Nintendo confirms - No VRR for Switch 2 in TV mode

This is pretty dumb but it might be something Nintendo couldn't work out for launch

Hopefully they get VRR implemented for TV output at some point during the Switch 2's lifespan
 
Expecting nintendo to add a quality of life feature is just too much. This is the same company who made a garbage smartphone App just so you could use voice chat on your original switch after all. Come on man there's no defending this and you know it.


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VRR, Freesync both are shit for the poors.

Nvidia hardware Gsync is still the beast, laucnhed in 2013 and nobody caught them now.
At least nintendo got some Nvidia love in them.

 
Again, this is a peculiar obsession on your part, that somehow you demand others must be angry about this.

Nintendo always shows off a few "look, we've bumped our tech a little" features at launch. They did that with the Wii U, and it's an obligatory step to show that they have advanced their tech a bit (Wii U announced it had HD output... in late 2012 lol, Wii never did), but those never even come close to matching the "current market" of other consoles. They haven't in decades. It's a crazy position to expect them to even be close to the other consoles at covering the bases of high-end tech; anyone who has been alive for a few years knows that they'll add a couple new features (that will be on average about 5 years old tech) and then completely ignore others.

It's so consistent that the peculiar thing is to expect otherwise. It's just not what people buy them for. I believe you that you need that feature in your case in order to make a purchase -- but I do not believe that this kind of consumer has even represented anything outside a statistical margin of error on their balance sheet.

It's okay, good even, for gaming companies to take different niches, even regarding the things like 4k/framerate/etc high end tv integration. But to pretend -- as you have been -- that people who actually do want their niche of products are some kind of defense force or in denial, is simply absurd fanaticism. Their market is not you, and their base doesn't think like you--at all.

The problem is that everybody and their dog has a "massive 4k tacky TV" now. You sound like someone annoyed at giant, cumbersome expensive 90s CRT televisions of 36" while you are all set with a tiny 80s set that has a handle. I mean, that's fine, judge away, but the world has moved on. At some point consoles came packed with composite cables instead of RF for a reason "but it's about fun no one cares" be damned.

Features shouldn't be included just because someone will buy it anyway. They should be included simply not to withhold the customer from contemporary features, like a frigging composite cable. At least that could be upgraded for ten bucks, whereas VRR is just gone forever until and unless they solve it, if possible on a hardware level at all.

On Switch 1, Nintendo's best games look like dogshit on the type of TV almost everybody owns now. That is simply a bad problem for them to be solved no matter how you look at it, and they know it. That's why they flirted with Switch Pro before covid. Getting it to a level of bare minimum because people will just buy it anyway isn't exactly a compelling argument.
 
No this is the reality, not a "line of defense". He's perfectly right, and unfortunately so, I would add.
I'm the last tech-expert person here so no idea if it's some thing where Nintendo cheapened out, or what is the reason for this, but it's completely right to call them out for it on forums such as this one.

It doesn't change anything about what he said which is completely true, most people don't even know what VRR even is and don't even care.
People are wrong thinking I do not want VRR on the Switch 2 or are defending Nintendo for not including it. My point is in the wider scheme of things this is of zero importance to the vast majority of consumers that will buy a Switch 2. As they are simply not graphic and frame rate obsessives.
 
The problem is that everybody and their dog has a "massive 4k tacky TV" now. You sound like someone annoyed at giant, cumbersome expensive 90s CRT televisions of 36" while you are all set with a tiny 80s set that has a handle. I mean, that's fine, judge away, but the world has moved on. At some point consoles came packed with composite cables instead of RF for a reason "but it's about fun no one cares" be damned.

Features shouldn't be included just because someone will buy it anyway. They should be included simply not to withhold the customer from contemporary features, like a frigging composite cable. At least that could be upgraded for ten bucks, whereas VRR is just gone forever until and unless they solve it, if possible on a hardware level at all.

On Switch 1, Nintendo's best games look like dogshit on the type of TV almost everybody owns now. That is simply a bad problem for them to be solved no matter how you look at it, and they know it. That's why they flirted with Switch Pro before covid. Getting it to a level of bare minimum because people will just buy it anyway isn't exactly a compelling argument.
An awful lot of conjecture on your part here. I own an LG C Series OLED TV and my current Switch console looks awesome on it as does my Series X. My sister has just bought a brand new LG C Series 55 inch model and again the Switch looks awesome on that too. She is the very opposite of a core gamer but has pre-ordered a Switch 2 and this is why she has bought a new T.V. There is so much assumption that goes on here. It's basically I think this is massively important and so should everyone else. Just like suggesting the original Switch looks bad on all new T.V's. It's subjective personal opinions at best.

