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Nintendo Switch Discussion Thread (Question of the Day, Countdown, etc)
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Out of sheer curiosity, is there any particular reason for MK8 on Day 1 & Splatoon in August? And where did Gyromite 2 come from?
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
That better not be the case.
Ah shit, I'd take it if it really does have Battle arenas.
Eh, I'm, sure they will. Look at Minecraft. If you didn't know about Minecraft you'd think the graphics are some kind of joke. Look at the Clueless Gamer segment for instance.
I'm not saying BoTW will sell 200 million copies or anything. Just that as far as Zelda goes, this is its best shot a mass market success.
Skyward Sword was basically tradtional 3D Zelda as a Disney movie. Great for the fans but not really friendly to newcomers or the mass market.
Toadthemushroom
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Kingdom Hearts was followed up by no new Kingdom Hearts game - Bravely was in development concurrently with it. DS had several Kingdom Hearts games, 3DS only got one. Actually, Square Enix's 3DS support has nothing on how many games and followups they put on DS and PSP.
Capcom never followed up on those two initial Resident Evil games, Revelations 2 didn't come to 3DS.
Konami did a Konami - but I bet they wouldn't have had 3DS been a large chunk of their revenue. They were initially a big supporter of the 3DS, even commissioning a bigger-budget RPG from Tri-Ace.
Namco didn't followup on Ridge Racer, Ace Combat and Tales -- had those games met their sales expectations they would have. PSP got a Ridge Racers 2 and several Ace Combat and DS got several original Tales games, not a cheap port of a mobile Tales game. Had Tales of the Abyss performed well on 3DS it wouldn't be hard to imagine 3DS versions of Symphonia and Symphonia 2, or even an original Tales game like the DS had. Instead Namco shifted focus back to PlayStation.
Koei Tecmo didn't followup on Dead or Alive Dimensions.
Level-5 did a great job supporting 3DS, but they've sensed the decline and have openly stated that they will not be supporting Switch at launch; massive contrast to how they saw 3DS as an opportunity to win out the gate with Layton 5.
Note how other publishers basically didn't even bother supporting 3DS with the kind of games they made in the previous generation, games and risks that were sustainable to produce back then but weren't in the 3DS market. Sure, the biggest games remained on 3DS, like Monster Hunter, Yokai Watch, Shin Megami Tensei but it's evident that as the market shrunk, and so has the variety and type of games that were produced for 3DS and Vita. Both systems' libraries don't hold a candle to their predecessors, and publishers definitely didn't greenlight followups for most of their original games.
Before the 3DS launched, the message was that it was *the* flagship platform for a lot of publishers' IP to launch on. Many of those IP never returned after the initial commitment, which is indicative of the way the market went and how 3DS wasn't a sustainable enough of a platform for bigger budget handheld games and risks. Also remember how 3DS - as originally intended -- didn't even support DLC. DS represented such a massive chunk of the Japanese market and for third party publishers that supporting Nintendo's followup out of the gate would be irresistible. The pieces didn't come together so well though so few of those initial big budget handheld games got direct followups greenlit, and publishers moved those IP elsewhere.
Since apparently release guesses are back, I revived the list that I put up a while back.
March
This is only going off of what we know of via rumors & leaks. The real X-Factor right now is whatever new IP that Emily Rogers alluded to.
March
- The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
- Splatoon Switch
- Mario Kart 8 Switch
- Super Mario Switch
- Xenoblade X
- Super Mario Maker
- Mario RPG: Rabbids Kingdom Battle
- Smash 4 Switch
- Pikmin 4
- Pokémon Stars
- Retro Studios' Project
This is only going off of what we know of via rumors & leaks. The real X-Factor right now is whatever new IP that Emily Rogers alluded to.
FFS.
Wow, you really have some reading comprehension problems.
i've not been great at predictions in the past, but i did think the wii u was going to at least start worse than the ps3. in 2011 and 2012, there was a good group of people who believed that because the wii was successful, that the wii u would be successful too. but i think they were ignoring the big warning signs about that machine which came to fruition. maybe if the wii u had launched in 2011, when the 360 and ps3 were still two years off from their own successors, and tablets weren't super widespread, it would have lasted six years instead of four.
regarding the switch, i think it's fair to keep expectations at a certain level, but i think it's also a good idea to make those expectations from all angles. the switch is most likely not going to get a lot of the major cinematic/blockbuster third-party games in the west. i don't think it'll see anything from rockstar, bioware, or blizzard (maybe), but at least for the first year or two, it should receive the major franchises like assassin's creed, call of duty, and maybe also some games from ea sports. ubisoft is also going to be on board as they never actually stopped supporting nintendo platforms, and warner bros. will be there with their support through lego games and probably one rocksteady game if the time is right. mostly though - i expect this support will quickly dwindle to family games after about a year - so lego, minecraft, and little else.
