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[Arsic]

So I reinstalled smash on switch 2, but unfortunately it got launched without downloading the old cloud save with all the characters unlocked. No way to download that data because of course at Nintendo once you play a game they delete the old data, oh and they charge for cloud saving too. Genius stuff.

No biggie I'll unlock them all in 1-2 hours with the 1 stock suicide, close out all rush strat.

What's that? Oh at some point they got rid of this. The game now tracks Inputs and you need a bazillion button presses before it will give you the privilege to unlock an anew character. Then have a 10 minute cool down and of course the requirement for another billion button presses to feel you're worth unlocking a new character.

How can one company blatantly be so fucking oblivious, so anti consumer, so retarded and keep on trucking along?

Fuck Nintendo.

/end rant

 

[TintoConCasera]

I think you should complain about the cloud save sync sucking ass instead of whatever exploit they fixed in SSB.

In any case, my condolences man. It sure sucks when that shit happens.

 

[Banjo64]

Not being funny but not sure what you mean.

I've never had an issue with cloud saves, if my console has a different save file it usually lets me override it wi nth the cloud save in settings.

 

[Arsic]

Not being funny but not sure what you mean.

I've never had an issue with cloud saves, if my console has a different save file it usually lets me override it wi nth the cloud save in settings.

I went to download from cloud, it only has the one I made today.

How am I doing it wrong?

My guess? I had smash on release on switch when I believe at that time Nintendo didn't charge for cloud saves? During the time I didn't play it, that cloud save isn't backed up by Nintendo cuz I didn't pay for Nintendo online or whatever. So I assume it's erased.

 

[reinking]

The cloud save issue what made my daughter swear off of Nintendo when she lost her Animal Crossing save after sending her Switch-Lite into Nintendo for repair. People take that stuff serious.

 

[Arsic]

I think you should complain about the cloud save sync sucking ass instead of whatever exploit they fixed in SSB.

In any case, my condolences man. It sure sucks when that shit happens.

To be fair this "exploit" existed for what, 5+ years? Why secretly change it?

Do you know the nightmare it would be to run a smash ultimate tournament and you need access to all characters but they need to all be unlocked?

There is no benefit to a consumer for this.

 

[Banjo64]

I went to download from cloud, it only has the one I made today.

How am I doing it wrong?

My guess? I had smash on release on switch when I believe at that time Nintendo didn't charge for cloud saves? During the time I didn't play it, that cloud save isn't backed up by Nintendo cuz I didn't pay for Nintendo online or whatever. So I assume it's erased.

Sorry man - that sucks.

Takes the piss that certain games don't let you use cloud saves as well when it's a paid service to begin with.

 

[Success]

As long as Sakurai is in charge of Smash, the game will never grow modern functionality.

Sakurai is too old skool and these unlock requirements show that.

 

[Dacvak]

Wait, you have to unlock characters in smash? I could have sworn they all came unlocked. I guess not.

 

[TintoConCasera]

To be fair this "exploit" existed for what, 5+ years? Why secretly change it?

Do you know the nightmare it would be to run a smash ultimate tournament and you need access to all characters but they need to all be unlocked?

There is no benefit to a consumer for this.

I think it's fine, unlockable characters are fine and part of the progression of the game. Back then I loved unlocking nee dudes in SSB Melee, wondering who and when would come next.

Again, sorry for your loss but imho the only thing wrong here is the shitty cloud save sync they seem to have, not the game

 

[Dacvak]

Okay but let's be real, there absolutely should be an "unlock all" cheat code at this point.

I can't tell you how many shitty Melee tourneys I've been to where some of the characters and stages were still locked away. Super annoying.

 

[Arsic]

I think it's fine, unlockable characters are fine and part of the progression of the game. Back then I loved unlocking nee dudes in SSB Melee, wondering who and when would come next.

Again, sorry for your loss but imho the only thing wrong here is the shitty cloud save sync they seem to have, not the game

See Dacvak post. This is no longer a need for this in this game. It's an abhorrent yesteryear design that was phased out long ago by games and fighters due to player feedback.