The takes on here sometimes............... just wow !!
 
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Seeing Nintendo fanbois defending this, I believe Nintendo could manufacture red boxes with "Nintendo" on it, invite all the Kyoto and Tokyo homeless people to take a dump in the box (for a very small fee) and ship it to everyone who purchased a Switch 2, and that thing would still be sold out everywhere. And The Legend of Zelda: Smell of the Streets would still get that GOTY award as a seal of innovation and creativity.
 
An awful lot of conjecture on your part here. I own an LG C Series OLED TV and my current Switch console looks awesome on it as does my Series X. My sister has just bought a brand new LG C Series 55 inch model and again the Switch looks awesome on that too. She is the very opposite of a core gamer but has pre-ordered a Switch 2 and this is why she has bought a new T.V. There is so much assumption that goes on here. It's basically I think this is massively important and so should everyone else. Just like suggesting the original Switch looks bad on all new T.V's. It's subjective personal opinions at best.

The takes on here sometimes........... Just wow !!

I didn't say that the Switch looks bad on all new TVs, you said that. Look again at my post.

I said that the Switch's best games, meaning Zelda, look like ass on the type of TV most people absolutely have in their living room now, which is some 55" thing from Walmart.

Utterly nothing I said was presumptive. Unless saying "most people have TVs with composite inputs that would benefit from cables in the box" was some sort of radical assumption in 1996.
 
Seeing Nintendo fanbois defending this, I believe Nintendo could manufacture red boxes with "Nintendo" on it, invite all the Kyoto and Tokyo homeless people to take a dump in the box (for a very small fee) and ship it to everyone who purchased a Switch 2, and that thing would still be sold out everywhere. And The Legend of Zelda: Smell of the Streets would still get that GOTY award as a seal of innovation and creativity.
Why any of this if true should worry you is a mystery. ;)
 
I didn't say that the Switch looks bad on all new TVs, you said that. Look again at my post.

I said that the Switch's best games, meaning Zelda, look like ass on the type of TV most people absolutely have in their living room now, which is some 55" thing from Walmart.

Utterly nothing I said was presumptive. Unless saying "most people have TVs with composite inputs that would benefit from cables in the box" was some sort of radical assumption in 1996.
I have just bought a second hand copy of BOTW preparing for the Switch 2 upgrade. And have been playing it quite a bit. The game looks pretty sweet on my LG OLED and I can't wait for the upgrade. I think a lot of this stems from simply getting the settings right on your T.V. And for the uninitiated it's not a simple task. There are so many features which when enabled harm the overall picture quality. I guess this stems from my passion for home cinema. And you are correct not everybody has the best T.V in their living room etc... But I am guessing if people do not bother which T.V they buy then VRR will be the last of their concerns.

 
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I have just bought a second hand copy of BOTW preparing for the Switch 2 upgrade. And have been playing it quite a bit. The game looks pretty sweet on my LG OLED and I can't wait for the upgrade. I think a lot of this stems from simply getting the setting right on your T.V. And for the uninitiated it's not a simple task. There are so many features which when enabled harm the overall picture quality. I guess this stems from my passion for home cinema. And you are correct not everybody has the best T.V in their living room etc... But I am guessing if people do not bother which T.V they buy then VRR will be the last of their concerns.

I said that the Switch's best games, meaning Zelda, look like ass on the type of TV most people absolutely have in their living room now, which is some 55" thing from Walmart.

You autogenerate a new strawman attack or disingenuous runaround every time someone says anything that in any way shape form context space or time could be seen as a jab at Nintendo.

I have no idea what the relevance of your link is but I know it is not your setup because you have an LG C1.

It's obvious that the size of your C1 is nowhere near the size most peoples' cheap TVs are because if it was you would have scrambled at the opportunity to tell me that Zelda looks great on it at that size. Instead you hit me with utterly useless redundant information. My guess is that your C1 is in the 40-45ish range which is exactly the size I have said myself Zelda's resolution completely craters if you exceed it. Vast swaths of people get 55-65" TVs from Walmart and then Nintendo has a conflict that their AAA games just break in the average living room. This is a direct counter to R-Contrarian asserting no one gives a crap about Nintendo performance because we prioritize fun only. Please.

Ironically with the C1 you would be in the camp to take advantage of VRR, which according to Nintendo makes a difference because it's on the handheld which is about to train all the people who allegedly don't care on why they should.
 
