the league to handle. It’s not my place to comment on it.”

The Colts did not notice any irregularities with the game-day footballs when the teams played in Indianapolis in November.
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The Refs change the ball to begin the 3rd quarter.
 
This is hilarious. All this outrage over the inflation of the balls in a 45-7 game. The refs check the balls pre-game and even swapped the balls before the Pats' first drive in the 2nd half, after the ball switch the Pats outscored Indy 28-0.

The real question is what evil will happen in two weeks? Over-inflating Wilson's balls? Spiking Sherman's food? Sacrificing Tebow to the football gods in some sort of blood ritual?
 
StanleyStutters said:
This is hilarious. All this outrage over the inflation of the balls in a 45-7 game. The refs check the balls pre-game and even swapped the balls before the Pats' first drive in the 2nd half, after the ball switch the Pats outscored Indy 28-0.

The real question is what evil will happen in two weeks? Over-inflating Wilson's balls? Spiking Sherman's food? Sacrificing Tebow to the football gods in some sort of blood ritual?
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They will infuse sherms elbow sleeve with silver so he gets a rash. He will scratch it till it bleeds.

And use the blood for the tebow ceremony.
 
Wait, the teams supply the games and not the league? And, it was hilarious when the refs were scampering around, because nobody had a 'regular' football, and almost used the 'kickoff' ball.
 
Jim Irsay is such a poor sport. Worst owner in the NFL.

Remember the time when the league literally changed the illegal contact rules because Ty Law and company kept shitting on the Colts in the playoffs?
 
It would be pretty funny is found guilty, not that it actually would've made a difference though, they were simply the better team. (which would also add to the humor of it all)
 
We literally have Pats fans here saying cheating not only doesn't matter in this instance, but also doesn't matter ever, while simultaneously containing the idea that their team doesn't and has never cheated because cheating is irrelevant. Something something tea party.
 
Zizbuka said:
Wait, the teams supply the games and not the league? And, it was hilarious when the refs were scampering around, because nobody had a 'regular' football, and almost used the 'kickoff' ball.
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No the balls are centrally supplied the day before the game, and are worked on by each teams equipment guys to remove the shine from the ball (to weather it in) before being handed back.

“It’s all about the grip,” one of the men said. “For a quarterback on a very cold and rainy day, if he’s gripping a rock-hard football, that’s different than gripping a football that is softer and has some give to it. If you take a pound out of the footballs, that could be a significant difference in handling the ball.”

Last year, I was in Chicago for a story for The MMQB on a Week in the Life of an Officiating Crew. I saw the men on the crew work at inflating the game balls to just the right pressure. In the NFL, footballs have to be filled to a pressure of 12.5 pounds to 13.5 pounds per square inch of air. Each week, teams customarily would be able to prepare 12 footballs for the game. When I say “prepare,” I mean equipments guys and/or ballboys would take the balls before the game and rub the shine and slipperiness off the balls, so they’d be easier for quarterbacks to grip and receivers to catch and running backs to hold, and then return them to the officials in the officials’ locker room.

Each team would be able to condition six “K” balls, or balls used only by the team’s punter and kicker, for 45 minutes on the day of the game. During the week before the game, each team gets to condition 12 balls for use by its offensive team. In the event of a game with bad weather in the forecast, the NFL would mandate 24 balls be conditioned during the week of the game by each side—12 to be used in the first and the other 12, kept in the locker room at halftime, to be used in the second half. I do not know for sure that this was such a game on Sunday, but I can assume, with the stakes involved and the bad weather Sunday in the Foxboro area, there were probably 24 balls conditioned by each team.

Before the game, those 12 or 24 balls would have been returned to the officiating crew in the officials locker room. Each ball would be weighed and measured so that 12.5 to 13.5 pounds of pressure would be found in each football. Then the balls would be put in a zipped-up ball bag and, just before the start of the game, be handed to the ballboys working the sidelines.
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The question is how where the Patriots mean to have been able to deflate the balls, once weighed they're handed over to the ball boys in sealed containers. I'm not seeing how they'd be able to without the complicity of the ball boys. It's a minor advantage if it's true, but an advantage nonetheless so there should be some punishment if only to discourage the practice.
 
Stinkles said:
We literally have Pats fans here saying cheating not only doesn't matter in this instance, but also doesn't matter ever, while simultaneously containing the idea that their team doesn't and has never cheated because cheating is irrelevant. Something something tea party.
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Oh, they've cheated before, something I frequently like to mention to my brother but deflated ball or not, Colts aren't winning. Did you even watch the game?

The fact they so clearly are the better team is what would make being guilty pretty damn funny though, and have the pats looking silly as fuck. (and yes, punish them for it)

also, not exactly a pats fan these days, with football in general barely holding my interest anymore.
 
BobLoblaw said:
All of this deflated football/cheating talk will just fuel him. Let people keep talking.
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Agreed athletes always say they don't pay attention to the critics and haters but they do. They read the blogs, they browse the web and know what everyone is talking about regarding them. You see what happened after spygate, though the pats didn't win the super bowl they absolutely destroyed every team they faced. They had people complaining about them running up the score and just absolutely pounded teams in. I expect Brady and the Pats to come out with that same fuel they had during the spygate BS and take care of business.
 
Elfforkusu said:
Hey, that's a good point! I wonder if that could have anything to do with this current unexpected and totally accidental recurrence of rule-flaunting.

But no, that was a long time ago. Surely the owner, coach, and QB have all changed since then! This Patriots squad must be squeaky clean, and these allegations entirely untrue.
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Jesus do you realise how salty this sounds? Calm down.
 
I'm chuckling at like 50% of posts in this thread.

The salty ones, obviously.

This is the theater of the absurd.
 
uniform said:
This will all be covered up. Fine. Just know there's many of us that know the truth.

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LOL! I don't even know why those type of people continue to watch football. The fans who say stuff like I swear this game was fixed! the refs was paid off! this team cheated! the league covers up fixes and cheating. I swear if I really believed and thought like that I wouldn't watch football at all.
 
This thread feels like it's getting out of hand. All I know is that the colts got destroyed and it'll be an interesting super bowl. Patriots offense against seahawks defense should be good. And you can sure bet the officials will be checking those footballs
 
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Sometimes footballs just go down. Happens all the time. Maybe the one the colts got was one that just started deflating.

Also indy need to be careful because the crew on that game are not going to like having their integrity questioned. Maybe to the point of legal intervention.
 
seanoff said:
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Sometimes footballs just go down. Happens all the time. Maybe the one the colts got was one that just started deflating.

Also indy need to be careful because the crew on that game are not going to like having their integrity questioned. Maybe to the point of legal intervention.
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What? The refs aren't going to sue the Colts. They'll just never give them favor with calls anymore. Luck will never get a roughing the pass call again.
 
Spinluck said:
I prefer "0-3 since Spygate."
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I like the stat where the Patriots completely shit on the Colts every time they play them after Manning left.

It's sad that with Peyton fading out there are practically no other teams in the AFC capable of putting up a decent fight, save the Ravens.
 
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