Nintendo Switch 2 Preorders Delayed (US) Due To Tariffs, Release Date Still June 5

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AGRacing said:
There are a LOT of clowns in here.

America voted to reverse course on exporting GDP produced by its middle class to the rest of the world. They may pay a little more for a Switch.. they may not. Remains to be seen.

HOWEVER those who wish to work will finally be in demand. Wages will increase. It'll be a nice counter balance to the inflationary results of money printing…. WHICH IS THE REAL REASON TODAY that your new Switch is 450 USD.

In a little over 60 days America has secured an incredible amount of investment in jobs, factories and cash. I WISH we had that in my country… we just have inflation without the increase in wages. We just have our people increasing their personal debt.
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Thanks I needed a laugh this morning.
 
Fabieter said:
Another guy in this thread pointed out that average tariffs from Japan isn't even 2%.
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When I looked it up, I saw 46%, we're only charging half what countries charge us. Got a source for that 44% discrepancy? If Japan cancels every single shred of tariff against us, and we don't reciprocate, I'll be vocal about it. Until then? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
Tg89 said:
The 10% is on the imported cost though not the actual end cost.

I think if it stayed at 10% nothing would change price wise. It's close enough that the margins wouldn't be terribly impacted. The current amount would be disastrous though.
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Well it would be paid by the company that imports it unless Nintendo decided to pay it. Then that importer would send it to walmart or wherever I guess, then walmart would have a few options...
They could eat the price
They could add it to price
Or they could just increase the price of everything a little bit to spread it out on all products
 
simpatico said:
When I looked it up, I saw 46%, we're only charging half what countries charge us. Got a source for that 44% discrepancy? If Japan cancels every single shred of tariff against us, and we don't reciprocate, I'll be vocal about it. Until then? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Well that's not average tariffs.
 
Zathalus said:
Likely because you can easily afford it. Make no mistake, this is a great economic experiment that has unknown long term effects. The overwhelming amount of Economists think this is a really bad idea. Not to mention all the times in history when tariffs went very, very poorly.

This is a gamble, and if it goes where most think it is going, the political landscape in 2026 is going to be a bloodbath. Or not, maybe it all turns out really well, but I wouldn't want to bet on those odds.
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Agreed but I worked my ass off to get where I am today nearing the age of 58

I am one of those people that operate on about 5 hours of sleep nightly for the last 40 years because I want to be doing something to get ahead

Sitting here now reading comments of this while my wife and I also look at investment properties

I never stop grinding
 
simpatico said:
When I looked it up, I saw 46%, we're only charging half what countries charge us. Got a source for that 44% discrepancy? If Japan cancels every single shred of tariff against us, and we don't reciprocate, I'll be vocal about it. Until then? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Your source wouldn't happen to be this would it:


 
bender said:
That would only work for products produced in Japan (Switch is manufactured elsewhere) and:
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If countries start undoing every tariff they have against us, and we don't reciprocate that, I'll be loudly speaking out against it. Let's see what plays out. So much of the critique only focuses on the US, despite us just charging half of what is charged against us, aside from a few special cases. Should the US just shoulder this alone?
 
AGRacing said:
There are a LOT of clowns in here.

America voted to reverse course on exporting GDP produced by its middle class to the rest of the world. They may pay a little more for a Switch.. they may not. Remains to be seen.

HOWEVER those who wish to work will finally be in demand. Wages will increase. It'll be a nice counter balance to the inflationary results of money printing…. WHICH IS THE REAL REASON TODAY that your new Switch is 450 USD.

In a little over 60 days America has secured an incredible amount of investment in jobs, factories and cash. I WISH we had that in my country… we just have inflation without the increase in wages. We just have our people increasing their personal debt.
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And don't forget DOGE as well - what I wouldn't give to have that in my country - cutting the red tape and insane bloated bureaucracy.
 
wolffy66 said:
Well it would be paid by the company that imports it unless Nintendo decided to pay it. Then that importer would send it to walmart or wherever I guess, then walmart would have a few options...
They could eat the price
They could add it to price
Or they could just increase the price of everything a little bit to spread it out on all products
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I imagine in this case the importer is Nintendo. I think they would be importing it to their own warehouses and then distributing within the country. I may be wrong though.

