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NFL Week 12 |OT| What Are You Thankful For?
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wow that's huge
The Lions have to (impossibly) win every game to get a chance at the playoffs. And Burleson broke his leg, and Young Jr. went selfish and hopefully will be cut. Outside of Megatron is really only Broyles left. Osgood is primarily a special teams player, Thomas was picked up to be a returner...and I have no idea who Robiskie is. No time until the off season for Megatron to rest. Fortunately, Megatron practiced today, which is rare since he'd been sitting out the past few weeks.
I hope he gets a chance to play. I think he could be a decent QB.
DeaconKnowledge
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Eli has been worse than 'bad' the past few weeks.
GraveRobberX
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Oh Shit Plexi-Glass is a Steeler again, desperate times my friends, desperate times
Hooray!
Oh Shit Plexi-Glass is a Steeler again, desperate times my friends, desperate times
DeaconKnowledge
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Honestly, I wouldn't. I'd take him over Brady and his brother right now, but just barely.
Still, Squicken is overrating Alex Smith. Let's see this guy win when his defense and running game fails him.
Let's see Eli when his defense fails him. Like I said, Eli has never won a playoff game when his defense gave up more than 22 points. All I said was there was a compelling comparison between Eli and Alex's career arcs
Trying to talk sense to a meth head who also happens to be a mod is bannable.
The_Darkest_Red
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In order to fulfill my quarterly quota for "Dan Marino is the GOAT" posts I submit the following:
If Dan Marino had been on the current 49'ers or Giants during his prime he would have won at least 5 Super Bowls.
Newton Crosby
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Yeah!
What about November Rehab or did he back out of that?
I don't know, I never talk to snes anymore.
VeryGooster
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Drew Brees gives you a mission in the new Hitman:
Arbitrary cutoff point is arbitrary.
Eli has three playoff losses: 23-0, 23-20, 23-11
DeaconKnowledge
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I see what you're saying, however I still think you're being too lenient to Alex Smith. The dude only has one playoff run under his belt, and when he did he had the most dominant defense in the league AND a God tier offensive line under his belt.
I think a more favorable comparison would be Mark Sanchez. They have reverse career arcs, but under similar circumstances. Mark Sanchez looked more than servicable when he had the Jets then amazing o-line and dominant D lifting his wings.
No, he didn't. He looked like someone just good enough at the right times not to lose his job.
The Giants defense last year was giving up big play after big play. Forget the Cowboys game? Only if it wasn't for Romo overshooting Miles Austin the Giants lose. But the defense got very lucky, and the Giants offense won them the game. If it wasn't for Eli last season, that team is miserable and would be lucky to win four games. They were absolutely pathetic for a good part of the season. You're sitting here like its been the top ranked defense year in and year out, hardly the fact. Middle of the pack at best.
It's obvious Eli's improved each year he's been in the league. He's cited getting teammates he trusts more as a reason, and was able to grow as a leader of the team. With Burress, Shockey, and Barber he was unable to do that. Shockey and Burress begged for targets, and often times ran the wrong routes, and Eli would force it to them. It hindered his progress. Toomer was his best go-to WR and he was 1) slow as hell and 2) could not get much separation after YAC most of the time. When they finally got Nicks and Cruz, they were able to break open the offense for big plays and downfield throws more often.
The fact they would ever bring up pass pro as an issue for him, but continue to put in a bum like Diehl at RT really shines bright on some of their decisions.
DeaconKnowledge
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Sounds like Alex Smith to me.
But then Alex played under Mike Singletary, possibly the worst NFL coach in the past 25 years. Alex finally got competent coaching and flourished. It all goes back to a Steve Young quote that I'll paraphrase. The most important attribute for a young QB to have is landing in a good situation
Ahmad Bradshaw barely practices and doesn't have working feet, yet he starts over Andre Brown and David Wilson alike. In Wilson's position, I'd be furious. Unless Bradshaw goes down with another injury that physically prevents him from playing, the staff will keep trotting him out there, relegating Wilson to the bench and Brown to the neglected spellback role.
Yeah I definitely agree he was great last year, but it's been a long road, and he was shaky but not bad early on.
DeaconKnowledge
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What's with Giants players and not practicing?
Kave dude your team just knows how to break hearts, I even rooted for them this past weekend...
I'm thankful November is almost over and the Giants are bound to win at least one game in November...
John Hufnagel, and his two primary receivers were a detriment to his growth. As good as two those players were, half the time they hurt this team than helped it. Once they were gone it allowed him to be more elevated than he ever could have before.
re: Bradshaw
I can't get over them not using Brown more as the A2 back to Bradshaw. With his fumbles and cement feet, you have two other backs capable of sharing the workload.
re: Bradshaw
I can't get over them not using Brown more as the A2 back to Bradshaw. With his fumbles and cement feet, you have two other backs capable of sharing the workload.