on the japanese side, i expect a lot more support. there just isn't really any other choice. the vita is on its way out in japan and while the ps4 is starting to pick up the slack, developers now have the choice to make switch/ps4 games, which might be even easier than vita/ps4 games with regards to scope - a company like falcom, for instance, wouldn't have to make a poorer vita version of a game to pay the bills for the complete ps4 version. the games that are maybe not going to happen on switch are from really small companies like idea factory that sorta worked themselves into a super niche corner. maybe not the anime games that were plentiful on ps vita either. otherwise, i suspect traditional ds and 3ds franchises will be there like layton, ace attorney, monster hunter, sonic the hedgehog, dragon quest, etc. it's enough that in the end, the system should form a fairly unique and interesting library that doesn't feel super niche.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Wave Race: Blue Storm will be all yours within the launch window.
Bring back the classics
Banned
Yes@! I seriously want a new wave race, pilot wings and l uigis mansion please ninty! !
The chances are decent, but not exactly a guarantee.
That's one of those games I could definitely see happen.
You may play a game for 25 minutes.
Afterwards, the system will shut down and you must take a break for at least an hour.
Those loading screens in Wii Sports were the warm up. Now we're serious.
But at the same time, WB Games did cut the Wii U's DLC support of the first game short, so WB Games may be a bit apprehensive about supporting the Switch with Injustice 2. Not even Steam is getting the game, despite WB Games doing right by PC players with MKXL on PC.
Warner Bros. and Nintendo had a pretty good relationship going when Wii U came out. I'd expect they continue this relationship thanks to LEGO.
I'm pretty sure we'll see Shadow of Mordor 2 eventually, but will it be on Switch?
JoshuaJSlone
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If Level-5 won't be at the event this week, I think it's going to be first party only thing. I can't think of a third party publisher that's closer to Nintendo than Level-5, they're literally Nintendo exclusive on consoles save for 1 title (Ninokuni).
11PM on Thursday.
thanks
I fully expect Lady Layton on the Switch. The game already has HD assets as it's coming to mobile too. Should be a relatively easy release for them.
Toadthemushroom
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Marvelous' Kenichiro Takaki received an invite to the Nintendo Switch Presentation so third party support will definitely be present.
https://twitter.com/kenichiro_taka/status/813393348824174592
These are my first party predictions:
Launch: Zelda and Splatoon
April: eShop barrage of crashmo, doctor mario, box boy collection.
May: Mario Kart 8
June: Super Smash Bros
July: Xenoblade Chronicles X
August: Super Mario Maker
September: Mario x Rabbids
October: Pokémon Stars
November: Super Mario Switch
December: Retros Game (i think metroid) but will get delayed to feb of following year.
Launch: Zelda and Splatoon
April: eShop barrage of crashmo, doctor mario, box boy collection.
May: Mario Kart 8
June: Super Smash Bros
July: Xenoblade Chronicles X
August: Super Mario Maker
September: Mario x Rabbids
October: Pokémon Stars
November: Super Mario Switch
December: Retros Game (i think metroid) but will get delayed to feb of following year.
Diprosalic
Banned
Are they still making Yokai Watch? Thought that horse has been beaten to death, revived and beaten to death again.
Yeah, I'm the one who read "BotW´s awareness is along the lines of Bayonetta 2 and it´s possible for it to get a similar number of sales" in an example about how popularity on GAF doesn't always match the outside world.
purseowner
Member
I think it's highly likely, given it's not confirmed exclusive and the franchise started life on the DS.
buy a ps4 instead, that way no one has to die
i highly doubt it, given the fact this is a different architecture
TwistedFreeze
Member
No but I wouldn't bet on it. It's a single-screen device
Physical games = 100% not happening.
Digital games = there's a possibility but I'm not holding my breath.
eh. switch is a touchscreen. just make a pixel perfect emulator and give me the two screens on the switch screen.
of course I don't see it happening. but nintendo could do it.
Chances are high IMO.
Shit, I can't trade in my 3DS then for it if not :/
They could always release a joycon grip that allows you to play with the screen vertically. It would be ugly as heck but doable.
I agree. If it was console exclusive Sony would've screamed that crap from atop a mountain. They love beating their chest when it comes to console exclusives or straight exclusives.
TheDinoman
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Honestly, if the additions to Smash Bros. are as minimal as Laura and Source Gaming indicate, I'd really hate for it come out so late in the year. It should just come out only a few months after the Switch launches, in like the summer or something.
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