Midnight Believer
Member
NX is probably the code name for Annex: to attach, append, or add, especially to something larger or more important.
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Retromelon
Member
Thats a lot of gamecubes. I would like to test your theory but i don't have enough duct tape and only 1 gamecubeWell since 2 Gamecubes = 1 Wii
and 2 Wiis = 1 Wii U
Wouldn't it be like 16 gamecubes duct taped together to get 1 NX?
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Pretty sure people disliked 2the power of cloud" because it was blatantly obvious FUD, to make up for the fact the XB1 had weaker performance than PS4, and Microsoft attributed complete far out and misleading facts to sell this idea.
If Microsoft was honest and treated it as cool potential but nothing concrete their wouldn't even be a quarter of the dislike attached to it
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
Well since 2 Gamecubes = 1 Wii
and 2 Wiis = 1 Wii U
Wouldn't it be like 16 gamecubes duct taped together to get 1 NX?
only 12 are taped together
the other 4 are portable
so are you actually going to make a thread with that title
or should I
It stands for Xtra Xperiences via Xternal Xccelerators.
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
I think it stands for Name placeXolder
Jackbooted
Member
The power of the cloud!*
* now being said un-ironically.
* now being said un-ironically.
Pokemaniac
Member
This is less about swapping individual parts and more about distributing boxes that the console and handheld can ask to do stuff for them. It's essentially like if you could buy a Microsoft Azure node and stick it in your house.
Orniletter
Banned
His post doesn't make any sense.
MS used the "power of the cloud"-PR (or tried to) to bluff their way through the objective fact, that the PS4 is the more powerful system.
The whole online only DRM is completely unrelated to the cloud-meme.
Edit: Exactly what Principate said.
Schnozberry
Member
Nintendo would be risking a lot by exceeding the cost of PS4 and XB1. If the home console is a booster device for the handheld, I would guess a bundle including both wouldn't exceed the price of existing consoles. At most it would have to be within $50.
Schnozberry
Member
Nobody hated on cloud computing as a technology principle. People weren't sure how server based cloud computing would do anything to improve the local rendering of games, which was the PR from Microsoft at the time that they have since backed away from. The truth is it doesn't. Having your own cloud node could potentially do that, especially if the device has CPU/GPU resources and the ability to offload less time sensitive computing tasks to network resources.
Yeah that too.
Orniletter
Banned
Yep, people saw through MS' weak attempt to deflect the issue.
The potential for this sounds amazing. I wonder if NERD is involved.
The hip-hop phenomenon?
I'm of the opinion that this is a "McDonald!" patent that won't see the light of day or it is some-kind of streetpass/social thing. I hope I'm wrong though.
If Ninty and DeNa successfully roll out distributed cloud assisted processing based on selling optional hardware to people that supercharges processing power and connectivity somehow, then they will have achieved something remarkable.
If Ninty and DeNa successfully roll out distributed cloud assisted processing based on selling optional hardware to people that supercharges processing power and connectivity somehow, then they will have achieved something remarkable.
geordiemp
Member
I dont see how it does. The whole issue with cloud computing for my understanding is that your ping can still be 16 ms even locally.
In that time the game has ran a complete cycle, done all its CPU and GPU stuff and output a frame.
The only use I understand is for complex CPU computations like collapsing buildings (funnily enough...MS demo was ....), I just cannot see how it will be used to make game consoles more powerful at playing games other than the usual power of da cloud baseless claims.
Mind blown, the power glove kid is a child molester. Got to hate those real life plot twists.
NERD.
They were an independent tech house called Mobiclip and Nintendo bought them out (and changed their name, of course)
http://www.nerd.nintendo.com/
Here's an Iwata Asks about the company: http://www.nintendo.co.uk/Iwata-Asks/Iwata-Asks-NERD/NERD/1-Introduction/1-Introduction-759158.html
Schnozberry
Member
The only way it could possibly work is if it wasn't optional. The only way it works as an optional device is if the handheld device doesn't require it to function but can use it for additional resources while they are connected together. Otherwise adding a cloud processor to your existing standalone console becomes a dubious value proposition for most consumers, especially Nintendo's traditional market of families.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
The patent doesn't discuss anything beyond P2P. The rest is logical conclusion. You ping for the closes supplement, and if one (or multiple) happens to live on your provider's network you naturally make use of those, as they are likely the lowest latency supplements in the whole wide world (from your POV).