Regardless that cost gets passed on.
 
FewRope said:
This already is a legendary thread, the Wikipedia world map included
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analog_future said:
What people aren't understanding is this is going to domino across not only the gaming industry, but nearly every industry. This is not limited to Nintendo. This affects all kinds of manufacturing world-wide.


Average folks are not going to be able to afford virtually anything sooner rather than later.
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It's going to cause manufacturing delays all over the world because of the uncertainty. Any business doing business with tariffed countries will hit the pause button immediately, because they don't want to buy goods or half goods with a 30-50% tariff that they won't be able to sell in the US while a competitor doing business in a country with 0-10% tariffs suddenly gets a leg up. What to do now? Stop production and move production over to another country? Wait a few days or even weeks to see if the US and the country you're doing business with come to an agreement? Think of inventive schemes to hide the manufacturing country? Or let a brand-new US based mother company become the new HQ of your company so that Japanese/European/Asian company is now firmly based in the US? Perhaps that does the trick? And what's going to happen with established businesses in countries that don't cave to Donald Trump?

This has real potential of bringing the the entire global economy to a screeching halt for weeks because of the enormous uncertainty. This could even lead to a global recession.
 
simpatico said:
If countries start undoing every tariff they have against us, and we don't reciprocate that, I'll be loudly speaking out against it. Let's see what plays out. So much of the critique only focuses on the US, despite us just charging half of what is charged against us, aside from a few special cases. Should the US just shoulder this alone?
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It's not whats happening here.
 
Hot5pur said:
There seems to be a certain segment of the population that gets off on seeing other people distressed/suffering, even if it means shooting yourself in the foot. Like you've gone against your better judgement and made things bad for yourself, but the thought of someone else freaking out keeps you warm at night. Like why? What kind of childhood did you people have.
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Well let's see.

17% slower games.
Squished game image.
Ridiculous costs on imports.
Black-and-white image with import games if you didn't use certain cables.
Literal years between the JP/US and Euro release of games.
Same censorship as in US version of games.
Region-locked games.
Tons of games never even released.
SNES released in fucking December 1992.
N64 and GC released six months after US launch.

It's enough to enjoy a little schadenfreude every now and then, isn't it?

(I think the current situation is lame, but a decade ago it would have made me laugh out loud. For days)
 
WhiteWaterM00se said:
BTW, You are witnessing history. This is WILD!!!!

If you are a high schooler, this could be moments taught in college business and Econ courses in a few years. Just as they teach about 2008 today. Pay attention!!!
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You mean like the last two times tariffs were levied extensively here in the United States it crippled the domestic economy and triggered economic problems throughout the globe?


Economists and educated folks have been asking people to pay attention for some time now...but we saw how that turned out...
 
WhiteWaterM00se said:
Well MS just said "HOLD MY BEER!" Nintendo doesn't get all the headlines today!

I couldn't create a thread as it is politically related. MS AI president interrupted by MS employee calling MS AI a War Profiteer live on a worldwide stream.


www.theverge.com

Microsoft employee disrupts 50th anniversary and calls AI boss ‘war profiteer’

“Shame on you.”
www.theverge.com www.theverge.com


Stay safe everyone. People are feeling the stress everywhere.
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The guy is just like.. thank you..okay. Thank you.. sooo
 
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Tg89 said:
Your source wouldn't happen to be this would it:


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That article is all sourced from this guy https://www.lowyinstitute.org/the-interpreter/contributors/articles/dmitry-grozoubinski (lol, lmao even) , and it doesn't even spell out his methodology. Just that ours is "bad". Have any critiques with more detail? I'm open to it. I think Trump is a fat, degenerate charlatan, but I do love these tariffs.
 
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VectorVictor said:
You mean like the last two times tariffs were levied extensively here in the United States it crippled the domestic economy and triggered economic problems throughout the globe?