This game in particular gains nothing from this especially now in what, year 7?

Development ended. If a player wants to unlock them all ever 50+ hours of wasted time then go for it, but there should be an unlock all cheat available. Especially for tournament organizers.

 

[poodaddy]

Damn bro!

I mean, I completely agree with everything you said across the board, I'm just impressed at the absolute rage on display here.

You have my sword.

 

[Kataploom]

I went to download from cloud, it only has the one I made today.

How am I doing it wrong?

My guess? I had smash on release on switch when I believe at that time Nintendo didn't charge for cloud saves? During the time I didn't play it, that cloud save isn't backed up by Nintendo cuz I didn't pay for Nintendo online or whatever. So I assume it's erased.

Oh yes, they stated that the cloud save could be erased after a year of not paying a subs, sorry vs l buddy, that's what it is, unfortunately they just don't give a shit

 

[DR3AM]

ninteno gets a free pass

 

[Codes 208]

I think you should complain about the cloud save sync sucking ass instead of whatever exploit they fixed in SSB.

In any case, my condolences man. It sure sucks when that shit happens.

This. Cloud saves generally arent automatic, whenever i transfer to a new switch from scratch i always go through the games and manually redownload the saves before starting. (Though my switch 2 did download the saves automatically soooo…idk)

Im also curious OP, do you have the nintendo online or had it prior to getting the switch 2? 'Cause having that is required to create a cloud save to begin with (thats the only reason why i could see how an old save isnt showing up)

Edit: ah. Played prior to the subs. Yeah unfortunately when they get changed to being part of NSO it became a 'premium' feature

 

[K' Dash]

Shouldnt every save be there if you did a transfer?

 

[Arsic]

Damn bro!

I mean, I completely agree with everything you said across the board, I'm just impressed at the absolute rage on display here.

You have my sword.

Unfortunately for me in my life I can't complain about my work frustrations at work and I don't bring that home, can't complain about home issues anywhere, so the only moments I can mald in rage and act like a baboon is over games on GAF.

I need this.

 

[MSduderino]

I feel for you, dog. That cloudsync shit is wacked and got me worried myself. Also as time goes by, games should make things easier to unlock, not harder. Weird they changed that.

 

[Deerock71]

 

[iHaunter]

The cloud save issue what made my daughter swear off of Nintendo when she lost her Animal Crossing save after sending her Switch-Lite into Nintendo for repair. People take that stuff serious.

And those morons keep ONE version. No way of rolling back.

 

[digital_ghost]

I agree with you man. It fucking sucks when i try to smash and I can't feel shit.

#NumbPenisLife

 

[Robb]

My guess? I had smash on release on switch when I believe at that time Nintendo didn't charge for cloud saves? During the time I didn't play it, that cloud save isn't backed up by Nintendo cuz I didn't pay for Nintendo online or whatever. So I assume it's erased.

Online was free On Switch (1) up to September 2018 iirc, with a 7-day trial for new users, so they pretty much timed it with Smash Bros. which released in December that same year. I don't think there were any cloud saves available before the service launched.

But even if you were subscribed at some point all of your cloud data gets erased within 180 days of your subscription expiring. So unless you re-subscribed within that period it's all gone and needs to be re-uploaded.

 

[ハトリス]

So, as usual, the problem sits in front of the device.

 

[AREYOUOKAY?]

I too lost a save from a transfer mistake. However I didn't curse Nintendo out for it since it was my fault.

It's no big deal in the end since mods have made regular Ultimate boring and obsolete.

 

[tr1p1ex]

You have to pay attention. Because you can accidentally erase data even with ongoing cloud sub and backup. I think I accidentally deleted my MK8 data upon transfer to switch 2. I was given a choice to keep this or that version and I mindlessly clicked something and voila, disappeared I made it. But luckily didn't lose anything I cared about. I barely played MK on Switch. I think I was looking at conflicts of data in the settings or something at the time.

Maybe they should send most saves to a recently deleted trash can in case you want to retrieve it after making a mistake.

 

[Generic]

Imagine having to unlock characters in a fighting game in 2025.