Nintendo Switch 2 Preorders Delayed (US) Due To Tariffs, Release Date Still June 5

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Randall365 said:
The tariff of 46% on Vietnam is surprisingly high. China too at 34%. Caught them out I reckon.

Does Nintendo pay these on rrp (or cost price) when the units enter the US or does the retailer pay?
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The gobal version of the Switch 2 was already marked up by 30% compared to the Japanese version.

And I'm sure the Japanese version has plenty of margin built into it. Any increase is just greed at this point.
 
Mister Wolf said:
I can only speak for my country the U.S.A we have plenty over here with deep pockets and a massive scalping culture going on with limited edition shoes and everything else.
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Yeah. Gotcha. Scalpers are definitely a factor. USA is very price sensitive market compared to EU and AUS. My thought process was based on that. Then. There's also a factor of initial supply and demand.
 
Robb said:
So Switch (1) had a Covid-boom and Switch 2 will have a Tariff-bust..
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I was just thinking the same thing.
 
MrJangles said:
Lol, the fat orange CUNT strikes again :messenger_tears_of_joy:
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this shows you have zero understanding of what has been happening to our country for the past 20 years

i recommend you start a company, spend years doing research and development to bring a product to market and then watch china release cheap knock offs to flood the market within weeks/months. we have been heavily tariffed worldwide for decades and its about time we fight back. try bringing your product to europe or china and see how much that costs you and then think twice about writing immature and corny takes like the one above

the switch 2 may cost us a few bucks more, and if you're an adult that cannot afford 500$ for a console that releases every 8 years then maybe switch hobbies
 
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yogaflame said:
Nah it will be fine. All companies knows how to negotiate for incentives and tax cuts especially if they build plants in USA. I'm confident everything will be fine especially in gaming industry. Its all about negotiations. Growing pains in a short while, but in the long run it will be beneficial too USA to create jobs especially on states that has a very high unemployment rate, which is one of the top reason for the election result in USA, along with frustration against twisted dei and woke agenda like for example forcing and imposing twisted gender ideology.

And its just being fair since other countries are already charging very big tariffs against USA before Pres Trump presidency. Price will stabilize again once everything becomes fair in tariffs and more factories are build in USA.

For me, just manage your budget properly, take care of you job and work hard.
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What a croc of shit. These 'reciprocal' tariffs are anything but. The formula used had absolutely nothing to with whether or not other countries were charging tariffs. Instead, they simply looked at the trade balance, and divided it by the total trade. Completely non-sensical. I have no doubt that the US will eventually cave, probably under the pretense of 'very good' agreements made with every other country (that won't actually change anything from what was happening before). The whole mess is a completely inflicted self-own.
 
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LiquidMetal14 said:
Tell us how the tarriff policy really is since you are the expert here sitting in your desk doing very important things.
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It doesn't fooking take a genius to to figure this out. It's a tax on import paid by consumers of the country that introduce it.

Edit: Importer may choose to bear the part or whole of it or pass it entirely on the consumer. Since they are a business not a charity. It will almost certainly be passed to consumer.
 
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WhiteWaterM00se said:
BTW, You are witnessing history. This is WILD!!!!

If you are a high schooler, this could be moments taught in college business and Econ courses in a few years. Just as they teach about 2008 today. Pay attention!!!
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2008 was the result of de-industrialising the west and centering our economies around banking. The tarriffs are intended to reverse that.

Tech companies may move production to the US, or they might think that all they have to do is just outlast Trump.

Whether it works or not is debateable, but we can't go on forever making nothing and printing money, going further and futher into debt whilst slaves in Asia make all our stuff.

My country (UK) will probably be one of the first to go bankrupt.
 
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I'm legitimately curious if this will still sell like crazy, or just as crazy, with a +$600 price tag due to tariffs

Silver lining is that they might be easier to get…I guess?
 
