Nintendo Switch 2 Preorders Delayed (US) Due To Tariffs, Release Date Still June 5
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Rentahamster
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Doesn't seem like it. The depression isn't referenced directly in that post. I think the implication is that the first two times we tried this, it didn't work out so well. Third time's a charm....?
Azelover
Titanic was called the Ship of Dreams, and it was. It really was.
It's the biggest market, but there is a lot of money to be made globally. Nintendo will continue to own the Japanese market for example. They will continue to be profitable. Even with limited business from the US.
I know it sounds like the end of the world, but it really isn't. All along the years we have had countries with a limited legal gaming markets.
Poppinfresh
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I'm much more irritated by the change in pre-order date than I am about a potential price increase.
I remember when virtually all pre-orders just required a deposit and not the full price of the console, so I'm not sure why Nintendo and retailers couldn't go that route, while making it VERY clear that the final price may be more than $450. Consumers can always opt to cancel their pre-orders if the price ends up being too high.
Beyond that, I have to question the logic in Nintendo announcing a price and pre-order date in the US less than 24 hours before the tariffs were going to be announced. I mean, they knew they were coming.
I don't see this happening, but I do see a scenario where pre-orders are pushed back until 1 - 2 weeks before release if the tariff situation isn't stable by then.
I remember when virtually all pre-orders just required a deposit and not the full price of the console, so I'm not sure why Nintendo and retailers couldn't go that route, while making it VERY clear that the final price may be more than $450. Consumers can always opt to cancel their pre-orders if the price ends up being too high.
Beyond that, I have to question the logic in Nintendo announcing a price and pre-order date in the US less than 24 hours before the tariffs were going to be announced. I mean, they knew they were coming.
I don't see this happening, but I do see a scenario where pre-orders are pushed back until 1 - 2 weeks before release if the tariff situation isn't stable by then.
GHG
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Smoot-Hawley made things worse. The great depression didn't end until WW2.
This time we've had historic levels of inflation long before Trump introduced these tarrifs, these tarrifs will only worsen inflation (and the economy).
By definition the US has entered 2 recessions since 2020, so when paired with inflation, it's not like these tarrifs are being introduced from a position of strength.
WhiteWaterM00se
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Btw, i know most know this already. But this will impact many goods from around the world. Not just Nintendo or video games. Practically everything.
It will become a good time to become a domestic reseller, wherever you live. eBay could make out pretty good, in the short term.
It will become a good time to become a domestic reseller, wherever you live. eBay could make out pretty good, in the short term.
IlGialloMondadori
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I can't wait for Donny Kong to release on the USA FreedomSwitch. Gonna be so good.
PharaoTutAnchAmun
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Canada is not putting tarifs on other countries only on Trump tie Dumpty who is putting tarifs on the most countries in the world except Rusia and North Korea...also on some islands near the North Pole where only pinguïns live....go figure
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Jayjayhd34
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Just strange they keep saying it on BBC 1 but there's not even article on there site or any site for that matter.
Boneless
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Building a factory and paying higher wages would also go into the selling price, so the consumer pays either way.
Poppinfresh
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It's the BBC. Who knows.
As far as I'm concerned, British news hasn't mattered in the US since 1776
WhiteWaterM00se
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I actually suspect now that I think about it. There will be NO Preorders for Switch 2 in the United States. People will be only allowed to buy one, and you get what you get. If they don't delay release date. Which, imo is what is most likely.
If Nintendo operated this way, they would literally have up to 24 hours before launch to determine price. They would kick the can down the road as far as possible.
If Nintendo operated this way, they would literally have up to 24 hours before launch to determine price. They would kick the can down the road as far as possible.
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No real point in delaying the release date. Trump is here for another 3.5 years at least and there's no rhyme or reason to what he does so tariffs like this will always be a threat.
Jayjayhd34
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It's mostly about America and stabbings lol
bender
What time is it?
IlGialloMondadori
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Or you know, US could make deals for factories and get that going and have its cake and eat it too instead of starting a trade war, tanking the economy and forcing everyone into misery for 5 to 10 years minimum.
xcalibersa
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Shem. Let Americans suffer
Hari Seldon
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The other unique thing about this tariff is that the country doing the tariffs is the country that overwhelming buys the most amount of shit. Tariffing when you are a net exporter is retarded. Tariffing when you are 2.5x larger than the next largest consumer market (which also happens to be communist and won't subsidize anyone else either) is not something that has been done before.
Poppinfresh
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I don't see the release date being delayed. The console is still going to sell relatively well regardless of cost and delaying the release will hurt profts on game sales.
However, I do see a scenario where there aren't pre-orders, just show up and buy, sort of like with the recent NVIDIA launches. Although, I certainly hope there's a lot more product in stock than NVIDIA had.
I could actually see an outright indefinite delay.
Fabieter
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They could wait for Vietnam to make a deal and relocate all consoles through them.
Setsuna Mudou
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Rentahamster
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It kinda has been. Tariffs on this scale have been tried at least 2 other times in the USA's history, with not so great results. The first time around Trump cut taxes and ballooned government spending, so the difference this time is that Trump will cut taxes more and fire a bunch of our federal workforce? That doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
This was done so that we could have cheap electronics, clothes, and other such goods. This also shifted economic inequality way in favor of the ownership class. As the ownership class becomes more politically powerful due to lobbying and cases like Citizens United, this shift gradually became the status quo.
