SmackCrackleNPop
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Vesey taking the path of Justin Schultz. Lol.
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NHL March 2016 |OT| It's not tanking, it's losing with style
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Something tells me the Preds top 4 isn't feeling pangs of insecurity right now. Granberg and Jackman might be, but they're professionals and would understand nothing is guaranteed to them. Likewise the rest of the team, you would hope, will carry on as normal.
Poile is saving face. Can't blame him. Pretty embarrassing for the organization.
Wouldnt surprise me to see this loophole closed sooner than later. Really screws some teams
I'm surprised they've allowed this to occur for as long as it has.
Seriously, that was a very unnecessary pause before yelling GOOD GOAL.
It was necessary. And awesome.
bonesmccoy
Banned
It's not as if this wasn't bargained and agreed to by the league in the 1st place. The club gets an extended period of control.
Sucks for the Preds to be sure, though I'm curious why, if this Vesey guy is any good at all, they didn't lock him up years ago.
I hope so. I think Demko and Boeser will sign with the Canucks either way, but it's unnerving having that loophole there.
Maybe they tried but he insisted on completing his 4 years.
ElephantShell
Banned
Hahaha oh my god his face after.
FUBAR McDangles
Member
That's exactly what happened. They tried to sign him after his sophomore year, his junior year, and now his senior year. Every time he kept telling them that he'd sign with them, but he wanted to keep going to school.
NCAA players are unable to sign and continue going to school, which is incredibly stupid. Not sure why the NHL can't sign them to some type of commitment deal without paying them and if that'd get around the stupid NCAA rules.
College players can't be pros, can't be paid like pros, but the NCAA can sure as hell make a bunch of money off of them.
Calamari41
41 > 38
I've been sitting here watching this loop for five minutes
FUBAR McDangles
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Don't CHL players get a few hundred or a few thousand dollars a season? For food and housing and all that? And they can be sponsored.
Basically, if someone gets any money at all for doing what the NCAA is getting money for, it disqualifies the player. That's why big colleges go under the table and offer houses and cars and shit to the big football players to come to their schools.
It's all ridiculous crap. The NCAA is a joke.
It's like a $50/week stipend. Basically nothing. But yeah I think they can be sponsored, but obviously only the big stars do and they don't really factor into the NCAA anyway.
The irony is the CHL faces the exact same criticisms as the NCAA for not fairly compensating its athletes.
Calamari41
41 > 38
It was a botched offside call down by one with only enough time for one more chance. They got screwed but I'll take it.
Therrien: Canadiens coach for life
ActStriker
Member
We doing playoff brackets again? Just noticed NHL set their bracket challenge site up for this year
NYR Twitter seems to be abuzz about some mystery Eric Staal press conference today. I'm not sure where the source of that information is coming from, though. At least I don't see any announcements or anything from the regular beat writers about it.
EDIT: Looks like it's coming from Blueshirt Bulletin. I mean, we are playing in Carolina on Thursday, so it makes sense that Eric would get a lot of attention, but it's only Tuesday...
EDIT EDIT: Rangers confirmed that it's to accommodate the large number of media requests from both NY and Carolina. So there's that. Mystery solved.
Also, I finally saw the full list of Masterton nominees, and goddamn, those Toronto beat writers are master trolls:
San Jose Shark James Reimer
EDIT: Looks like it's coming from Blueshirt Bulletin. I mean, we are playing in Carolina on Thursday, so it makes sense that Eric would get a lot of attention, but it's only Tuesday...
EDIT EDIT: Rangers confirmed that it's to accommodate the large number of media requests from both NY and Carolina. So there's that. Mystery solved.
Also, I finally saw the full list of Masterton nominees, and goddamn, those Toronto beat writers are master trolls:
San Jose Shark James Reimer
Unhandled Exception
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Hendricks cracks me up.
ActStriker
Member
Also, I finally saw the full list of Masterton nominees, and goddamn, those Toronto beat writers are master trolls:
San Jose Shark James Reimer
but Ryan O'Reilly tho
bonesmccoy
Banned
If that's the case, I'd have to imagine the offer was nowhere close to what Poile claims to have offered him now.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Suspended for a headshot? Nominated!
That one is truly puzzling. Something in the water up there in Buffalo.
Understatement of the year.
Unhandled Exception
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It's very Kool Aid-like.
I have a real hard time mustering up any sympathy for the Preds over Vesey. The NCAA route benefits the teams 19 times out of 20, and they had four years to sign him but didn't/couldn't. Poile sounding like a pouting teenager over it and then saying they will still try to sign him this summer is laughable.
