Nintendo E3 plans detailed

Rah rah Switch doesn't get third party support

Switch gets third party support

Rah rah bunch of ports

giphy.gif
 
So basically a bunch of ports, some of last-gen games 5+ years old that won't be updated, some niche exclusives, and 1-2 major releases? I don't see how this is a grand slam. Obviously the Switch also being a handheld helps with some of this as many of these games can be played portably, but it still pales in comparison to the lineup of the PS4 and even the Xbox One, and I think only Nintendo getting back on the multi-platform release train is going to fix that. Sure you'll get die-hard Nintendo fans, hardcore gamers, and kids, but the average guy who only cares about the yearly Madden and CoD releases is not going to find much to love here.

This argument ain't about casuals. It's about you. FIFA and 2K are on there, most casuals would see plenty.

Year one isn't for super casual folks anyway, it's for core gamers and Nintendo's is solid even if it IS a little small.
 
Rah rah Switch doesn't get third party support

Switch gets third party support

Rah rah bunch of ports

giphy.gif

Maybe the tone would be different it it were modern ports instead of near full priced versions of Street Fighter 2, Cave Story and god knows how many other super old leftovers.
 
How long before the fake leaks begin?
Need to see those top secret "Spotlight documents", I want to see what title they give a Metorid game. Unless they are lazy and say Metorid Prime 4
 
You say this as if every console in the past, oh, 10 years has somehow been chock-full of hard-hitting exclusives during the launch and first year.

Not that I care to get into list wars, but a first year lineup of:

Zelda breath of the wild(who cares if its a port, its the definitive version)
Mario Kart 8( port, but better than ever)
Super Mario Odyssey( major exclusive)
Splatoon 2 ( major exclusive)
ARMS(new IP exclusive)
Fire Emblem Warriors( new exclusive)
Xenoblade Chronicles 2 ( new exclusive)

Just removing the '5 year old ports' from the question, I look forward to you sharing the details of the superior launch/first year lineups for Ps3,Ps4, Xbox 360,3ds, Wii, and Wii U. And that's just what we know is supposed to come this year. We don't know what Nintendo is announcing at E3. So yes, I stand by my earlier comment that you took exception to: I would put the Switch's lineup for 2017, based on available info, against any console in the last decade.

The only first 12 months that come close would be the Wii. That had

Wii Sports
Red Steel
Rayman Raving Rabbids
Twilight Princess
Wii Play (Free Wiimote!!!)
Super Paper Mario
Mario Party 8
Resident Evil 4
Mario Strikers Charged
Metroid Prime 3
Donkey Kong Barrel Blast
Zack & Wiki
Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn
Super Mario Galaxy

They aren't all great hits, but no one can doubt how much variety came with the first twelve months of the Wii.
 
Little Mons†er;236911947 said:
I was referring more to a new IP, let their creative juices come true. That would be the ultimate test for the studio, they've been doing some else's IP for ages so it would be nice for them to start fresh

Sometimes constraints can breed creativity better than a blank slate can. Something as old as StarTropics could be an incredibly interesting challenge from a creativity perspective since there's really nothing that resembles that type of game today.

That's how Metroid Prime was born- take a old-school 2D style of gameplay and creatively translate that to a 3D world. That type of challenge can be more rewarding than making a new IP from scratch.
 
the only thing i know for sure is that nintendo will disappoint us once again.
Bound to happen if you expect something they don't show or if you latch on to predictions.

I'll be honest E3 Zelda surprised me. Way more positive then I thought it would be, since I thought New Zelda direction would turn a lot of people off.

This one can't disappoint me, All I want is Mario Odyssey
 
The only first 12 months that come close would be the Wii. That had

Wii Sports
Red Steel
Rayman Raving Rabbids
Twilight Princess
Wii Play (Free Wiimote!!!)
Super Paper Mario
Mario Party 8
Resident Evil 4
Mario Strikers Charged
Metroid Prime 3
Donkey Kong Barrel Blast
Zack & Wiki
Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn
Super Mario Galaxy

They aren't all great hits, but no one can doubt how much variety came with the first twelve months of the Wii.

That's a fair list, won't say whether its better/worse than Switch because tastes are subjective, but I don't know how anyone can argue that the Ps3 and Ps4, for example, had more notable games at launch/first year.
 
Today in Things I Learned:

Xenoblade 2's character designer is a hentai artist.

Echii. Googled that shit, I'm not seeing any hentai.

