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Someone should go back to 2020/21 and see if the same flamers today where complaining and hating when PS5 came out and didn't have VRR. Would probably be an interesting read.

Here ya go:
Ps5 no vrr?

 

[Kataploom]

Not according to Valve.

Maybe he refers to the screen itself, that's the dock, tho for the dock to have support that the device has too as well...

 

[GigaBowser]

Here ya go:
Ps5 no vrr?

only 3 pages??

 

[Mister Wolf]

Not according to Valve.

I stand corrected. So let me get this straight. The Steam Deck is the mirror of the Switch 2. It has VRR for an external screen but no VRR/Freesync/Gsync support for it's internal screen.

 

[BacklashWave534]

VRR looks like shit on an OLED, so it's no loss for me.

Maybe an eye exam is in order.

 

[CrustyBritches]

I stand corrected. So let me get this straight. The Steam Deck is the mirror of the Switch 2. It has VRR for an external screen but no VRR/Freesync/Gsync support for it's internal screen.

I believe they added support in the 3.5 update. That's why I was wondering if it's done over DisplayPort. From what I've read on Reddit Jsaux's RGB dock is the most consistent getting VRR over HDMI.

 

[RoadHazard]

Better hope none of their games have screen tearing, that shit is disgusting.

Probably just double buffered v-sync, meaning if the game drops a single frame below 60 it goes straight to 30.

 

[Mister Wolf]

Probably just double buffered v-sync, meaning if the game drops a single frame below 60 it goes straight to 30.

I'd rather have the screen tearing. Bring on Adaptive V-sync.

 

[Mr Hyde]

And what if there won't be a revision with HDR?

I´ll buy one in the future. I want a Switch 2 but right now there are a lot of factors that makes me hold out. I want Nintendo to sort out a few question marks first. VRR docked, as commented in this thread. Backwards compatibility seems a bit miffed right now with a few games not seemingly compatible. I hope for a lot of updates on old games but you never know how that pans out. I want to have more info on upgrade paths. Which ones are free and which ones cost? I also want to know how prevalent key cards will be, since I only buy physical games on Switch. Then we have battery life. More storage would be nice. Maybe wait until the price drops on these new SD cards. Switch 2 looks like a good piece of hardware but there is definitely room for improvement. And I can wait. It´s hard for me to justify the cost of a Switch 2 and accessories when I have a ROG Ally X which does everything Switch 2 does but better. I´m not interested in Mario Kart and I´ve already played all the third party games that comes out on launch. So that leaves me with Donkey Kong Bonanza and my old Switch library. The value proposition isn´t right there for me at the moment.

 

[fallingdove]

OOHOOHOOHOOHOOHOO

Not rent free. You are paying to stay top of mind with the 3+ threads you create a day, the dozen posts your create an hour and the obnoxiously infantile writing style you have adopted for this persona.

 

[PSYGN]

Preorder canceled.

 

[LordOcidax]

Another gold mine thread for the future

 

[MMaRsu]

So like the dozen Free upgrades their releasing day one with the console

isnt that normal for any gaming console?

 

[LordOcidax]

When I say the Steam Deck does not have VRR, I mean all forms. No Freesync, no Gsync, or generic HDMI VRR.

I think you have a misconception about the VRR (And 90% of the people posting in this thread), theres to many types of VRR… HDMI 2.1 is not mandatory to have VRR.

HDMI 2.0 and VRR:
HDMI 2.0 does support VRR, but it has limitations. While you might be able to get VRR at 1440p and 120Hz on some devices with HDMI 2.0.

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

Here ya go:
Ps5 no vrr?

Seems like it wasn't a big deal then, so why now I wonder? Some people in this thread being aggressive as all hell.

 

[GigaBowser]

PS5 VRR doesn't even work correctly

ONLY ONE MONTHS OLD DERSTOYED

You are paying to stay top of mind with the 3+ threads you create a day, the dozen posts your create an hour

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

isnt that normal for any gaming console?

So what you're saying is basically all game companies are anti-consumer? If so, that sound about right to me.

 

[LordOcidax]

Seems like it wasn't a big deal then, so why now I wonder? Some people in this thread being aggressive as all hell.

Did you missed the EULA thread?… For the same reason… The fun part is that is almost 100% guaranteed that the Switch 2 is going to have VRR (G-sync ->probably the best VRR) In docked mode in the future… That's why is said this thread is going to be gold.

