Walter Matthau
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Games in docked mode

I'm buying Switch 2 not for "graphical power" I'm buying the system because it has games I want to play...thats it.I my LG OLED does and I couldn't care less.
Good games, portability, word of mouth, kid friendlySo what sold 150mn Switch units then? Anti-consumer practices?
Was someone asking you to cancel your pre-orders?Pre order canceled….not
I mean I cancelled mine earlier today. I until I see something I really want later I will pick one up then. At time maybe the vrr will be sorted or another version will be around the corner. I think it's a cool device. But it's primarily going to be a Nintendo game device for me on a tv at the end of the day. I don't blame anyone jumping in now and selling it later etc. I just find myself with the majority of my playing time on a tv screen. Portable modes for my switches, Steamdecks, and ps portal don't get the screen time they deserve as is.Was someone asking you to cancel your pre-orders?
Besides the voices coming from your anus I mean?
Because otherwise, what the fuck are you even talking about? And to who?
And what if there won't be a revision with HDR?VRR is a game changer for me, especially in this day and age when everything is unoptimized slop. I'll just wait for a revision on Switch 2 where Nintendo patch it in along with better battery and more storage. And maybe OLED.
I wonder why you think the console is looking "worse" every day, if it's actually way better than many expected and it's only been confirmed over and over lolThis is the Copium the Switch 2 fans are starting to taste. As details continue on it gets worse and worse.
Needs a hardware revision on the console, so won't happen unless and until they do that. And we know they won't, until the OLED comes out, and they probably won't even do it then.It should be doable even without hdmi 2.1, Nintendo just needs to do some hacks on hdmi dock Firmware .
Ahhhh those are the reactions I was looking for. Nice job guys, another successful Nintendo defense!![]()
"The normies don't care, they just wanna turn their Nintendo system on and have fun, only nerds like you actually care about this stuff!"
This is the Nintendo fanboy's last line of defense literally every time there's a discussion about something Nintendo lacks. Come on man, don't be that guy. Just stay out of technical discussions if you're going to say stuff like that.
Pre-order not made now cancelled.
Not dismissive at all it's a fact. If you fail or indeed refuse to see this then please continue to list even more niche gaming sites.Being dismissive to fit your narrative is reality it seems.
No problem glad you are starting to see the light.Again, amazing rebuttal skills (and zero self awareness).
Cheers guy
Who the fuck are you?Was someone asking you to cancel your pre-orders?
Besides the voices coming from your anus I mean?
Because otherwise, what the fuck are you even talking about? And to who?
those things definitely not pro-consumer.Good games, portability, word of mouth, kid friendly
Out of the two it would stand to reason TV mode needs it badly too. Sure you run at slightly higher frequency but you target a much much higher native resolution.VRR in handheld mode, but not TV?
VRR is a big power drain if done in TV mode with more res?
Thats just the product. How is any of that 'pro consumer'?????those things definitely not pro-consumer.
They probably patch it in later right? I mean if the system already supports it in handheld then why it cant be in docked aswell?
so everything people don't care about enough to not buy nor to not enjoy nor to not recommend is pro-consumer?Thats just the product. How is any of that 'pro consumer'?????
VRR arguably benefits lower spec hardware just as much or more than high end so this is a dumb argument. It's a nice thing to have regardless whether it's your "secondary system" or whatever.This is rather stupid, since you lumped my personal account in (where I mentioned that I'm one of the masses who roll their eyes at massive tacky TVs in living rooms or obsession over 4k features etc) I'l respond.
Consumers that are maxxing out their TV setup for ultra cinematic gaming experiences aren't buying Nintendo for that to begin with. At all. They never were. For that, you buy a PS5 or if you're American/British maybe an XBOX.
Quite literally the "I need a console to show off my 4k TV with high framerate" crowd has zero intersection with Nintendo Switch (*as primary TV console) purchasers, with or without VRR included. People like that are only likely to buy Switch as a secondary device for nintendo franchises, and will never choose to buy any big multiplat games on it in a million years either, they'll get those on their higher-end console instead.
Nintendo is a family/toy company that uses games in those contexts, they are not a general media/movies company like Sony; they sharpened that distinction back with the Wii and have been consistent. If you're complaining about VRR, you weren't going to buy it anyway, so who cares.
double negation, so sadly I'm afraid you have to actually preorder it now, that's how it works
No it's not? OLED being choopy at 30 FPS has nothing to do with VRR. Works flawless in higher FPS with no judder.Some people will be more sensitive to it than others, but it is choppy.
Because the HDMI input in switch 2 is only HDMI 2.0Nintendo are the biggest joke in the industry. We're in the year 2025 where VRR has been the standard for YEARSSSSS and they're launching a new console without VRR in docked mode. Holy shit what an embarrassment and i don't wanna see one person defending clown crap like this.
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The screen is off the shelf. Probably had little choice but to take screen with VRR.VRR arguably benefits lower spec hardware just as much or more than high end so this is a dumb argument. It's a nice thing to have regardless whether it's your "secondary system" or whatever.
And I guess Nintendo must be dumb too, because they included a 120Hz screen with VRR + HDR and called it out during their reveal. Maybe you should write to Nintendo and tell them they wasted their money because their audience is a bunch of children and tech illiterate normies who can't wrap their heads around that stuff.