TacoSavage said:
this shows you have zero understanding of what has been happening to our country for the past 20 years

i recommend you start a company, spend years doing research and development to bring a product to market and then watch china release cheap knock offs to flood the market within weeks/months. we have been heavily tariffed worldwide for decades and its about time we fight back. try bringing your product to europe or china and see how much that costs you and then think twice about writing immature and corny takes like the one above

the switch 2 may cost us a few bucks more, and if you're an adult that cannot afford 500$ for a console that releases every 8 years then maybe switch hobbies
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Is anyone really criticizing tariffs on China?
Trump just tariffed the entire world, including countries with labor costs on the same level as the US, not only low-wage ones - and including countries that charge ZERO tariffs (such as Singapore).
This is surgery performed with a sledgehammer.
By a drunk surgeon.
 
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DinoD said:
It doesn't fooking take a genius to to figure this out. It's a tax on import paid by consumers of the country that introduce it.
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Its also that Many countries impose tariffs on imported goods that are subsidized in their country of origin, in order to ensure fair competition for domestic producers.

Thats also a resson alot of countries tariff the us like they do. So 0% tariff only makes sense if countries stop doing this completely.
 
Strange decision.

I thought there were reports of Nintendo shipping in 500,000 Switch 2 units to America in January/Feb/March, which i assume was done to beat any tariffs.
 
XXL said:
Of consoles, absolutely.


As we know Steam is massive in China. Over 50% of the user have their language set to Chinese.
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That is not half. If we look at Nintendo, the topic of the thread, the Americas make up 44.3% (https://wnhub.io/news/finance/item-43404?), but that includes both continents. Estimates put it around 37.5%, so absolutely significant. But even if Nintendo raises the prices due to tariffs I still expect the Switch 2 to do decently well in the USA, but obviously not to the level of the Switch 1.
 
devutos said:
Is anyone really criticizing tariffs on China?
Trump just tariffed the entire world, including countries with labor costs on the same level as the US, not only low-wage ones - and including countries that charge ZERO tariffs (such as Singapore)
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its the art of the deal, shock, disrupt and throw a wrench into the system and force countries to re-negotiate their tariffs. keep an eye on the news and watch how countries or companies will fold slowly one by one..
 
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ValiantInstance said:
2008 was the result of de-industrialising the west and centering our economies around banking. The tarriffs are intended to reverse that.

Tech companies may move production to the US, or they might think that all they have to do is just outlast Trump.

Whether it works or not is debateable, but we can't go on forever making nothing and printing money, going further and futher into debt whilst slaves in Asia make all our stuff.

My country (UK) will probably be one of the first to go bankrupt.
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Only accelerated since then. More and more traditional white-collar roles are being moved out to nations like India now, or else replaced entirely by AI. Followed to its logical end point, you end up with mass unemployment in developed nations, bankrupt governments and eye-watering wealth disparity. We're already well one our way, here in little old Blighty.
 
TacoSavage said:
its the art of the deal, shock, disrupt and throw a wrench into the system and force countries to re-negotiate their tariffs. keep an eye on the news and watch how countries or companies will fold slowly one by one..
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What? What is Singapore meant to do to 'fold', charge negative tariffs? They already charge nothing.

Again this would make some sense if it was aimed at specific countries with certain practices. It's just insanity the way it is.
 
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It's all to bring down the huge tariffs that other countries impose on the US / bring future jobs to the US.

we have been bleeding money and jobs as a country for a long time.

But yes in the meantime you will get a lot companies taking advantage of the situation and/or holding off to see if their countries make a deal.

Don't be a selfish dick by only thinking of yourself at the moment and crying about it.
 
ValiantInstance said:
2008 was the result of de-industrialising the west and centering our economies around banking. The tarriffs are intended to reverse that.

Tech companies may move production to the US, or they might think that all they have to do is just outlast Trump.

Whether it works or not is debateable, but we can't go on forever making nothing and printing money, going further and futher into debt whilst slaves in Asia make all our stuff.

