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[Acid08]

People are protesting outside NHLPA offices

Go toronto

Fuck yeah!

 

[CrankyJay]

Bettman enters PA offices and talks to fan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6xQ-MSIgXY&feature=youtu.be

Technology is amazing...this happened minutes/seconds ago

 

[KernelPanic]

People are protesting outside NHLPA offices

Go toronto

I'm actually rooting for Leafs fans, look what this lockout is doing to me smh

 

[Red_Man]

People are protesting outside NHLPA offices

Go toronto

There has been people protesting for like a week now, I was in Toronto last weekend and there were people protesting. Not gonna do much, but good on them.

 

[DopeyFish]

There has been people protesting for like a week now, I was in Toronto last weekend and there were people protesting. Not gonna do much, but good on them.

I just want to get it off my chest: our fan base is bizarre

 

[Smiley90]

I just want to get it off my chest: our fan base is bizarre

At least you guys don't burn down your city... Twice.

 

[Dubbedinenglish]

I'm actually rooting for Leafs fans, look what this lockout is doing to me smh

Dark times indeed.

 

[DopeyFish]

At least you guys don't burn down your city... Twice.

We haven't had the chance :-(

 

[Red_Man]

According to Mathieu Dandenault, NHLPA is presenting 4 different offers today all based around the 50-50 split. But it's Dandenault so...yea...

 

[Revenant]

I just want to get it off my chest: our fan base is bizarre

truly the shocker of the year.

 

[Marvie_3]

People are protesting outside NHLPA offices

Go toronto

Manics finally found something to do all day instead of begging for change?

 

[KernelPanic]

I just want to get it off my chest: our fan base is bizarre

waffles

 

[Stet]

Poor Sid, The Onion's absolute favourite hockey player ever.

that's fucking hilarious

 

[DopeyFish]

According to Mathieu Dandenault, NHLPA is presenting 4 different offers today all based around the 50-50 split. But it's Dandenault so...yea...

Top that off with Bettman saying "we are going to get a deal done" this presents a lot of excitement

Finally these fucks are negotiating

 

[Marvie_3]

Top that off with Bettman saying "we are going to get a deal done" this presents a lot of excitement

Finally these fucks are negotiating

What do you mean finally? You say that like they've had months and months to do this.

 

[KernelPanic]

Top that off with Bettman saying "we are going to get a deal done" this presents a lot of excitement

Finally these fucks are negotiating

Apparently all 4 offers revolve around a 50/50 split.

Sounds promising so far ....

Katie Strang ‏@KatieStrangESPN
#CBA Of the multiple (4) proposals discussed on PA"s conference call, all include gradual step-downs to 50-50.

 

[Smiley90]

I'm not sure how I'll handle hockey so suddenly, after being in lockout mode for months.

 

[BigJonsson]

Lets go down to Bay Street with some Red Bull and Waffles, the players don't get any until they reach a deal

 

[BigJonsson]

I'm not sure how I'll handle hockey so suddenly, after being in lockout mode for months.

By posting every 2 minutes rather than every 3

 

[KernelPanic]

I want NHL hockey back so bad I even miss the lame Pens photoshops in this thread :/

 

[Socreges]

So we'll get details on the NHLPA offers today... but the owners might not respond for another day or two?

 

[DopeyFish]

All 4 proposals have gradual drops to 50/50

I hope that will be enough

 

[BigJonsson]

I want NHL hockey back so bad I even miss the lame Pens photoshops in this thread :/

I just want to see how the Leafs blossom under the new skilled ownership of Bell and Rogers, with those two respected juggernauts at the helm I only see competent leadership in the future!



Wade Redden needs to go public with his desire to see AHL salary count towards the cap, I assume he wants to play in the NHL again lol

 

[KingHenrik30]

I just want to see how the Leafs blossom under the new skilled ownership of Bell and Rogers, with those two respected juggernauts at the helm I only see competent leadership in the future!



Wade Redden needs to go public with his desire to see AHL salary count towards the cap, I assume he wants to play in the NHL again lol

Redden is never playing on the rangers again. Torts won't want him there regardless of all that (which lets be honest, probably wont be in the final CBA anyways). If he wants to play in the NHL again any time soon he's either getting an amnesty buy out or he can refuse to report to camp.