Orniletter
Banned
Hey, whatever gets Nintendo's cloud system off the ground !
Nintendo European Research Department
Pokemaniac
Member
What the patent describes is basically a cloud node that can be directly connected to the console and can be shared with other users in a P2P fashion when not in use.
So long as there is a sufficient install base, there should always be available nodes that are relatively nearby.
Data caps could throw a monkey wrench into that, but, at that point, you're probably better off buying your own box anyway.
Polioliolio
Member
Well... so much for fun.
To be fair, all I know about the cloud is that it was a bogus marketing term which no doubt helped to fail the Xbox JUAN
To be fair, all I know about the cloud is that it was a bogus marketing term which no doubt helped to fail the Xbox JUAN
Schnozberry
Member
I thought NERD was mostly focused on SDK/Middleware stuff. Their wheelhouse was mostly in Video Codecs prior to being acquired by Nintendo. I guess they would make the most sense, but I have to imagine Nintendo partnered with someone as well.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
I'm glad I never have to deal with data caps. (well almost never)
You can literally "Be a part of something amazing"
I actually kinda forgot about these guys. There's a lot of loose cogs coming together now in the background it seems.
I remember hearing a while back that they were experimenting with some sort of cloud technology, so this might be related.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Iwata specifically mentioned cloud stating the tech was very limited as it's biggest usage was latency. Makes sense that they patent a form of cloud computing that try to do it's absolute best to minimise latency.
Someone else could have their hand in this as well, yeah, but for a long time the scuttlebutt's been that NERD was working on some kind of top secret cloud technology so the timing is right. No one from NERD is talking, though.
Schnozberry
Member
It was from an Iwata Asks in 2013 from NOE that had the NERD President Alexandre Dellatre in it.
“The developers at Nintendo headquarters need to spend their time developing the actual platform, so I think we’d like to explore areas that they don’t have time for. For example the possibilities which are opened up by the combination of cloud technologies and new software paradigms like general purpose GPU programming.”
The puzzle pieces seem to fit, here. I'm really interested in seeing exactly what this is.
Trevelyan9999
Banned
How exactly do you guys think the NX handheld will use the extra processing power away from home? Paid service for when they are out of range of a Supplemental Computing Device?
Well, from the cloud itself, ain't it obvious
Orniletter
Banned
Well, there is this:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=59495429
Edit:
Heh, the thread is based on the excerpt you quoted above.
presagetogood
Member
MS has shown what cloud computing can do in it's infant stages with Crackdown, and to a lesser extent with games like Forza, Halo, and Titan fall. Crackdown computing effort dwarfs even powerful pc architectures. They have more to show, and need more developers to get on the bandwagon before it's actually a reality that meets the premise of the vision. Crackdown will be the first example of the promise being met.
Yet you all refuse to believe it. And when MS does it, it's deflection. Even though they never specifically said cloud computing would produce results immediately and dwarf ps4 power; they simply stated that it was a revolutionary power component for the future of the system and a feature worth considering.
When Nintendo does it, it's AMAZING!!!
I would consider MS cloud services if they gave me the option of hosting my own. I'm a very big fan of local cloud solutions. Looks like someone didn't read the OT.
Schnozberry
Member
Microsoft's Azure Platform is very good at what it does. The physics stuff in crackdown looks really cool, but that's about the only proof of concept they have for it to have any real effect in a gaming context. Maybe Nintendo has some better ideas? I hope they do.
If you buy the supplemental computing device.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Sorry, Fourth, just saw you post.
A standard universal bus is apt for the local supplement, but keep in mind the supplements can be separated from you via a network. Those remote ones will not be able to provide you with the BW or latency the local one can. So I'm thinking asymmetric scenarios here, based on whether a local supplement is present or not. Also, in this line of though, it could be an entirely proprietary link to the local one.
If you don't own one it requires a connection to function since you will "borrow" someone elses computing that is not in use correct? I wonder what happens if there are no devices available for sharing.