You autogenerate a new strawman attack or disingenuous runaround every time someone says anything that in any way shape form context space or time could be seen as a jab at Nintendo.

I have no idea what the relevance of your link is but I know it is not your setup because you have an LG C1.

It's obvious that the size of your C1 is nowhere near the size most peoples' cheap TVs are because if it was you would have scrambled at the opportunity to tell me that Zelda looks great on it at that size. Instead you hit me with utterly useless redundant information. My guess is that your C1 is in the 40-45ish range which is exactly the size I have said myself Zelda's resolution completely craters if you exceed it. Vast swaths of people get 55-65" TVs from Walmart and then Nintendo has a conflict that their AAA games just break in the average living room. This is a direct counter to R-Contrarian asserting no one gives a crap about Nintendo performance because we prioritize fun only. Please.

Ironically with the C1 you would be in the camp to take advantage of VRR, which according to Nintendo makes a difference because it's on the handheld which is about to train all the people who allegedly don't care on why they should.
It is my set up and it's in a dedicated building to the rear of my property. My LG TV is in my living room and is 48 inches. Not sure why you feel I am defending Nintendo here I am just stating I do not personally agree with your one size fits all assumptions. And like I have stated many times the masses simply do not care about any of this.
 
It is my set up and it's in a dedicated building to the rear of my property. My LG TV is in my living room and is 48 inches. Not sure why you feel I am defending Nintendo here I am just stating I do not personally agree with your one size fits all assumptions. And like I have stated many times the masses simply do not care about any of this.

Yes, your TV is 1 inch away from the old 1080 set that I kept for the express purpose of playing Switch games.

TOTK looks like utterly unplayable dog shit on all my friends and families TVs and we all just laugh at it. Half of them are into Nintendo as well, believe me they care.

Project more.
 
Yes, your TV is 1 inch away from the old 1080 set that I kept for the express purpose of playing Switch games.

TOTK looks like utterly unplayable dog shit on all my friends and families TVs and we all just laugh at it. Half of them are into Nintendo as well, believe me they care.

Project more.
You must all have so much fun. But far too small of a sample size to make any real judgement. But please feel free to post more anecdotal rubbish lol.
 
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Hopefully they will add it in a future update.

I have a TV capable of VRR but never use it, because Sony made it bad it so hard, that the picture looks much worse and greyish (XH90)
 
It's a mess to release a console in 2025 without VRR support.

It was a mess to release a console without vrr support in 2020.

I hope Nintendo get this sorted ASAP as I do completely agree with you.

I think the messaging has been shit on this from them too.

Huge fan and can't wait for the switch 2 but this is a poor do!
 
Some people will be more sensitive to it than others, but it is choppy.
Its called not setting things correctly.

OLEDs have issues with VRR when there is rapid framerate fluctuations. When that happens on my PC, I adjust the settings to get a more consistent framerate and all is usually good.
 
Honestly my beef with nintendo is the fact they used to be more pro consumer then they used to be. Now they just put two middle fingers in the air and try nickle and diming consumers over every little thing to the point that it's insane. The biggest one to me that happened a couple of years ago is when they lauched the 3D mario all-stars collection on switch only for a limited time and then stopped selling it both physically and on the nintendo e-shop loll.


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I have one still wrapped sitting on my shelf. 🤑
 
I hope they figure out a way to implement it eventually. I've used my Switch in handheld mode a total of three times since launch.


Steam Deck figured out how to get docked VRR by providing a firmware update for their dock as they also use the same method (USBC -> HDMI) to transmit from handheld to TV/Monitor.

I'm not sure if Switch 2's dock has any kind of firmware inside of it though. Nintendo could always, at a later date, announce and release a VRR capable dock for Switch 2 owners to upgrade to...but I wouldn't expect that anytime soon.

Edit: Apparently the Switch OLED dock has updateable firmware inside of it. So, there's a good chance Switch 2's dock will also have firmware as well..
 
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Steam Deck figured out how to get docked VRR by providing a firmware update for their dock as they also use the same method (USBC -> HDMI) to transmit from handheld to TV/Monitor.

I'm not sure if Switch 2's dock has any kind of firmware inside of it though. Nintendo could always, at a later date, announce and release a VRR capable dock for Switch 2 owners to upgrade to...but I wouldn't expect that anytime soon.

Edit: Apparently the Switch OLED dock has updateable firmware inside of it. So, there's a good chance Switch 2's dock will also have firmware as well..
Yes, even the Switch dock can be upgraded.
 