Also the whole premise of "people are going to buy it anyway so you're wrong for complaining about it" is self-evidently dumb.
But hey, thanks for being one of the few people willing to make all these retarded arguments to white-knight for their favorite corporation. This thread would've been pretty boring without it.
Again, this is a peculiar obsession on your part, that somehow you demand others must be angry about this.VRR arguably benefits lower spec hardware just as much or more than high end so this is a dumb argument. It's a nice thing to have regardless whether it's your "secondary system" or whatever.
And I guess Nintendo must be dumb too, because they included a 120Hz screen with VRR + HDR and called it out during their reveal. Maybe you should write to Nintendo and tell them they wasted their money because their audience is a bunch of children and tech illiterate normies who can't wrap their heads around that stuff.
Also the whole premise of "people are going to buy it anyway so you're wrong for complaining about it" is self-evidently dumb.
But hey, thanks for being one of the few people willing to make all these retarded arguments to white-knight for their favorite corporation. This thread would've been pretty boring without it.
I think that's what the vast majority of potential Switch customers are doing also.I'm buying Switch 2 not for "graphical power" I'm buying the system because it has games I want to play...thats it.
Thats my entire reason to buy any system.....the reason I didn't buy PS5pro because it never going to have its own game and I'm happy with my regular PS5.
Ahhhh those are the reactions I was looking for. Nice job guys, another successful Nintendo defense!![]()
It only kicks in at 48 FPS though, when realistically the demanding 3rd party Switch 2 games are going to be running at 30 or 40 FPS. Nintendo games will run at 60, but should be much better optimised, as they are built from the ground up for the hardware.PS5 VRR affects all of there games my man. It can be toggled for games that don't even have it implemented into the game itself.
What? Pro consumer is putting in the extra effort for no extra cost to the consumer if you ask me.so everything people don't care about enough to not buy nor to not enjoy nor to not recommend is pro-consumer?
so a good product isn't pro-consumer? Today years old...What? Pro consumer is putting in the extra effort for no extra cost to the consumer if you ask me.
The product itself being good isnt 'pro consumer' its just a good product
Yes, we are so so dumb for expecting Switch 2 to support VRR just because Nintendo said Switch 2 would support VRR (and does support it in handheld mode). What a crazy thing for anybody to have expected, thanks for letting us know our expectations were wrong.Again, this is a peculiar obsession on your part, that somehow you demand others must be angry about this.
Nintendo always shows off a few "look, we've bumped our tech a little" features at launch. They did that with the Wii U, and it's an obligatory step to show that they have advanced their tech a bit (Wii U announced it had HD output... in late 2012 lol, Wii never did), but those never even come close to matching the "current market" of other consoles. They haven't in decades. It's a crazy position to expect them to even be close to the other consoles at covering the bases of high-end tech; anyone who has been alive for a few years knows that they'll add a couple new features (that will be on average about 5 years old tech) and then completely ignore others.
It's so consistent that the peculiar thing is to expect otherwise. It's just not what people buy them for. I believe you that you need that feature in your case in order to make a purchase -- but I do not believe that this kind of consumer has even represented anything outside a statistical margin of error on their balance sheet.
It's okay, good even, for gaming companies to take different niches, even regarding the things like 4k/framerate/etc high end tv integration. But to pretend -- as you have been -- that people who actually do want their niche of products are some kind of defense force or in denial, is simply absurd fanaticism. Their market is not you, and their base doesn't think like you--at all.
Haven't been doing that at all -- my first post was literally just "wow I'm very different compared to this thread's tone, I don't care about this kind of feature" (or to quote the first sentence: "This kind of topic always puts me in the minority on GAF....").instead of saying "well I guess it won't hurt their sales much, so I'm going to keep my mouth shut and tell everyone else to do the same"
I wonder how Steam Deck is able to do this? Maybe it's via DisplayPort?
So like the dozen Free upgrades their releasing day one with the consoleWhat? Pro consumer is putting in the extra effort for no extra cost to the consumer if you ask me.
The product itself being good isnt 'pro consumer' its just a good product
This is why I think this is a semantics thing, it's using Freesync so probably Switch 2 will use any of those non-HDMI Forum standards while they resolve the issues with VRR, they just can't promise it would work in people's TVs and are too reluctant to "overcomplicate" communication and opt to leave it out of their messaging insteadSteam Deck does not have VRR support.
They'll use vsync as they've always done, so maybe this is a non issue anyway because that SF6 Pro player was claiming Switch 2 version has even less latency than PS5 version, so it's vsync and it's still unnoticeable in terms of latency or it's using Gsync/Freesync in a compatible TV in the eventWhat does it actually mean if let's say you have a 240hz oled. Am I really looking at potentially more flickering or screen tearing? Or is this kind of a non issue?
This is why I think this is a semantics thing, it's using Freesync so probably Switch 2 will use any of those non-HDMI Forum standards while they resolve the issues with VRR, they just can't promise it would work in people's TVs and are too reluctant to "overcomplicate" communication and opt to leave it out of their messaging instead
What does it actually mean if let's say you have a 240hz oled. Am I really looking at potentially more flickering or screen tearing? Or is this kind of a non issue?
Not according to Valve.When I say the Steam Deck does not have VRR, I mean all forms. No Freesync, no Gsync, or generic HDMI VRR.