Anyway, his art is great. In X, they didn't always make a perfectly successful transition to 3D models, but the character designs in that game are largely competent enough.

and that's coming from someone who hates X.
 
The only first 12 months that come close would be the Wii. That had

Wii Sports
Red Steel
Rayman Raving Rabbids

Twilight Princess
Wii Play (Free Wiimote!!!)
Super Paper Mario
Mario Party 8
Resident Evil 4
Mario Strikers Charged
Metroid Prime 3
Donkey Kong Barrel Blast
Zack & Wiki
Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn
Super Mario Galaxy

They aren't all great hits, but no one can doubt how much variety came with the first twelve months of the Wii.

Excite Truck
Warioware
Virtual Console still being a novel concept with some games actually being completely new to Western audiences
Battalion Wars 2

Switch is still looking to be way behind right now tbh. Even more so when you consider the weight of a project like Metroid Prime for enthusiast gamers.
 
Excite Truck
Warioware
Virtual Console still being a novel concept with some games being localised for the first time officially
Battalion Wars 2

Switch is way behind right now tbh. Even more so when you consider the weight of a project like Metroid Prime for enthusiast gamers.

I completely forgot to mention the virtual console. That was revolutionary for it's time. And as for Metroid, I love the game but did it even break two million in sales? Splatoon 2 and probably ARMS will beat it.
 
I completely forgot to mention the virtual console. That was revolutionary for it's time. And as for Metroid, I love the game but did it even break two million in sales? Splatoon 2 and probably ARMS will beat it.
Unfortunately no, Neither Prime 3 or the Trilogy collection did over 2 million
 
The only first 12 months that come close would be the Wii. That had

Wii Sports
Red Steel
Rayman Raving Rabbids
Twilight Princess
Wii Play (Free Wiimote!!!)
Super Paper Mario
Mario Party 8
Resident Evil 4
Mario Strikers Charged
Metroid Prime 3
Donkey Kong Barrel Blast
Zack & Wiki
Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn
Super Mario Galaxy

They aren't all great hits, but no one can doubt how much variety came with the first twelve months of the Wii.

Missing:

Excite Truck
Trauma Center
Sonic
Big Brain Academy
Pokemon Battle Revolution
Battalion Wars 2

And other meaningful 1st/3rd party titles, all while simultaneously supporting the DS. I was expecting Wii level volume on the Switch and so far that's not happening. Which is really sad when they abandoned the WiiU years ago, and the 3DS has been on life support for quite a while. Even worse is that this is supposed to be their single platform going forward, besides mobile of course. Hopefully the amount of releases picks up.
 
That Wii list is really good (like really damn good), but please remember he said that's the first 12 months. We still don't have the whole schedule release for the first 9 months for Switch (all of 2017), then 3 more months in 2018. Who knows what will make it by March 2018.

I look forward to comparing the Wii's first year with the Nintendo Switches first year in 2018.
 
Missing:

Excite Truck
Trauma Center
Sonic
Big Brain Academy
Pokemon Battle Revolution
Battalion Wars 2

And other meaningful 1st/3rd party titles, all while simultaneously supporting the DS. I was expecting Wii level volume on the Switch and so far that's not happening. Which is really sad when they abandoned the WiiU years ago, and the 3DS has been on life support for quite a while. Even worse is that this is supposed to be their single platform going forward, besides mobile of course. Hopefully the amount of releases picks up.

It was insane when the final Switch reveal was just another WiiU-tier showing. Two platforms in one, yet Nintendo barely offers a fraction of what their previous consoles managed to provide. Let's not even start with what GCN had in its first year, which puts Switch into an even bigger shame. And just like on WiiU, I have to wonder what kind of fan could consider these modern Nintendo lineups adequate. The "best" answers you'd get are "But the PS4 launch wasn't better". Yeah, so what, I'm comparing Nintendo consoles.
Even when 3DS started weak, there at least have already been made much more significant announcements from both 1st- and 3rd parties that just needed a little bit more time. While on Switch it's hard to believe they'd manage to do a complete 180 at E3, when the machine's previous presentations already felt like Nintendo's scratching the bottom of the barrel.
 
