NFL investigating the Patriots on possible deflated football allegations

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PlayALLtheGames said:
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That's not Salt just the Moon....
 
n64coder said:
The refs at the game are some of the best in the league. Do you really think they don't know the rules?
Illegal formation is when you don't have 5 ineligible men on the line in the middle with two eligbles at the ends with a minimum of seven on the line. Illegal substitution is typically when you have too many men on the field.
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or the huddle. And the players don't need to be grouped together around the ballthey can spread'em as thin as they want, but they still have to adhere to the rules of eligibility.
 
wedward said:
Ok.

How does that change where it originated from?

It was brought to their attnetion by someone.
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What does the source matter? It's irrelevant to whether a rule was broken or not. The nfl doesn't just investigate and humor baseless whining about the refs. See: john harbaugh crying about pats cheating after they got beat.
 
elrechazado said:
What does the source matter? It's irrelevant to whether a rule was broken or not. The nfl doesn't just investigate and humor baseless whining about the refs. See: john harbaugh crying about pats cheating after they got beat.
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If this is true it doesnt just reflect poorly on the Pats but on the NFL as a whole. Of course they would investigate it.
 
elrechazado said:
What does the source matter? It's irrelevant to whether a rule was broken or not. The nfl doesn't just investigate and humor baseless whining about the refs. See: john harbaugh crying about pats cheating after they got beat.
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Well the source came from Indy didn't it? And Indy just lost to the Pats so I think source kind of does matter. It could just be some reporter who's an Indy fan looking for ways to vent.
 
WesternHeretic said:
Well the source came from Indy didn't it? And Indy just lost to the Pats so I think source kind of does matter. It could just be some reporter who's an Indy fan looking for ways to vent.
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I'm sure the head of nfl officiating and the league investigate every time a fan reporter player or coach gets salty. Yep.
 
I'm pretty sure the NFL could say the ball was deflated accidentally/naturally/ or hell even that a colts player did it

and people would still think the Pats cheated and are covering it up.

The pats hate is very flattering
 
Wait. So a respected reporter with sources says the NFL is investigating, so the NFL decides it better investigate? Can we form two lines? Delusional people on the right, please.
 
Tawpgun said:
I'm pretty sure the NFL could say the ball was deflated accidentally/naturally/ or hell even that a colts player did it

and people would still think the Pats cheated and are covering it up.

The pats hate is very flattering
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It is. I mean, the refs touch the footballs after every play to spot the ball and stuff. You mean that none of them noticed anything during the entire game except on one occasion which they noticed and then got another ball?
 
chuckddd said:
Wait. So a respected reporter with sources says the NFL is investigating, so the NFL decides it better investigate? Can we form two lines? Delusional people on the right, please.
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Reminds me of this tweet this morning:

@ProFootballTalk
Patriots fans are outraged that people are writing and talking about something the NFL has ADMITTED it is investigating.
 
As a Los Angeles fan I should hate all things Boston (close enough), but the amount of salt levied at Brady for being a stud has me kinda pulling for them.
 
elrechazado said:
What does the source matter? It's irrelevant to whether a rule was broken or not. The nfl doesn't just investigate and humor baseless whining about the refs. See: john harbaugh crying about pats cheating after they got beat.
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Ummm... unless my memory went completely out the window, the NFL actually did address Harbaugh's complaint. They investigate the incident to make sure that the formations and substitutions fell within the rules of the game. They concluded that what the Patriots did wasn't illegal.

Now after their second playoff game, we have another ridiculous accusation and another uneventful investigation taking place. I can't wait for the post-Super Bowl drama!
 
I think it's fitting that the great Don Shula called him Belicheat recently. Delayed footballs? Yeah. That'll tarnish the record of "the greatest cold weather quarterback in history". PEACE.
 
C00kie M0nster said:
Ummm... unless my memory went completely out the window, the NFL actually did address Harbaugh's complaint. They investigate the incident to make sure that the formations and substitutions fell within the rules of the game. They concluded that what the Patriots did wasn't illegal.

Now after their second playoff game, we have another ridiculous accusation and another uneventful investigation taking place. I can't wait for the post-Super Bowl drama!
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Ummm...there is a slight difference in making the correct call on the field, flagging harbaugh in game for complaining about it, tweeting and issuing press release about the actual rules, and on the other hand actually investigating the issue of inflated balls. Is that hard to understand?
 
elrechazado said:
Ummm...there is a slight difference in making the correct call on the field, flagging harbaugh in game for complaining about it, tweeting and issuing press release about the actual rules, and on the other hand actually investigating the issue of inflated balls. Is that hard to understand?
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Pretty much the same thing in my book. They had to take a look at the video of the play from the game which is evidence in the investigation. They had to talk to the officials to determine their ruling on the field. They talked to the other necessary parties as well.

The ball was supposedly deflated. They have the video footage of the officials switching the ball out. They're going to talk to the officials from the game as well as the other necessary people as well which includes equipment managers and so forth.

What are you trying to get at here? They are both rules that are being questioned.
 
C00kie M0nster said:
Pretty much the same thing in my book. They had to take a look at the video of the play from the game which is evidence in the investigation. They had to talk to the officials to determine their ruling on the field. They talked to the other necessary parties as well.

The ball was supposedly deflated. They have the video footage of the officials switching the ball out. They're going to talk to the officials from the game as well as the other necessary people as well which includes equipment managers and so forth.

What are you trying to get at here? They are both rules that are being questioned.
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Gonna assume you're just playing with me now, but if not - the nfl regularly confirms or discusses calls on the field. Happens all the time. See: The lions Dallas game, or the dez catch. All discussing ref calls or non calls. That is not an investigation for breaking the rule like spy gate, the bounty gate, or now deflategate.

If you honestly can't understand the difference between commentary on ref's calls and a league investigation then I'm not sure I would are to continue the conversation.
 
elrechazado said:
Gonna assume you're just playing with me now, but if not - the nfl regularly confirms or discusses calls on the field. Happens all the time. See: The lions Dallas game, or the dez catch. All discussing ref calls or non calls. That is not an investigation for breaking the rule like spy gate, the bounty gate, or now deflategate.

If you honestly can't understand the difference between commentary on ref's calls and a league investigation then I'm not sure I would are to continue the conversation.
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I was just messing around only because I think the complaining about every Patriots win to the point where there needs to be an official response after the game is sad. :)
 
C00kie M0nster said:
I was just messing around only because I think the complaining about everyone Patriots win to the point where there needs to be an official response after the game is sad. :)
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Well I personally have no bias aside from my blinding jealousy, hatred, and loathing of belichek, Brady, and New England.
 
If the NFL discovers that the accusation is true, chances are that the Patriots have been doing this ever since Belichick became head coach. They should be stripped of all their Super Bowl titles.
 
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