 

[Lokaum D+]

ps5 VRR take years nothing burgers with bacons cheese frys pepsi annnnd porbably milkshack

so, cause one company made a shit move the other can do a shit move too ???

great logic

 

[playbignbox]

Is going to be G-Sync only when docked until Nintendo resolves the issue.

How can it support G-Sync if it doesn't support VRR?

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

Did you missed the EULA thread?… For the same reason… The fun part is that is almost 100% guaranteed that the Switch 2 is going to have VRR (G-sync ->probably the best VRR) In docked mode in the future… That's why is said this thread is going to be gold.

I guess I missed out on something.

 

[Lokaum D+]

How can it support G-Sync if it doesn't support VRR?

 

[LordOcidax]

How can it support G-Sync if it doesn't support VRR?

Is a complex topic, but when people said VRR these days is Forum VRR, thats an lets said a "certification" that cover all type of VRR (AMD freesync, Nvidia G-Sync, etc) via HDMI 2.1. But Nvidia G Sync doesn't necessarily needs HDMI 2.1 to work. It works over HDMI 2.0 too, but you would need a certified Nvidia G-Sync TV or Monitor to work and have some limitations i think, only works at maximum of 1440p120, thats why the Switch 2 have the 1440p120 output support. Also, Nvidia G-Sync panels have a dedicated module for VRR.

 

[LordOcidax]

 

[tr1p1ex]

I´ll buy one in the future. I want a Switch 2 but right now there are a lot of factors that makes me hold out. I want Nintendo to sort out a few question marks first. VRR docked, as commented in this thread. Backwards compatibility seems a bit miffed right now with a few games not seemingly compatible. I hope for a lot of updates on old games but you never know how that pans out. I want to have more info on upgrade paths. Which ones are free and which ones cost? I also want to know how prevalent key cards will be, since I only buy physical games on Switch. Then we have battery life. More storage would be nice. Maybe wait until the price drops on these new SD cards. Switch 2 looks like a good piece of hardware but there is definitely room for improvement. And I can wait. It´s hard for me to justify the cost of a Switch 2 and accessories when I have a ROG Ally X which does everything Switch 2 does but better. I´m not interested in Mario Kart and I´ve already played all the third party games that comes out on launch. So that leaves me with Donkey Kong Bonanza and my old Switch library. The value proposition isn´t right there for me at the moment.

Par for a console launch. The vast majority of Switch 2's won't be purchased the 1st year let alone at launch.

 

[Fahdis]

I like it. It keeps everyone on the same level. Currently I have to deal with a lot of complaining from PS5 owners who don't have VRR, so it will be nice to have everyone on the same level.

Nintendo = democracy
Sony = constitutional republic
Xbox = monarchism
Gamepass = communism
PC = chaos

What the hell did I just read. Is this what physical illness feels like after reading something like this GAF?

 

[tr1p1ex]

Is a complex topic, but when people said VRR these days is Forum VRR, thats an lets said a "certification" that cover all type of VRR (AMD freesync, Nvidia G-Sync, etc) via HDMI 2.1. But Nvidia G Sync doesn't necessarily needs HDMI 2.1 to work. It works over HDMI 2.0 too, but you would need a certified Nvidia G-Sync TV or Monitor to work and have some limitations i think, only works at maximum of 1440p120, thats why the Switch 2 have the 1440p120 output support. Also, Nvidia G-Sync panels have a dedicated module for VRR.

Real Gsync lost out in the marketplace because it was too expensive for monitor manufacturers. It morphed into a similar adaptive sync tech like Freesync for the mass market.

 

[Katatonic]

Seems like it wasn't a big deal then, so why now I wonder? Some people in this thread being aggressive as all hell.

cuz they said it was coming and it did

 

[playbignbox]

Is a complex topic, but when people said VRR these days is Forum VRR, thats an lets said a "certification" that cover all type of VRR (AMD freesync, Nvidia G-Sync, etc) via HDMI 2.1. But Nvidia G Sync doesn't necessarily needs HDMI 2.1 to work. It works over HDMI 2.0 too, but you would need a certified Nvidia G-Sync TV or Monitor to work and have some limitations i think, only works at maximum of 1440p120, thats why the Switch 2 have the 1440p120 output support. Also, Nvidia G-Sync panels have a dedicated module for VRR.

