NieR: Automata Spoiler Thread
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DreamedLint
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Ah, ok cool. Plus, I can get my cool menu back by doing E again. One other question, is ending Y confirmed missable? I don't think I'm going to play the whole game again just to get it, so if it is missable, I'm just gonna watch it on youtube.
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
Can't imagine why it should be. The only thing to note is that if you are doing Emil's quest chain using chapter select, you need to do it sequentially. As in, to get to the first fight you need to go through multiple meetings with him in order to trigger the next stage.
So, go back to wherever you want to do. Stop Emil, and get him to tell you where he lives. Visit his home and try and collect the mask (even if you have the KI already, you need to at least try to take it). Stop him again. Get the bit about "the world going to hell in a handbasket", then go back to his home again and hack the chest in order to trigger the fight.
After beating him; "Emil's Determination" should be startable by going to the quest marker in the commercial building.
It's missable in that when fighting Emil in the desert if you don't let him self destruct you can't go back unless you reload an earlier save.
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
Ah gotcha, reached self-destruct first try for me so wasn't sure if you got Y from either ending.
So right now I'm only doing this quest in order to get the Emil gauntlets. I'm not ready to fight him. Does this mean that if I get the gauntlets and go to chapter select to level up or something that I have to start his quest line from the beginning?
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
I did it "all in one go" but as the desert fight is an actual named quest I'd imagine once its triggered it will stay active.
The first part though does require the sequence of actions I described, even if you already have the emil mask.
KO Traveling Hobo
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Don't you only get the gauntlets by killing him?
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
No, you just have to beat him. Its still pretty sad though.
Oh I thought since you have to upgrade all your weapons or something you get the gauntlets before the fight. Actually is the upgrading all weapons thing true?
DreamedLint
Member
My man, I did all of that and the second boss fight would not trigger again. He doesn't go to the commercial facility and just complains about burglary. The problem is I beat the desert version already and I can't do it again.
Drakengard is much darker and more unhinged than Automata,damn.
Watching a movie version right ,and that game has a very strange avant garde quality to it. Maybe the dated animation (unintentionally or not) and general voice direction adds so to it ,but its genuinely surreal so far.
and
This soundtrack is absolutely part of it..
Wonder if Yoko Taro can do a game like that again at some point.
Watching a movie version right ,and that game has a very strange avant garde quality to it. Maybe the dated animation (unintentionally or not) and general voice direction adds so to it ,but its genuinely surreal so far.
and
This soundtrack is absolutely part of it..
Wonder if Yoko Taro can do a game like that again at some point.
Mr. Smiley
Member
I think you're thinking of the last Emil fight. There's another, smaller, secret Emil fight at his home that gives you the gauntlet. The big Emil fight requires all max weapons.
Oooh ok cool. Can't wait to take him on then. I expect tears.
striferser
Huge Nickleback Fan
Finished ending E...
I am not ready for this feel.
i'm going to 100% the game before i offer my save. Sorry other players
I am not ready for this feel.
i'm going to 100% the game before i offer my save. Sorry other players
OniBarubary
Banned
Wish there was a way to see who you gave up your life for but I guess that would defeat the purpose of doing something selflessly lol
Radical Edward
Member
Pretty sure all our data was sacrificed for a guy i was watching on twitch earlier. He wasn't even trying to evade and must have been hit 100s of times. It stopped giving names of players and eventually started saying "Someone's Data Has Been Deleted" the chat was crying
OniBarubary
Banned
lmao What a busta
Relaxed Muscle
Member
If Automata is about the futility of war (both Machines and Androids are fighting and dying for nothing, humans and aliens are dead)
Drakengard seems to be about the insanity of war (and killing). So makes more sense to be darker, while Automata has a more melancholic feel to it.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
Finished up Emil's determination. Never even played Nier, but I still took a step back when Emil yelled "Isn't that right Kaine"
Cannon Goose
Member
I just wrapped up Ending E and now I have some questions.
1) So the tower was built by machines and the computer-y/ghost girls in the red dresses are a representation of the machines' network?
2) Is the tower launching its missle/ark part of YoRHa's "loop"?
3) How many times did 2B have to kill/reset 9S?
1) So the tower was built by machines and the computer-y/ghost girls in the red dresses are a representation of the machines' network?
2) Is the tower launching its missle/ark part of YoRHa's "loop"?
3) How many times did 2B have to kill/reset 9S?
Cannon Goose
Member
I dunno how exactly it was created, but the machines made it.
TissueBox
Member
And they got it...from the Watchhaas!! (Wmg) In truth the specifics are still not exactly known. But story-wise it's pretty much the disease of the day as far as Taro games go, meaning to portray the corrupion of goodness/purity.
I thought the virus was the backdoor that "they"(the detached voices at the end of the game) engineered to keep the cycle going ?
The machines and androids are both weak to it.
yeah,its pretty wild.
I just wonder if he can do another game like that.It might be too much for today's market.
I could've sworn the backdoor was just to let that virus in, and not the actual virus itself.
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
Didn't he say in an interview that the only reason he got away with it was because his superiors weren't paying attention, and then after it came out they were super pissed at him?
