NFL Preseason/Training Camp/Disrespect 2015 |OT2| - Second verse same as the first

By the way, the asterisks are still real. This just means there's no suspension because they didn't want 1 game, they wanted 4, and that was deemed too much for the crime
 
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We have at least 4 more years of this.
 
You of all people should know that shit data leads to shit results, no matter what you do with it.

They had no conclusive data to show anything.

There's a reason why the Wells Report was ripped apart by everybody.

If they had had anything real to show, they wouldn't have needed any of that flawed pseudoscience to make it work.

Everything you argue is based on the assumption that there were reliable measurements. There weren't, so anything beyond that is moot.

Official the Patriots were fined and punished by the league.

Every thing falls within a framework. Within the framework of the NFL they cheated the system. Multiple times.

The strange part is, when there is concrete evidence against them, it was destroyed by the NFL. When the NFL wanted evidence, it was destroyed by Brady. Point is why is all this evidence being destroyed?
 
Official the Patriots were fined and punished by the league.

Every thing falls within a framework. Within the framework of the NFL they cheated the system. Multiple times.

The strange part is, when there is concrete evidence against them, it was destroyed by the NFL. When the NFL wanted evidence, it was destroyed by Brady. Point is why is all this evidence being destroyed?

At no point has the NFL proven to be in any way reliable in this whole mess, yet your whole argument boils down to nothing more than "I trust the NFL's judgement". The same judgement that has just been slapped into another dimension by an actual court and an actual judge.
 
Official the Patriots were fined and punished by the league.

Every thing falls within a framework. Within the framework of the NFL they cheated the system. Multiple times.

The strange part is, when there is concrete evidence against them, it was destroyed by the NFL. When the NFL wanted evidence, it was destroyed by Brady. Point is why is all this evidence being destroyed?
They had all the texts though and they said they didn't need Brady's phone. Goodell even said he wouldn't punish him if he didn't give it to them.
 
Steelers defense about to get wrecked by Brady's grandma grip :(

Not many seem to remember, but Brady started out 2014 pretty slowly and only started playing well after the Chiefs crushed them 41 -14. It seems like the loss woke the Cheats up and they started dominating. I see it just as likely that the Patriots could start out poorly as it is likely they could start out hot. Tammy is certainly not infallible in his gameplay.
 
Not many seem to remember, but Brady started out 2014 pretty slowly and only started playing well after the Chiefs crushed them 41 -14.It seems like the loss woke the Cheats up they started dominating. I see it just as likely that the Patriots could start out poorly as it is likely they could start out hot. Tammy is certainly not infallible in his gameplay.

We all remember, tho.

I don't expect much.
 
Not many seem to remember, but Brady started out 2014 pretty slowly and only started playing well after the Chiefs crushed them 41 -14.It seems like the loss woke the Cheats up they started dominating. I see it just as likely that the Patriots could start out poorly as it is likely they could start out hot. Tammy is certainly not infallible in his gameplay.

Our defense made Bills' fans feel good about their QB situation.
 
At no point has the NFL proven to be in any way reliable in this whole mess, yet your whole argument boils down to nothing more than "I trust the NFL's judgement". The same judgement that has just been slapped into another dimension by an actual court and an actual judge.

They had all the texts though and they said they didn't need Brady's phone. Goodell even said he wouldn't punish him if he didn't give it to them.

You guys are missing the point, Berman states it clearly:

“The court finds that Brady had no notice that he could receive a four-game suspension for general awareness of ball deflation by others or participation in any scheme to deflate footballs, and noncooperation with the ensuing investigation,’’ Berman wrote.

“No N.F.L. policy or precedent notifies players that they may be disciplined (much less suspended) for general awareness of misconduct by others,’’ he added.
 
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