But Nintendo has officially confirmed that VRR does not work when the console is docked. This means the HDMI signal coming from the dock doesn't carry any VRR information at all. And without VRR in the signal, G-Sync Compatible cannot function either, it depends entirely on VRR being present. So I don't see how G-Sync would somehow work in the future if VRR itself isn't supported, unless you're referring to the dedicated G-Sync module, which only works over DisplayPort and is not used in TVs anyway. If you could explain it better to me I would appreciate it.

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

cuz they said it was coming and it did

And you're quite sure that isn't going to happen here?

 

[Kataploom]

isnt that normal for any gaming console?

You'd be delusional if you expect it, they're not obligated to do it

 

[Shaki12345]

Did you missed the EULA thread?… For the same reason… The fun part is that is almost 100% guaranteed that the Switch 2 is going to have VRR (G-sync ->probably the best VRR) In docked mode in the future… That's why is said this thread is going to be gold.

Source for your 100% claim?

 

[Bitstream]

Source for your 100% claim?

Yeah I dunno I'm going to go with nintendolife and their sources over random forum guy with pepe avatar

 

[Katatonic]

And you're quite sure that isn't going to happen here?

I hope it does

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

I hope it does

Well it took PS5 almost two years. That console still doesn't support Dolby Vision game mode.

 

[DaleinCalgary]

Wow, that's really weird. The opposite of what you would think.

 

[Lokaum D+]

But Nintendo has officially confirmed that VRR does not work when the console is docked. This means the HDMI signal coming from the dock doesn't carry any VRR information at all. And without VRR in the signal, G-Sync Compatible cannot function either, it depends entirely on VRR being present. So I don't see how G-Sync would somehow work in the future if VRR itself isn't supported, unless you're referring to the dedicated G-Sync module, which only works over DisplayPort and is not used in TVs anyway. If you could explain it better to me I would appreciate it.

he knows better than Nintendo

 

[tr1p1ex]

But Nintendo has officially confirmed that VRR does not work when the console is docked. This means the HDMI signal coming from the dock doesn't carry any VRR information at all. And without VRR in the signal, G-Sync Compatible cannot function either, it depends entirely on VRR being present. So I don't see how G-Sync would somehow work in the future if VRR itself isn't supported, unless you're referring to the dedicated G-Sync module, which only works over DisplayPort and is not used in TVs anyway. If you could explain it better to me I would appreciate it.

Yes it doesn't work. No it wasn't confirmed it will never work. (See PS5 launch vs PS5 today.) Hope that helps.

 

[MikeM]

So the Switch 2 is retarded. Great…

 

[CityHunter1981]

I think they underestimated how hard it is to implement VRR for other compatible tvs. It's not an easy feature to implement, because it also took Sony some time.

I think it will come at a later time via patch, but Nintendo just don't want to guarantee it yet.

 

[TKOFromTokyo]

Definitely disappointing, not convinced Nintendo will implement this through an update like Sony. I will mostly limit my purchases to 1st party, retro, and indie games. I'll play more demanding games on my PS5 Pro. This news doesn't change what I was planning to buy.

 

[BlackTron]

We got a live one here boys !

Listen guy, I tried to play nice at first but, like others in here, you seem to have absolutely zero self awareness.

" I am not defending anything" - immediately proceeds to defend something which is indefensible with the excuse "lol you nerds in your forum bubble/no one else gives a fook lol" and the always petty, passive-aggressive and holier than thou "lol I feel sorry for you" shite - amazing rebuttal skills my man, thing is, you're contradicting yourself since by posting/participating in this discussion, you also belong in said "bubble", can't have it both ways.

You've been spouting the same dismissive and snarky shite for 4-5 posts now, now, if you don't get it, you can either exit the Convo or, stop trying to gaslight us all.

Get a load of this guy with his snarky and petty shit, besides , "those who live in glass houses..." you know the rest.

Now go put some laughing reaction emojis, I'm sure it'll make you feel better.

I agree. This dude and I are on the "same side" as Nintendo fans but he auto generates his takes based on whether it's a good look for Big N which is just endlessly insufferable. He's not even consistent with himself, just completely context sensitive. Kinda guy that makes Nintendo fans look like rabid sheep.