My country (UK) will probably be one of the first to go bankrupt.
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Only accelerated since then. More and more traditional white-collar roles are being moved out to nations like India now, or else replaced entirely by AI. Followed to its logical end point, you end up with mass unemployment in developed nations, bankrupt governments and eye-watering wealth disparity. We're already well one our way, here in little old Blighty.



perfectly said gents
 
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Reminder: Discussion on politics is not allowed here. Please keep posts focused on the tariffs and the impact on gaming and not politics or politicians.

Thanks.
 
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Zathalus said:
That is not half. If we look at Nintendo, the topic of the thread, the Americas make up 44.3% (https://wnhub.io/news/finance/item-43404?), but that includes both continents. Estimates put it around 37.5%, so absolutely significant. But even if Nintendo raises the prices due to tariffs I still expect the Switch 2 to do decently well in the USA, but obviously not to the level of the Switch 1.
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Vietnam (where Switch 2 is produced) is folding. They want to make a deal with the US.


You're correct it's around 40%.
 
Import tariffs introduced by US Administration may not be a problem for US consumers only. Many multinationals such as Nintendo know USA is their most important market , which is also most price sensitive market in the world. They may attempt to offset their profit loses in US by jacking up prices in other less price sensitive regions such EU and AUS.
 
RoboFu said:
It's all to bring down the huge tariffs that other countries impose on the US / bring future jobs to the US.

we have been bleeding money and jobs as a country for a long time.

But yes in the meantime you will get a lot companies taking advantage of the situation and/or holding off to see if their countries make a deal.

Don't be a selfish dick by only thinking of yourself at the moment and crying about it.
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What huge tariffs ?
You mean the complete made up charts Trump showed ?
 
BbMajor7th said:
Only accelerated since then. More and more traditional white-collar roles are being moved out to nations like India now, or else replaced entirely by AI. Followed to its logical end point, you end up with mass unemployment in developed nations, bankrupt governments and eye-watering wealth disparity. We're already well one our way, here in little old Blighty.
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And no one here knows how to stop it. Politicians will just shut the blinds and keep playing musical chairs as taxes go up.
 
ValiantInstance said:
2008 was the result of de-industrialising the west and centering our economies around banking. The tarriffs are intended to reverse that.

Tech companies may move production to the US, or they might think that all they have to do is just outlast Trump.

Whether it works or not is debateable, but we can't go on forever making nothing and printing money, going further and futher into debt whilst slaves in Asia make all our stuff.

My country (UK) will probably be one of the first to go bankrupt.
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I agree. I would also add, that it would seem doing things the "Way we have always done them, in terms of food, medicine, cars, and housing" is not working and we need real viable alternatives soon.
 
TacoSavage said:
this shows you have zero understanding of what has been happening to our country for the past 20 years

i recommend you start a company, spend years doing research and development to bring a product to market and then watch china release cheap knock offs to flood the market within weeks/months. we have been heavily tariffed worldwide for decades and its about time we fight back. try bringing your product to europe or china and see how much that costs you and then think twice about writing immature and corny takes like the one above

the switch 2 may cost us a few bucks more, and if you're an adult that cannot afford 500$ for a console that releases every 8 years then maybe switch hobbies
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Sorry pal, I can't hear you over all teh FREEDOMS 🤣🤣🤣
 
XXL said:
Vietnam (where Switch 2 is produced) is folding. They want to make a deal with the US.


You're correct it's around 40%.
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Yes, countries obviously want to negotiate. That is not in doubt, the question on everyone's mind is if it is going to work as advertised, and if the pain is worth the gain. Both long term and short term.
 
devutos said:
What? What is Singapore meant to do to 'fold', charge negative tariffs? They already charge nothing.

Again this would make some sense if it was aimed at specific countries with certain practices. It's just insanity the way it is.
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These guys pulled the numbers out of their ass, with a silly table that does not reflect actual tariff realities at all. Someone just settled on "10%" as the minimum and there it went. Anyway, I don't think Nintendo would be willing to eat the increased costs, at least not across the board. They sure are not going to drop the price though.
 
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