Now that Taro is much more recognizable, I wonder if it would make it impossible for him to get away with that again, or if SE would be more willing to let him go off the rails.
If there's one thing I don't like about ending D, it's how 9S potentially fucks off to space with Adam and Eve.
C's the default ending if you go straight to the credits section from chapter select, anyway.
muetimueti
Neo Member
Do you get to keep your I-sacrificed-my-save background if you play through the game again, or is it overwritten with the lunar tear background later on?
IIRC Yoko Taro confirmed that both Nier are canon
show me your skeleton
Member
just watching some drakanguard cutscenes and within the first few minutes the characters are pressing their 'hearts' together, blackbox style.
darkwing-buck
Member
Anyone know a good drakengard playthrough? Don't want to have to deal with the bad gameplay lol I'd rather watch someone else play it.
Mr. Pointy
Member
Sumio Mondo
Member
They're making a pact. As part of said pact, they lose something dear to them (Berserk style), for Caim, the main character, he loses his ability to speak, for others it's losing such things as sight, ageing and even being able to sing (yeah, I know).
Mr. Smiley
Member
I kinda just want to play Drakengard. Everything about it seems up my alley and I feel brave to tackle its gameplay. Just gotta find a copy.
M
Macapala
Unconfirmed Member
I just beat the game and was very impressed by Ending E( I'll admit it probably took me longer to realise what was going on than most people lol).
Unfortunately, I forgot to read the weapon stories for all the weapons I'd upgraded to level 4. Shit...
Man, the game is not enjoyable at all gameplay wise. It's a HUGE headache. Seriously, play at your own risk.
Unfortunately, I forgot to read the weapon stories for all the weapons I'd upgraded to level 4. Shit...
Man, the game is not enjoyable at all gameplay wise. It's a HUGE headache. Seriously, play at your own risk.
SictorVullivan
Member
Yeah you keep it.
show me your skeleton
Member
yeah it's a pretty cool idea, i just liked the common idea between this and nier: automata however many years later.
Yeah,I don't think he can.
Plus the character design is not even that marketable.Its all very grim.
I'd love another game like that.It doesn't even try to be "appealing".
For those interested,there's a movie version of Drakengard.Includes loading screen text and in game dialogue(so its not just cutscenes)
Its fascinating.Just started watching.
Sumio Mondo
Member
So is there any answers as to why Eve has the Watchers tattoo (the symbol from Drakengard 1) and turns all black like the Shadowlord in NieR and Gismor in Drakengard 2? Is it just an aesthetic choice for the villains to turn all black like that? Do the Watchers even still exist in Automata? Would have thought they didn't due to there being no more humans.
darkwing-buck
Member
muetimueti
Neo Member
Great, thanks!
Also, on the whole Drakengard thing: I kind of liked playing it, and I did so for the first time only a couple of weeks ago. I didn't enjoy it to the point to get ending E properly (I downloaded a save for that) but it was fun enough for a playthrough of all the other endings. I guess I'm a sicko or something.
Lordy, I'm still getting goosebumps when listening to this this song. Especially when in use with Pascal's mecha fight. The camera framing was perfect. The rays of light shining over Pascal's bot vs the dullness of the enemy bot.
Then, having such a simple thing as controlling Pascal (instead of A2) when running back to the hideout also made an additional impact when you open the doors and see the horrors inside. It's not just Pascal wanting to check up on the children, I wanted to as well. Best part of the game imo.
Then, having such a simple thing as controlling Pascal (instead of A2) when running back to the hideout also made an additional impact when you open the doors and see the horrors inside. It's not just Pascal wanting to check up on the children, I wanted to as well. Best part of the game imo.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
So the Terminals appearance looks like Manah from Drakengard (old men voice an all).
The machines becomes man(and machine) eaters like the giant babies in Drakengard.
The watchers symbol on Eve.
The connections are there, but so loosely explained, almost as it just to make people mad finding the connection. lol
Also what's up with those elevators with the apologetic machines? DLC?
The machines becomes man(and machine) eaters like the giant babies in Drakengard.
The watchers symbol on Eve.
The connections are there, but so loosely explained, almost as it just to make people mad finding the connection. lol
Also what's up with those elevators with the apologetic machines? DLC?
i am seriously blown away. I finished earlier and despite having a major part of the true ending spoiled through the giant bombcast (seriously, fuck that gamespot guy, I know he wanted to share the awesomeness but he didn't even really seem to understand its impact in the moment) I am still sitting here contemplating what just happened.
I'll need to give it some time to cook but I honestly think it is a new entry on my personal gaming pantheon
I'll need to give it some time to cook but I honestly think it is a new entry on my personal gaming pantheon
muetimueti
Neo Member
Yeah, seriously. I listen to the Bombcast regularly as well but luckily I was already very weary of Automata spoilers at the time and was ready to mute once they said they would be talking Nier - as soon as that guy started his sentence with something along the lines of "Not really a spoiler, but in the final ending of the game..." I turned it off immediately.
I listened to it later (after having finished the game) and he just spoils the whole of ending E without any context. "Not really a spoiler" my ass.