People are wrong thinking I do not want VRR on the Switch 2 or are defending Nintendo for not including it. My point is in the wider scheme of things this is of zero importance to the vast majority of consumers that will buy a Switch 2. As they are simply not graphic and frame rate obsessives.
This is a reasonable enough take. And I would agree with you that for the majority of Nintendo customers, something like VRR isn't a priority. Neither is playing something like Cyberpunk or Hogwarts Legacy with the highest fidelity at the highest frames per second. They are here for the house of Mario.

That said, I do think Nintendo and Nintendo fanboys have shot themselves in the foot by framing the Switch 2 as this ultra powerful device that will stand toe to toe with the PS5 and Series X. It won't. And something like VRR missing from the equation is only going to expand the divide in comparison videos when DF and everyone else highlight that 3rd party games show Switch 2 keeping up on the resolution side of things (due to DLSS) but running with a choppy/low frame rate in docked.

But until this thing launches we will continue to see the moronic comparison threads between S2 and Series/PS5, we will continue to see the threads about how S2 going to be the lead development console, but ultimately the device was always going to be a gen behind because it's a hybrid.
 
This is a reasonable enough take. And I would agree with you that for the majority of Nintendo customers, something like VRR isn't a priority. Neither is playing something like Cyberpunk or Hogwarts Legacy with the highest fidelity at the highest frames per second. They are here for the house of Mario.

That said, I do think Nintendo and Nintendo fanboys have shot themselves in the foot by framing the Switch 2 as this ultra powerful device that will stand toe to toe with the PS5 and Series X. It won't. And something like VRR missing from the equation is only going to expand the divide in comparison videos when DF and everyone else highlight that 3rd party games show Switch 2 keeping up on the resolution side of things (due to DLSS) but running with a choppy/low frame rate in docked.

But until this thing launches we will continue to see the moronic comparison threads between S2 and Series/PS5, we will continue to see the threads about how S2 going to be the lead development console, but ultimately the device was always going to be a gen behind because it's a hybrid.
Like you say this is way to early to make any judgements. And who knows what Nintendo will do further down the line with VRR. I am not so sure anybody was ever suggesting PS5/Series X performance. I was just wanting a nice leap from the original Switch that this is. I think there are a lot on her determined to downplay the Switch 2's specs as well as the other way round. If the DLSS can do a lot of the heavy lifting then the framerates might be fine. We will have to wait to see. I certainly have no worries with Nintendo's first party output. Let's see how the third parties get along.
 
Seeing Nintendo fanbois defending this, I believe Nintendo could manufacture red boxes with "Nintendo" on it, invite all the Kyoto and Tokyo homeless people to take a dump in the box (for a very small fee) and ship it to everyone who purchased a Switch 2, and that thing would still be sold out everywhere. And The Legend of Zelda: Smell of the Streets would still get that GOTY award as a seal of innovation and creativity.
I can't believe anybody was actually dumb enough to think Switch 2 would be a modern HD game console. Anybody who has paid any attention to Nintendo for the last 20 years should know that Switch 2 would be some junkie's big heroin shit in a box. If you were expecting otherwise, you were never the target audience to begin with.

You nerds with your 107 inch 4K TVs are a tiny minority and your opinion doesn't matter. Yon people represent nothing but a rounding error on Nintendo's balance sheet.

I for one think it's beautiful that different companies fill different niches in the gaming world. Nintendo's niche is homeless feces. Sounds like that's not your niche, and that's OK.
 

Steam Deck figured out how to get docked VRR by providing a firmware update for their dock as they also use the same method (USBC -> HDMI) to transmit from handheld to TV/Monitor.

I'm not sure if Switch 2's dock has any kind of firmware inside of it though. Nintendo could always, at a later date, announce and release a VRR capable dock for Switch 2 owners to upgrade to...but I wouldn't expect that anytime soon.

Edit: Apparently the Switch OLED dock has updateable firmware inside of it. So, there's a good chance Switch 2's dock will also have firmware as well..

it's all about if their HDMI converter chip can support this.

most cheap display port to HDMI converters can't...
 
I can't believe anybody was actually dumb enough to think Switch 2 would be a modern HD game console. Anybody who has paid any attention to Nintendo for the last 20 years should know that Switch 2 would be some junkie's big heroin shit in a box. If you were expecting otherwise, you were never the target audience to begin with.

You nerds with your 107 inch 4K TVs are a tiny minority and your opinion doesn't matter. Yon people represent nothing but a rounding error on Nintendo's balance sheet.