HarryDemeanor
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HOU @ DET
WAS @ DAL
NE @ NYJ
TEN @ JAC
BUF @ IND
PIT @ CLE
OAK @ CIN
DEN @ KC: It's the Chiefs. The Chiefs.
SEA @ MIA
ATL @ TB
MIN @ CHI
BAL @ SD
STL @ ARI
SF @ NO
GB @ NYG
CAR @ PHI: TIE
WAS @ DAL
NE @ NYJ
TEN @ JAC
BUF @ IND
PIT @ CLE
OAK @ CIN
DEN @ KC: It's the Chiefs. The Chiefs.
SEA @ MIA
ATL @ TB
MIN @ CHI
BAL @ SD
STL @ ARI
SF @ NO
GB @ NYG
CAR @ PHI: TIE
DeaconKnowledge
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I think Eznark said it best - Kaepernick throws for 250 yards and two touchdowns and all of sudden there's a QB controversy? Even his coach thinks Smith sucks.
Nemesis121
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Giants defense ain't that great and Eli has won a good number of games.
Points per game, I hate the yards per game defensive ranking...
2012 current rank 12th giving up 21.6 points/game
2011 25th, 25points SB year..
2010 17th, 21.6
2009 30th, 26.7
2008 5th, 18.4 defending champs
2007 17th, 21.9 SB year.
2006 24th, 22.6
2005 14th 19.6
2004 Eli rookie year.. 17th 21.7
Giants defense under TC has had ONE top ten appearance, and only twice they have kept it under 20..
Points per game, I hate the yards per game defensive ranking...
2012 current rank 12th giving up 21.6 points/game
2011 25th, 25points SB year..
2010 17th, 21.6
2009 30th, 26.7
2008 5th, 18.4 defending champs
2007 17th, 21.9 SB year.
2006 24th, 22.6
2005 14th 19.6
2004 Eli rookie year.. 17th 21.7
Giants defense under TC has had ONE top ten appearance, and only twice they have kept it under 20..
The_Darkest_Red
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True, but at least they aren't still masquerading like the Seahawks.
DeaconKnowledge
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Kave_Man's used to it by now.
Veteran starters with nagging injuries are given leeway in terms of repeated limited practices or straight up DNPs but still get a full workload come Sunday.
Justin Tuck and Ahmad Bradshaw are the most habitual offenders.
Antrel Rolle's comments last December, which included a thinly veiled reference to team captain Justin Tuck, focused on guys not showing up Tuesday-Friday to work their asses off for Sunday.
storybook77
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Buctruck will make too many taco bell stops to be effective.
DeaconKnowledge
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I think Eli's problem is the same as it ever was - stupid fucking decision making. He's the one QB where you can instantly say "That ball's intercepted" just by looking at his throw.
That happens on every team though - Polamalu is constantly held out of practice.
That happens on every team though - Polamalu is constantly held out of practice.
Wait so you're saying when a team plays they don't always break your heart?
Well, this is some interesting news if I do say so myself.
Say playa you're going to win this game on Thursday. Second you included Bob in texans age oh wow
Grover Cleveland
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Ed Reed unsuspended by the NFL
Good to see that ze Goodellfuhrer came to his damn senses (or just got tired of everyone bitching)
EDIT:After reviewing the article, it looks like it was overturned on appeal by Ted Cottrell, not by a sudden change of heart by Roger Goodell.
Good to see that ze Goodellfuhrer came to his damn senses (or just got tired of everyone bitching)
EDIT:After reviewing the article, it looks like it was overturned on appeal by Ted Cottrell, not by a sudden change of heart by Roger Goodell.
DeaconKnowledge
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Some players are untouchable.
I can't speak to Polamalu, but the issue on the Giants side has been that the players on severely limited practice schedules have underperformed on Sundays (including the named two this season and last season before Week 16). It's one thing if you're holding a guy out who is still playing at a high level each weekend, but that's not been the case.
1. Pretend to care about player safety and suspend Reed
2. Overturned suspension shows appeals process legitimate and Saints are little bitches
Goodell victory
Eli's problem is that the wr's can't get open (Nicks is hurt, Bracket Cruz, offense is too complicated for Randle), and the offensive line which was fine was ruined by a coaching decision.
Ben has a better defense and you're here judging Eli based off his. Okay. Worked up over SB's is fine if its a one and done deal by the talent around him like Brad Johnson.
Add that Bennett's been hobbled.
They are having to face two deep Safety and they still can't run the ball. That is what has been the offenses downfall, which also puts them in longer 2nd and 3rd downs.
goldlion054
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We all know its been in the making for Bob
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