 

[BigJonsson]

Redden is never playing on the rangers again. Torts won't want him there regardless of all that (which lets be honest, probably wont be in the final CBA anyways). If he wants to play in the NHL again any time soon he's either getting an amnesty buy out or he can refuse to report to camp.

Trade him with cap space

 

[KingHenrik30]

Trade him with cap space

That AHL players Counting towards to cap deal is never going down. Not everyone making over 100K+ in the AHL is a cap dump. Kris Newbury makes 300K a year, he's an AHL player. Doing this means less money for players overall.

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

That AHL players Counting towards to cap deal is never going down. Not everyone making over 100K+ in the AHL is a cap dump. Kris Newbury makes 300K a year, he's an AHL player. Doing this means less money for players overall.

Ya, but that's more an exception than anything. I wouldn't mind if it's over a certain threshold. Allowing teams with money to bury their mistakes is kind of dumb.

 

[BigJonsson]

That AHL players Counting towards to cap deal is never going down. Not everyone making over 100K+ in the AHL is a cap dump. Kris Newbury makes 300K a year, he's an AHL player. Doing this means less money for players overall.

Is Kris Newbury on a 1 or 2 year contract?


I checked, he is on a 2 way, 300k AHL, 600k NHL

 

[Kave_Man]

No deal with get done. We all know this.

 

[KernelPanic]

No deal with get done. We all know this.

It sounds like they're finally talking the same language if PA is willing to go down gradually to 50/50. They have a week to work out how gradually, there's a good chance they can get this done

The contract stuff might be trickier, I can't see the players agreeing to a 5-year limit.

 

[Cake Boss]

Iginla finally gets his center.

 

[KingHenrik30]

Ya, but that's more an exception than anything. I wouldn't mind if it's over a certain threshold. Allowing teams with money to bury their mistakes is kind of dumb.

I get what your saying, but do you think teams will more readily give out 6 million+ contracts in general if this is the case?
Overall it's just less money for players.

 

[CrankyJay]

NHL-PA meeting over. This means either league wants to study NHLPA proposals or we have a major snit.

 

[DopeyFish]

 

[Socreges]

NHL-PA meeting over. This means either league wants to study NHLPA proposals or we have a major snit.

Are you saying the meeting ended earlier than expected?

 

[CrankyJay]

@dshoalts

Just saying it's over...they've only been in there about an hour.

 

[Plinko]

NHL-PA meeting over. This means either league wants to study NHLPA proposals or we have a major snit.

Not a good sign. Only an hour?

Unless the NHL wants to take all 4 offers and analyze them by themselves, that's a terrible sign.

 

[DopeyFish]

Are you saying the meeting ended earlier than expected?

This could be just informal- NHLPA offered 3 proposals

Either they have an agreement in principle, the NHL didn't like what they are saying or they want to examine them further

 

[Kifimbo]

Three offers, so they probably need time to study them. I hope.

 

[KernelPanic]

Won't Bettman just cherry pick the best out of the 3 proposals and present that as a counter offer ?

 

[Socreges]

An hour? Yeah probably not good.

 

[Acid08]

Stop pretending like any of you know if this is a good sign or a bad sign.

Lets just wait and see what the word is, then we can fall on our swords.

 

[Socreges]

Stop pretending like any of you know if this is a good sign or a bad sign.

Lets just wait and see what the word is, then we can fall on our swords.

My pessimism guides me like a dog before an earthquake, son.

 

[Kifimbo]

Well fuck.

Bettman confirms NHLPA made three counter proposals. Says none of them "even began to approach 50-50." Not encouraged

Bettman calls it a "step backward."

 

[CrankyJay]

Bruce Garrioch ‏@SunGarrioch
Bettman says nhlpa came back made and 3 alternate proposals on player share. Didn't move from offer.

lol, these players are dumb fucks

 

[KernelPanic]

That's really not good at all.

 

[DopeyFish]

Bettman says NHLPA didn't even approach 50:50
Fuck

 

[ZeroGravity]

It's over, NHL is finished.

 

[vatstep]

Ugh, fuck the players

 

[calder]

Bettman calls it a "step backward."

"I am to say the least totally disappointed." - Bettman

Ugggghhhh.

Back to ignoring news as much as possible.