The only first 12 months that come close would be the Wii. That had

Wii Sports
Red Steel
Rayman Raving Rabbids
Twilight Princess
Wii Play (Free Wiimote!!!)
Super Paper Mario
Mario Party 8
Resident Evil 4
Mario Strikers Charged
Metroid Prime 3
Donkey Kong Barrel Blast
Zack & Wiki
Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn
Super Mario Galaxy

They aren't all great hits, but no one can doubt how much variety came with the first twelve months of the Wii.
It's also worth noting that Switch's "first year" isn't even its first year. It's the first 9 months.
It hasn't even had a single e3 yet either. I feel that the Switch line up should surpass that Wii one if at least half of the rumored titles (Metroid, Rabbids, Smash, Pokemon) are true and stuff like XC2 doesn't get delayed too far past year 1
It was insane when the final Switch reveal was just another WiiU-tier showing. Two platforms in one, yet Nintendo barely offers a fraction of what their previous consoles managed to provide. Let's not even start with what GCN had in its first year, which puts Switch into an even bigger shame. And just like on WiiU, I have to wonder what kind of fan could consider these modern Nintendo lineups adequate. The "best" answers you'd get are "But the PS4 launch wasn't better". Yeah, so what, I'm comparing Nintendo consoles here.
Even when 3DS started weak, there at least have already been made much more significant announcements from both 1st- and 3rd parties that just needed a little bit more time. While on Switch it's hard to believe they'd manage to do a complete 180 at E3, when the machine's previous presentations already felt like Nintendo's scratching the bottom of the barrel.
3DS launched with its biggest game being an old SF4 port where the background didn't animate. There was nothing of note till a Zelda remaster 3 months later. They announced a bunch but we didn't get almost any of it for years.
Wii U's first party drought was from November till March and we only got Lego City and a couple ports.
Seems a bit silly to get upset or to think it's inferior in any way.
 
Missing:

Excite Truck
Trauma Center
Sonic
Big Brain Academy
Pokemon Battle Revolution
Battalion Wars 2

And other meaningful 1st/3rd party titles, all while simultaneously supporting the DS. I was expecting Wii level volume on the Switch and so far that's not happening. Which is really sad when they abandoned the WiiU years ago, and the 3DS has been on life support for quite a while. Even worse is that this is supposed to be their single platform going forward, besides mobile of course. Hopefully the amount of releases picks up.

Wii Sports/Splatoon 2
Twilight Princess/BotW
Red Steel/Smash 4
Super Paper Mario/Rabbids RPG
Mario Party 8/ARMS
Resident Evil 4/Mario Kart 8 D
Metroid Prime 3/Xenoblade Chronicles 2
Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn/Fire Emblem Warriors
Super Mario Galaxy/Super Mario Odyssey
Trauma Center/Bomberman R
Sonic/Sonic Forces
Mario Strikers Charged/Fifa 18
Zack & Wiki/Sonic Mania
Pokemon Battle Revolution/Ultra Street Fighter II
Wii Play (Free Wiimote!!!)/Snipper Clips
Excite Truck/Fast RMX
Rayman Raving Rabbids/1-2 Switch
Battalion Wars 2/Steamworld Dig 2
Big Brain Academy
Donkey Kong Barrel Blast


If we're just lining up games that are similar in scope I think It matches up pretty well so far. You can substitute the dozens of quality switch indie games for the last 2 low budget games on the list (some of which have metacritics of like 50 so not sure why they should even be included) and the virtual console for that matter. Not that we know it's not coming this year. It probably will. And that's just what we know of so far (or in a few cases, pretty sure of). A lot of those games then are basically equal to digital only titles today. In fact, lining them up I'd say Switch is better already in it's first 9 months, of what we know of, than Wii's first year. That's before barely touching indie games.

Switch bonus of unknown date (first year possible or likely) or port: Tales, SMT, DQ, Rayman Legends, Minecraft, NBA 2k18, Disgaea 5, RotTK 13 and many many more. So......what?

And this is before it's first E3!
 
3DS launched with its biggest game being an old SF4 port where the background didn't animate.There was nothing of note till a Zelda remaster 3 months later.

So 3 generations ahead of what Capcom brings to the Switch, heh. Plus we all knew that an exclusive Resident Evil would be coming right from the beginning. I.e. a thing that seems unthinkable for current Nintendo. 3DS launched too early, but the support you'd expect on a Nintendo handheld was already guaranteed for the near future. While on Switch the best "new" things they could show from 3rd parties were a Suda concept that hasn't started development yet, a SMT game that merely started development and Nagoshi saying he might develop something (or not).

Wii U's first party drought was from November till March and we only got Lego City and a couple ports.
Seems a bit silly to get upset or to think it's inferior in any way.

The Switch lineup looking as bad as the WiiU is the point.
 