I don't mean any offense by this, but why do you as a Canadian care so much about this American policy debate? Canadia already has great manufacturing industries like timber and steel.
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Fabieter
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I think Japanese sales are about the same.
64gigabyteram
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I mean even if these tariffs actually did encourage factory work, how many americans would realistically want to work in a factory in the first fucking place?
Back when this country was actually industrious, it was a miserable job with a high risk and high amounts of death.
People already don't want to pick fruit in the sun hence why it's a job sent off to immigrants- imagine having to work in a dark factory making Switches and Playstations all day doing the same shit for 8+ hours straight.
The only way it could even work is if you paid buku bucks (80 dollars an hour minimum) to make the average person maintain those conditions- but that just means that the switches are more expensive so who even wins?
Back when this country was actually industrious, it was a miserable job with a high risk and high amounts of death.
People already don't want to pick fruit in the sun hence why it's a job sent off to immigrants- imagine having to work in a dark factory making Switches and Playstations all day doing the same shit for 8+ hours straight.
The only way it could even work is if you paid buku bucks (80 dollars an hour minimum) to make the average person maintain those conditions- but that just means that the switches are more expensive so who even wins?
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HeisenbergFX4
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We have no idea what this measure is going to do but as you even pointed out things these last 4+ years were trending very poorly with 2 recessions and the spike in inflation and not a single person put together any idea on how to get it under control (its why I have said several times we didn't have a good choice in either candidate)
Regardless as an American most of my big ticket items I do my best to buy American
Mownoc
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Switch sales in the USA account for not far from a third of all switch sales.
No they can't go without US sales for "a few years" lol.
AJUMP23
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They have already announced over a Trillion in deals with companies for US investment.
Gamer79
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The liberals are insane.
1. They complain about Tariff's and how it increases the price of goods
2. Then They complain about salary gaps and slave labor
3. They have no answer on how to solve 1 and 2 without slave labor or people getting paid shit. It's the typical liberal loophole.
Nintendo has been a greedy company with this whole Switch 2 launch and glad they are facing more hardships.
Gamer79
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Apple $500 billion, Meta $500 billion, another organization $200 billion, etc etc.
The liberal media rarely talks about the success of Trump or Elon.
Iced Arcade
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lol we are already screwed enough with the price lol $699 plus tax ($797 in NS)
Lethal01
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We have been talking about how these actions would be absolutely terrible in the long term and that it would be completely idiotic to put them into action for ages, we aren't panicking cause of a bad day, we want to stop it cause its obviously only getting wores.
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IlGialloMondadori
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A greedy company lol.
WhiteWaterM00se
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Due to the cost of the Switch 2 to manufacture without tariffs, i suspect there is no Switch 2 Lite. They do a Switch 2 TV instead. They probably could get a launch price unit under $299 without tariffs. No screen, larger form factor for cooling, etc.
Hopefully they start development on that immediately, if they haven't already.
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Hari Seldon
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Factories today are not like factories in the 19th and early 20th century. They are heavily automated and require at least some specialized technical skills. I know a ton of people who lost solid manufacturing jobs when a Sony TV plant closed down, they were all smart people and loved that job.
Edit: They also offer upward mobility for people without 4 year degrees. With no degree you can start out as a normal assembler and then move up to a higher tier job like test technician or supervisor. Then if you get a proper engineering or business degree you can move into management. These are infinitely better than service jobs where you are treated like shit until you have to quit and move onto the next service job. Bringing back manufacturing in the US is a HUGE win, with hugely positive national security considerations. I just don't know if what Trump is doing is a good way of doing it, but I do know that the end goal is very much appealing.
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IlGialloMondadori
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Because when there's flecks of gold in a big pile of shit, all you see is a big pile of shit.
Trump does this every month, deal or not lol. Mexico and Canada made "deals" with him and he just pauses for a couple weeks. The uncertainty will be there until Trump is not.
I've heard the kulaks are to blame.
Gamer79
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I know every company wants to maximize profits but bullshit like Charging for a tech demo/interactive guide or charging much more money than the competition.
But thanks to the EU you can import it from neighboring countries like Germany without any hassle, its quite a bit cheaper there.
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Gamer79
Predicts the worst decade for Sony starting 2022
The US government has been run like shit with tons of Waste, Fraud, Abuse, etc. Elon is saving them from the robbers but they are mad at Elon. It's just horeshit. Most are just indoctrinated into their said party.,
American consumers will be the ones paying the price, not Nintendo or Trump. Nintendo (or any other company for that matter) will not be facing hardship, any tariff costs will be passed on.
AGRacing
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I get asked this a lot. Any Canadian who doesn't understand why I'd care about American policy is in a bubble. I especially get asked this in Toronto.
We are a giant country sitting on vast wealth and resources. We sell to Americans. We don't bother with national defence at scale.
Justin Trudeau admitted to Trump at Mara-logo we couldn't exist as a nation without the status quo. The genesis of the 51st state talk. Who do you think is really implementing policy that determines my mortgage rate? The Canadians? That's a joke.
Gamer79
Predicts the worst decade for Sony starting 2022
Short term you are correct. Long term it will bring more jobs for Americans and my grand kids will have a better chance of getting a job. Too much American business has been outsourced because it's cheaper and ends up fucking over Americans. When companies find it more lucrative to move here it will benefit Americans. You only see tomorrow, not next year.
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