Nintendo Switch 2 Preorders Delayed (US) Due To Tariffs, Release Date Still June 5

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touchfuzzy said:
Hopefully this doesn't affect Canada, but we'll probably get screwed too.
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Gamer79 said:
Tarrif's have worked in the past. Back in the 1800's the country was mostly funded by Tarrifs and times were prosperous. I don't think what My country is asking is Unreasonable, They are asking for the same amount that you charge us. You charge us 20% we charge you 20%.
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That's a nice fairy tale, honestly, but...no, that's not what is happening. Again, the so-called "reciprocal" numbers are fake at worst and misleading at best.

If that were truly the case, you'd hear a lot less complaints and even Nintendo likely wouldn't be delaying pre-orders, because the new tariffs would be almost certainly lower than what was announced.
 
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DeafTourette said:
These tariffs won't JUST affect Nintendo but all videogames and consoles...
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Most U.S eletronics are produced in Laos, China, Indonesia or Vietnam due to lower prices, so you can basically everything with eletric wiring to increase in price
 
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Import from Canadian retailers?

Jk.

I refuse to pay more than $500 for the console. End of.

I refuse to pay anymore for their games.

If it all goes up then I'll just patiently wait years for the eventual price drops or buying used.
 
I'm not sure why anyone thought the announced price would include the tariff… but yes this is the worst time to launch a console in the US, especially one that challenges the value proposition with more expensive games.

Cost of living in the US is going to increase dramatically as will job losses, and consumers will shrink their spending accordingly.
 
chromhound said:
So the price didn't include the tariff???
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They were likely already priced in but no one expected the fat clown to impose a near 50% tariff because the level of 'thought' that went into them was nothing more than to take the trade deficit divided by total goods of imports, divided by two.
 
Atrus said:
I'm not sure why anyone thought the announced price would include the tariff… but yes this is the worst time to launch a console in the US, especially one that challenges the value proposition with more expensive games.

Cost of living in the US is going to increase dramatically as will job losses, and consumers will shrink their spending accordingly.
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They should have releases this console two years ago, but they decided to postpone it to milk the Nintendo Switch 1, you can also blame Nintendo on that. Now anericans will have to pay $600 on underpowered hardware.
 
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Draugoth said:
Most U.S eletronics are produced in Laos, China, Indonesia or Vietnam due to lower prices, so you can basically everything to increase in price
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each component depending on where it's made will have an increase then the final product will have another increase, jumping from 10% to 54% is HUGE

 
Madonis said:
That's a nice fairy tale, honestly, but...no, that's not what is happening. Again, the so-called "reciprocal" numbers are fake at worst and misleading at best.

If that were truly the case, you'd hear a lot less complaints and even Nintendo likely wouldn't be delaying pre-orders, because the new tariffs would be almost certainly lower than what was announced.
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Economists also noted that the White House equation focuses only on goods, and ignores trade in services, where the U.S. enjoys a trade surplus.

It's the most important part imo.
 
Bernoulli said:
each component depending on where it's made will have an increase then the final product will have another increase, jumping from 10% to 54% is HUGE

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Solution would be to produce domestically but there's no reason to since U.S gov doesn't offer incentives like China and Vietnman does.
 
Bernoulli said:
they were 10% now 54%
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Other Asian markets is the big one here. The OEM I work with has been diversifying their manufacturing outside of China since the tariffs imposed during Trump's first term, but a lot of that effort seems all for not...at least for keeping US prices stable.

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Solution would be to produce domestically but there's no reason to since U.S gov doesn't offer incentives like China and Vietnman does.
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By the time you have production capabilities in the US, this administration will be long out of office. Further buying American made would be far more expensive.
 
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Guardian Monkey said:
We knew they were coming, while Vietnam was a bit higher. I honestly assumed they built $100 into the cost already, this shouldn't be more than a $400 machine, see Japan cost. I guess, it's wait and see what happens with negotiations.
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Sound like Vietnam is coming to the table eliminating tariifs from US.
 
Madonis said:
You can't seriously claim the tariffs are reciprocal when the numbers on the table used for comparison are not accurate at all (for instance, putting 10% tariffs on countries that aren't applying anything remotely like that to the U.S.), so the whole premise is rotten. It's an exercise born from mostly bad faith.
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From what I read the tariffs are reciprocal and are set at half of what other countries impose on U.S. goods, with the direct intent of getting other countries to lower their own barriers. And the US certainly has the bargaining power to do this. Many countries have already come to the table and I assume many more will - including Japan. There are risks, though. Good threat outlining the pros and cons here:

 
Hot5pur said:
There seems to be a certain segment of the population that gets off on seeing other people distressed/suffering, even if it means shooting yourself in the foot. Like you've gone against your better judgement and made things bad for yourself, but the thought of someone else freaking out keeps you warm at night. Like why? What kind of childhood did you people have.
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I'm with you..I don't understand it myself. I mean most American's don't have passports or leave their own counties ever so it shouldn't surprise us that they're as ignorant as they are.
 
Guardian Monkey said:
Most of the cost is tooling, not labor. Even TSMC, said the Arizona plant will have 10% running cost over Taiwan production.

www.tomshardware.com

Producing wafers at TSMC Arizona is only 10% more expensive than in Taiwan: TechInsights

It is equipment, not labor that defines chipmaking costs.
www.tomshardware.com www.tomshardware.com
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Yeah, how much human effort goes into making a switch? I bet it's 80% putting machine made parts into the boxes, not some guy with a soldering iron. Hell, I can strip down and reassemble a joy-con in like 5 min with just the crap tools I have, much less the little tricks they must use. So even if its an hour or 2 of human work all told, that is a $20ish difference. It ain't master electrician level work there.
 
Hahah gamers suddenly care about politics.

They'd rather take the worst the dems have to offer rather than have to deal with MUH VIDYAGEAMZ BEING CAUGHT UP IN A TRADE WARRRRR.
 
Bernoulli said:
each component depending on where it's made will have an increase then the final product will have another increase, jumping from 10% to 54% is HUGE

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Absolutely retarded.

I was wondering why 5080s are finally in stock at all my local retailers but are retailing for $500-600 above the $999 MSRP Nvidia set for them.

I could understand a $100-200 but this is insane.

 
GHG said:
I don't see the problem.

All Nintendo need to do is open a factory in Ohio and make the Switch 2 there. There's still enough time for them to get it done.
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With US salaries compared to china/vietnam switch 2 made there would be 999$ at the least :D
 
Branded said:
Hahah gamers suddenly care about politics.

They'd rather take the worst the dems have to offer rather than have to deal with MUH VIDYAGEAMZ BEING CAUGHT UP IN A TRADE WARRRRR.
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this its dumb i know some do not like the guy but the way they way freak out is just so tiring.
 
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