Economists and educated folks have been asking people to pay attention for some time now...but we saw how that turned out...
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HeisenbergFX4 said:
Agreed but I worked my ass off to get where I am today nearing the age of 58

I am one of those people that operate on about 5 hours of sleep nightly for the last 40 years because I want to be doing something to get ahead

Sitting here now reading comments of this while my wife and I also look at investment properties

I never stop grinding
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Shutup and pitch. 😁
 
simpatico said:
If countries start undoing every tariff they have against us, and we don't reciprocate that, I'll be loudly speaking out against it. Let's see what plays out. So much of the critique only focuses on the US, despite us just charging half of what is charged against us, aside from a few special cases. Should the US just shoulder this alone?
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The tariff formula is nothing to do with tariffs against the US, it's the US trade deficit / other countries exports. The only way to reduce it is for the US to buy less goods from a country or sell more.
 
HeisenbergFX4 said:
Agreed but I worked my ass off to get where I am today nearing the age of 58

I am one of those people that operate on about 5 hours of sleep nightly for the last 40 years because I want to be doing something to get ahead

Sitting here now reading comments of this while my wife and I also look at investment properties

I never stop grinding
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lol, well it's a fire sale in FL compared to most of the US. Buy it up.
 
Bernoulli said:
the only thing this will achieve is more counter tariffs by others
everything is made outside the US
this applies to everything not only the switch
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As I stated Tariffs may not be the answer. Its not economically proven that they can reindustrialise an economy as no Western economy has done so. However, nobody looks at Detroit, or the North of England and thinks great, can't get better than this. When AI really hits and huge swaths become unemployed, who knows what's going to happen. My guess is somebody who you will dislike a lot more than Trump.
 
moogman said:
The tariff formula is nothing to do with tariffs against the US, it's the US trade deficit / other countries exports. The only way to reduce it is for the US to buy less goods from a country or sell more.
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It is and isn't. It's. Cost general past to consumer but needed since Trump isn't going to scale other taxes. If the 10% holds across the board, congrats we did we have our own VAT now loosely speaking, we did it!
 
For some reason people can't wrap their head around the fact you don't just change decades long policy over couple of months without upsets. if you want meaningful changes you have to take the consequences that come with them. most simply cannot see past tomorrow.
 
GHG said:
If I can get as much done as I do in a single night in Vegas then Nintendo can get Switch 2 factories to operational capacity on US soil by June 5th.
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This isn't how things work in manufacturing, at all.

You don't move a plant like you'd move a house.
 
LazyParrot said:
It's "bad" because it doesn't even quantify tariffs lol. They just divided each country's trade deficit by its exports to the US because Trump is a complete moron who thinks a trade deficit means the US is "losing".
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He's not wrong. I'm generally amazed that anyone on the right in America can see Trump having the same interests that they do, but I do love these tariffs. I'll deal with austerity for a while if it means burning down the businesses who rely on shenanigans to stay afloat. Hell I think it will be good for the soul. If there's anything America needs, it's detachment from materialism.
 
havoc00 said:
For some reason people can't wrap their head around the fact you don't just change decades long policy over couple of months without upsets. if you want meaningful changes you have to take the consequences that come with them. most simply cannot see past tomorrow
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But the plan for doing so is coming from someone who dosn't know what he said 10 minutes after he said it... and then claiming the opposite
 
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HeisenbergFX4 said:
Aww name calling, cute and people wonder why politics can't be discussed around here

I will gladly pay higher prices to have kept the other choice from continuing down the path we were heading the last 4 years

Well worth it to me
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Yeah, life was terrible in the last 4 years, it just keeps getting better and better in the last few months. Let's keep in touch over the next few more, it's about to get so much better :)
 
Astray said:
I meant move between houses.

There's a lot that goes into planning, installing and executing a new production line. This isn't gonna go like Trump thinks it will imo.
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Doesn't it work like Sim City or Cities Skylines?

I'm sure these companies will build factories in the USA within seconds and BOOM! Production of goods is home!!
 
digital_ghost said:
50% tariff equals a $1000 switch 2. They will loose money because they wont sell as many consoles at 1k.
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They can't... maybe they will delay the American launch until they decide what to do. Maybe in a year or so there will be a choice of manufacturing within the US..

Or maybe they will ship a limited number of systems to cover their hardcore audience.

There are some options, but eating $500 in losses in a widespread fashion isn't one of them. It won't happen..
 
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