I see some hockey ppl on twitter suggesting they should get a compensatory pick or something and even that doesn't make any sense to me. I don't even understand why some want the system changed; it's (almost) fair as it is. If a guy is drafted from CHL/Europe then the team basically gets two years to sign him or he goes back to the draft. If the players is in the NCAA then it's 4 years but they become free agents, but if a kid can reject a ELC for a couple of years and risk playing college for free more power to him.
Now if people are saying that the NCAA (and CHL) are inherently bullshit organizations exploiting teenagers for profit then I'll co-sign that shit all day long.
I see some hockey ppl on twitter suggesting they should get a compensatory pick or something and even that doesn't make any sense to me. I don't even understand why some want the system changed; it's (almost) fair as it is. If a guy is drafted from CHL/Europe then the team basically gets two years to sign him or he goes back to the draft. If the players is in the NCAA then it's 4 years but they become free agents, but if a kid can reject a ELC for a couple of years and risk playing college for free more power to him.
Now if people are saying that the NCAA (and CHL) are inherently bullshit organizations exploiting teenagers for profit then I'll co-sign that shit all day long.
Seems to be a problem to me. The NCAA situation creates a direct path to UFA for draft picks that doesn't exist for other prospects. There are enough advantages that the incentives to sign aren't felt in some cases (obviously). They can continue to develop in the college system (good for late picks and late bloomers), get their degree, and then sign with their team of choice.
Now, for anyone who thinks this is fair, and thinks the draft is a joke anyhow and there should be a market place for prospects... fine. But under the existing system you will see prospects penalized in the draft for deciding to go to college. Teams will be discouraged by the inherent risk. Things may already be trending this way, I dunno. That seems to me like something the NHL would want to address.
Freyjadour
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I don't have any great empathy for Nashville's organization, but I do have empathy for its fans. If he ends up in Chicago or something, it's more than a little irritating.
Coots finally has a breakout offensive season and he's still getting called overrated.
At least he's in good company.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-p...l-170615654.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw
At least he's in good company.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-p...l-170615654.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw
MultiJhonny
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Coots finally has a breakout offensive season and he's still getting called overrated.
At least he's in good company.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-p...l-170615654.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw
what.. overrated... I tend to associate overrated and underpaid together but Coots is anything but overpaid. He is probably underpaid
Sample of 36 people. 4% said Couturier. That is 1 or 2 people. Who gives a shit?Coots finally has a breakout offensive season and he's still getting called overrated.
At least he's in good company.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-p...l-170615654.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw
I didn't realize it was only 36 people. But how do you get 4% of the votes from 36 people? That's 1.444 votes.
Oh, it was 1 out of 28. Yeah, this was a waste of time, sorry.
http://www.torontosun.com/2016/03/28/kessel-is-most-overrated-player-in-nhl-postmedia-poll
Oh, it was 1 out of 28. Yeah, this was a waste of time, sorry.
http://www.torontosun.com/2016/03/28/kessel-is-most-overrated-player-in-nhl-postmedia-poll
anyone see that TSN report on the uncovered league office emails? pretty amazing http://www.tsn.ca/link-between-figh...ies-discussed-in-unsealed-nhl-emails-1.460651
Bettman is a cunt, basically
Bettman is a cunt, basically
I lol'd at Gary's "certain predispositions" and Fehr protected steroid users in baseball.
Also at least these guys can spell. Collie Campbell's emails looked like he had a grade 5 education
Sometimes I wonder if Jersey is even playing the same game as everyone else
before you complain, "top right is the best", fishtail shows where a team was 25 games ago, line points toward where they are now (as an average of previous two weeks)
Oooo. A new chart.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Sometimes I wonder if Jersey is even playing the same game as everyone else
before you complain, "top right is the best", fishtail shows where a team was 25 games ago, line points toward where they are now (as an average of previous two weeks)
Cool, I always wanted to be an air traffic controller.
That HNIC future lineup graphic is becoming truer every day.
bonesmccoy
Banned
Can't a non-NCAA player simply refuse to sign and then, potentially, hit UFA in the same time-frame? IE You have a guy drafted in the 6th round, he decides not to sign with the NHL team and after 2 years, is drafted again by another team. If he refuses to sign with that 2nd team, after 2 years he becomes a UFA.
A good Canadian kid would never do such a thing, look at how nicely they dress.