So 3 generations ahead of what Capcom brings to the Switch, heh. Plus we all knew that an exclusive Resident Evil would be coming right from the beginning. I.e. a thing that seems unthinkable for current Nintendo. 3DS launched too early, but the support you'd expect on a Nintendo handheld was already guaranteed for the near future. While on Switch the best "new" things they could show from 3rd parties were a Suda concept that hasn't started development yet, a SMT game that merely started development and Nagoshi saying he might develop something (or not).
no, Capcom being dumb with their launch plans doesn't mean 3DS's launch was better. SF43D was the biggest 3DS launch title, the biggest title on the platform for months. Unless you're implying an old port of SF4 is superior than BOTW.
The Switch lineup looking as bad as the WiiU is the point
I know this is your shtick, but come on. lol
 
So 3 generations ahead of what Capcom brings to the Switch, heh. Plus we all knew that an exclusive Resident Evil would be coming right from the beginning. I.e. a thing that seems unthinkable for current Nintendo. 3DS launched too early, but the support you'd expect on a Nintendo handheld was already guaranteed for the near future. While on Switch the best "new" things they could show from 3rd parties were a Suda concept that hasn't started development yet, a SMT game that merely started development and Nagoshi saying he might develop something (or not).



The Switch lineup looking as bad as the WiiU is the point.

Bro the amount of reaching is hilarious.
 
Regardless of any potential derailment, it's interesting to me that a lot of people in this thread seem to think we know basically the entire 2017 lineup. When has Nintendo ever showed an entire year's lineup by January? We should definitely be expecting plenty of new 2017 announcements, even if some are smaller projects.

And that should be on top of things we "know" about like Mario x Rabbids.
 
Regardless of any potential derailment, it's interesting to me that a lot of people in this thread seem to think we know basically the entire 2017 lineup. When has Nintendo ever showed an entire year's lineup by January? We should definitely be expecting plenty of new 2017 announcements, even if some are smaller projects.

And that should be on top of things we "know" about like Mario x Rabbids.
I'm not sure about "plenty more". The schedule seems fairly full and they have plenty to talk about with upcoming announced titles.
June: ARMS
July: Splatoon 2
August: Rabbids Kingdom Battle
September: FE Warriors
October: ???
November: Mario Odyssey
December: Xenoblade Chronicles 2

Not sure if they'd be to willing to release multiple titles in a month, though if Stars happens it could be in October or November. I think e3 will be pretty good, though, even if there's not a ton new
 
Regardless of any potential derailment, it's interesting to me that a lot of people in this thread seem to think we know basically the entire 2017 lineup. When has Nintendo ever showed an entire year's lineup by January? We should definitely be expecting plenty of new 2017 announcements, even if some are smaller projects.

And that should be on top of things we "know" about like Mario x Rabbids.

I don't think we know the lineup. I just have a hard time seeing much "big" that is announced.

If Xenoblade and Mario make holiday, as the latter surely will, that is hardcore single player quotient (and with Mario, expanded audience quotient).

In a year that already will have had Zelda, Splatoon, Kart, Arms, etc....I really doubt we're going to have a 2017 holiday surprise that'll really rock our world.

Perhaps we'll get both the rumored Stars and Smash. Those are huge games. And they would be somewhat of a surprise, I guess, but they are pretty heavily rumored.

I expect most things for 2017 that they announce will be smaller projects and those won't take up much mindshare or appeal to many of us here.

It'd be crazy, good crazy, mind you, if, say, Retro's game was holiday 2017. Or there was a Metroid 2017. Or if we were getting DQ Switch/3DS, this year, in the west.
 
I'm not sure about "plenty more". The schedule seems fairly full and they have plenty to talk about with upcoming announced titles.
June: ARMS
July: Splatoon 2
August: Rabbids Kingdom Battle
September: FE Warriors
October: ???
November: Mario Odyssey
December: Xenoblade Chronicles 2

Not sure if they'd be to willing to release multiple titles in a month, though if Stars happens it could be in October or November. I think e3 will be pretty good, though, even if there's not a ton new

Nintendo has doubled up on releases in the fall/winter period before. Including releasing new Mario and Zelda games on the same day. It's reasonable to expect at least 2-3 more titles will round out the rest of this year. And they'll likely talk about/show a couple things for early next year.

The easy guesses are of course Pokemon Stars, Smash Bros Deluxe, and Pikmin 4 since they've already been rumoured. Probably some smaller eshop titles and virtual console stuff too.
 
Top Bottom