 

[Mozza]

His argument is that nintendo shouldn't do anything pro-comsumer or anything that benefits gamers because some people might not care. He has no ground to stand on and yet he continues to post triggered reactions and laughing reactions at everyone in this thread for calling nintendo out. It's clown crap truthfully.

That is not my argument at all. All this pro and anti consumer nonsense is pure hyperbole. All videogame companies are there to make money and they are not your friends. I would have no issues with Nintendo adding VRR support to the Switch at launch or later on as an update. My point is that outside of core hobby gamers nobody cares or even knows waht VRR is in the first place. Or that this subject is even being discussed/reported on niche videogame sites and forums. I am pretty sure you understand this so are just upset that not everybody is outraged by all this.

 

[MMaRsu]

You'd be delusional if you expect it, they're not obligated to do it

Delusional for expecting firmware patches?

 

[Panajev2001a]

Delusional for expecting firmware patches?

Well, the standard is so low it looks like one of those hard party games you are meant to be trying to dance your way below it.

VRR is both used as a reason to be happy it is there in handheld mode (ok…) but for the faithful not having it in TV mode must be something you keep the disappointment only on the inside or convince yourself it is good because… because that much more expensive console launching in mid 2025 went for an HDMI 2.0 chip (lol) and does not have VRR figured out for the dock to TV link (as for the USB-C to HDMI, how you chose how to design the console, the docking mechanism, and support for your features is up to you Nintendo…) and that is good because… hey reasons…

 

[Panajev2001a]

That is not my argument at all. All this pro and anti consumer nonsense is pure hyperbole. All videogame companies are there to make money and they are not your friends. I would have no issues with Nintendo adding VRR support to the Switch at launch or later on as an update. My point is that outside of core hobby gamers nobody cares or even knows waht VRR is in the first place. Or that this subject is even being discussed/reported on niche videogame sites and forums. I am pretty sure you understand this so are just upset that not everybody is outraged by all this.

Not only they cheapened out with their HDMI implementation and the dock, they have also not said anything that would really show commitment to figure out VRR in docked mode so it may likely never be figured out.

Best chance is when they sell us a revision like the OLED model or something (again fixing a problem of their own making with a product by selling you a nee product… and is it supposed to be good? Get the feeling Nintendo could send thugs at your door and people would thank them for helping them meet new people while on their way to the hospital…)

 

[MMaRsu]

Well, the standard is so low it looks like one of those hard party games you are meant to be trying to dance your way below it.

VRR is both used as a reason to be happy it is there in handheld mode (ok…) but for the faithful not having it in TV mode must be something you keep the disappointment only on the inside or convince yourself it is good because… because that much more expensive console launching in mid 2025 went for an HDMI 2.0 chip (lol) and does not have VRR figured out for the dock to TV link (as for the USB-C to HDMI, how you chose how to design the console, the docking mechanism, and support for your features is up to you Nintendo…) and that is good because… hey reasons…

I think according to some folks around here, Nintendo is being pro consumer by even selling you this device in and itself .

Wow thank you Nintendo, we love you so much, please have my firstborn

 

[Kataploom]

Delusional for expecting firmware patches?

I'm talking about free game updates, if they can't fix VRR at least I hope they give us Gsync and Freesync.

 

[Mozza]

Not only they cheapened out with their HDMI implementation and the dock, they have also not said anything that would really show commitment to figure out VRR in docked mode so it may likely never be figured out.

Best chance is when they sell us a revision like the OLED model or something (again fixing a problem of their own making with a product by selling you a nee product… and is it supposed to be good? Get the feeling Nintendo could send thugs at your door and people would thank them for helping them meet new people while on their way to the hospital…)

I am not sure if you are not actually reading my posts or failing to understand them. I have never stated Nintendo are right or wrong not to offer VRR on the Switch 2. And of course It would be a benefit if they did. My point is outside of the core nobody cares or knows. This seems to upset some on here for some reason or another. I am guessing the fact his storm in a teacup on here and niche internet sites will have very little impact on the Switch 2's sales is the real reason for this. They simply want some sort of mass consumer outrage over all this which I will tell you simply won't happen.

Not so sure why pointing these simple facts out makes me some sort of Nintendo fanboy.

 

[Akuji]

Expected with that USB-C (or whatever) they use for output.

Handheld > docked confirmed.

My 5 year old Laptop can use alternate dp Mode with 4K 120hz vrr. With a usb c to DisplayPort cable. So the Connector can do it just Fine.