I for one think it's beautiful that different companies fill different niches in the gaming world. Nintendo's niche is homeless feces. Sounds like that's not your niche, and that's OK.
Almost every Nintendo fan in this forum expected PS4 (Handheld) to PS4 Pro when docked (Series S at best) kind of performance for the Switch 2, an that's what we are going to get… So, Nintendo fans expectations were always in check… The ones dragging the PS5 into the conversation are the Switch 2 haters + DF saying that the Switch 2 docked performance is going to be on par with PS4 not the Pro. PS4 performance is expected for handheld mode. (Tom Sawyer and Sweethtoot expected PS3 kind of performance… RIP for both)
 
The ones dragging the PS5 into the conversation are the Switch 2 haters + DF saying that the Switch 2 docked performance is going to be on par with PS4 not the Pro. PS4 performance is expected for handheld mode. (Tom Sawyer and Sweethtoot expected PS3 kind of performance… RIP for both)

Then why is it I'm seeing Switch 2 vs PS5 comparison videos posted here? Those are not being posted by "Switch 2 haters" and they ain't coming from DF.
 
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Such a fucked up way Sony handled this TV. It wasn't enough to make me swear off of the brand but no way I buy a TV from them based on future features.

Speaking of future features, I have not seen anything from Nintendo to indicate that VRR is going to be added to docked mode in the future. I would not count on it. If I decide to get a Switch 2, having VRR will not play any role in making that decision. VRR is a nice feature, and I do believe it was an oversight by Nintendo to not include it in docked mode, but hardly the feature that will make or break the console (IMO).
 
Such a fucked up way Sony handled this TV. It wasn't enough to make me swear off of the brand but no way I buy a TV from them based on future features.

Speaking of future features, I have not seen anything from Nintendo to indicate that VRR is going to be added to docked mode in the future. I would not count on it. If I decide to get a Switch 2, having VRR will not play any role in making that decision. VRR is a nice feature, and I do believe it was an oversight by Nintendo to not include it in docked mode, but hardly the feature that will make or break the console (IMO).
How dare you suggest that on here. The lack of VRR will spell the end of Nintendo and the Switch 2, just wait and see. ;)
 
It isn't. The issue is pretending it is "Switch 2 haters" are the ones "dragging the PS5 into the conversation" when it is you.
Lol…Im not the one who made those videos 🤣. I make all kind of threads related to Switch 2, even comparison with Series S and non comparisons videos… If you don't like the results of the Switch 2 compared to PS5 that's not my problem 🤷‍♂️.
 
It isn't. The issue is pretending "Switch 2 haters" are the ones "dragging the PS5 into the conversation" when it is you.
Yes because they would never ever do that lol. A case of six of one half a dozen of the other here I feel.
 
Yes because they would never ever do that lol. A case of six of one half a dozen of the other here I feel.
Is fun when i read Switch 2 haters saying that Nintendo fans were expecting PS5 kind of performance here on Neogaf… And that never happened… 🤣
 
Lol…Im not the one who made those videos 🤣. I make all kind of threads related to Switch 2, even comparison with Series S and non comparisons videos… If you don't like the results of the Switch 2 compared to PS5 that's not my problem 🤷‍♂️.

Never said I had a problem with the threads at all, now did I? You simply shouldn't be pointing fingers at others for doing what you do.

Yes because they would never ever do that lol.

That's not the point.
 
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Never said I had a problem with the threads at all, now did I? You simply shouldn't be pointing fingers at others for doing what you do.



That's not the point.
It's totally the point. Those videos were pure bait and we all know it. The haters were always going to be out in force.
 
Never said I had a problem with the threads at all, now did I? You simply shouldn't be pointing fingers at others for doing what you do.
Again, i am not the one making those videos…I make a thread about EVERYTHING related to Switch 2… And looks like some of those videos hurts some feelings. That's not my fault… When i read "LOL 30 fps vs 60fps on PS5"… I meant.. Thats what we expected since the specs leaks.
 
Again, i am not the one making those videos…I make a thread about EVERYTHING related to Switch 2… And looks like some of those videos hurts some feelings. That's not my fault… When i read "LOL 30 fps vs 60fps on PS5"… I meant.. Thats what we expected since the specs leaks.

That's all fine, just stop pretending PS5 is only being brought up by "Switch 2 haters". Factually not true.
 
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That's all fine, just stop pretending PS5 is only being brought up by "Switch 2 haters". Factually not true.
Cant wait to read some comments here when DF makes those comparisons against the PS5… 😉 … We go from.. Lol, the Switch 2 is not going to be capable of run Cyberpunk to Lol doesn't look like the PS5 version… Trash of overpriced console… So indeed, they are Switch 2 haters.
 
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