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Nintendo Switch Discussion Thread (Question of the Day, Countdown, etc)
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lwilliams3
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I believe the thing to come from this is that Nintendo is not going to make any investment to put extra non-gaming features in the Switch. For the Wii and Wii U, they set up things like the weather channel and TVii that connected to gaming. Nintendo is likely not doing those type of things for the Switch.
I seriously doubt Netflix will be completely skipped over on the Switch. Even the Wii had that, and the effort will be by Netflix themselves rather than Nintendo.
And here I thought Vern was a verified insider with all of these statements being thrown around. And then it turns out his source is shaky at best.
That said, personally I don't need a web browser or Netflix. I never used it on any of my consoles. I got a PC hooked up to my TV and an iPad or phone with me at all times.
That said, personally I don't need a web browser or Netflix. I never used it on any of my consoles. I got a PC hooked up to my TV and an iPad or phone with me at all times.
My source isn't shaky. They don't work for Nintendo, but they are working on Switch software. And they won't tell me every single thing they know, but they are pointing me in different ways. Again I didn't guarantee these things won't be there. My speculation is just as valid as any claiming that it'll have all these apps.
Have they dropped any hints about the Pro controller having motion chips?
PS4 has a "Its all about games" image. #4ThePlayers and whatsnot.
Netflix, YouTube and Spotify exclusivity didn't take away that image.
Same, sans Spotify, for Wii, 3DS and WiiU.
And regarding Nintendos strength are games... well, yes. But they didn't develop the Netflix and Google apps, Netflix and Google did.
Again I'm not guaranteeing anything, let's wait and see. I am merely going down the direction I've been pushed down by a person that I've known for many years IRL and trust (and corroborated by people I have less faith in) . I'm not trying to get attention or whatever. I'm a Nintendo fan and I'm stoked for the Switch. If I wanted attention I'd make a twitter account and leak all the hard facts that I definitely do know (
software mainly... though that would compromise my friend so won't go that way
ChrisMahoney
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How would a game dev have any idea about Switch not having Netflix?
Your speculation is less valid because Nintendo not allowing Netflix to make a Netflix app makes zero sense.
Cuningas de Häme
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Well, Nate seems to at least partially agree with Vern... Maybe don't be so aggressive with your replies to Vern? He says that his stuff is speculation with some backing from his friend. Most of the people here just speculate with tales from their ass.
PS4 "for the gamers" was always full of shit. It was always an entertainment center type of thing with million different functions.
If Nintendo really makes snappy, only for gaming device I am happy. That's what I really want from a game console. A machine that plays games. That is like the good old days.
Just chill.
PS4 "for the gamers" was always full of shit. It was always an entertainment center type of thing with million different functions.
If Nintendo really makes snappy, only for gaming device I am happy. That's what I really want from a game console. A machine that plays games. That is like the good old days.
Just chill.
GiantBreadbug
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I think this is really unwise and there's basically no reason for it. Have easy shit like this done at launch or otherwise it looks pretty bad. People need to hear that it has these things during prelaunch so it's perceived as a multimedia device.
Boss Doggie
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lmao the presentation thread
Sorry vern, I just want to be absolutely sure of the groun you stand on (as much as you can tell, of course): I get it that you heard the system will be more games-focused, but did you specifically hear that there won't be a browser and that non-Nintendo non-gaming apps like Netflix cannot be there for whatever reason? Again, asking for enough clarity on the matter.
Supposing Vern knows something/is right, could we discuss what this means?
TyMiles2012
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I doubt it unless there are strict limitations. Data isn't cheap by any means.
There are a lot of reasons to not have them. You think Nintendo wants to compete with the cheap Abdroid tablet market with this thing? You think Nintendo is interested in offering Apps and stuff that people already have in a better version in their pocket at all time? You think Nintendo wants to compromise gaming in order to offer a smooth App experience? You really need another browser that will be worse than the browser on your phone?
No. 4G would make this device a mess. You really want to tell people to get a second data plan in order to play Splatoon on the go? That's just messy. Just use your phone as a hotspot and tether its connection to the Switch.
I expect companies like Netflix to wait and see how it's selling first before they commit on writing an App for the platform. YouTube is another story.
None of those make sense - it's about added value. You give the device added value by letting third party companies develop software for it. They even make money on it because every subscription that goes through their eshop gives them a 30% cut just like apple/google do.
And WiiU had a great browser, why would it be worse? It actually had one of the best console browsers.
They also don't have to "compromise gaming"... In what way would a netflix app "compromise gaming"? That's ridiculous. The only way it would compromise gaming is if they would let the device spent too much resources on background services, but if they do it like ps4 does it will work without any compromise.
Also - how are you going to add social media functions your device (post to facebook, post to twitter, upload on youtube, stream twitch) if you don't allow those services on your device.
Netflix writes apps for everything that has a web connected cpu in it these days.
You're doing this shtick again? Pretending to be an insider without being vetted by the mods?
Edit: 10k had sources too, remember? Why are we playing this game again?
Plus, what would a game developer realistically know about Netflix app and browser?
Pretty sure Netflix now uses HTML5. Nintendo's Web Framework for developers is based on HTML 5. So I doubt it's going to cost much in development time.
I'm not sure. The app is probably already coded and ready to go. I would also say Nintendo would have an interest in having Netflix, so it would arrive sooner rather than later.
Not having Netflix and a web browser would be quite stupid. It's gimping your device of basic features.
Yes, you have several other devices that have browsers and Netflix, but why would you want to pick another device to search on the net where you find that damn collectable in Xenoblade X instead of just pausing the game and opening the browser on Switch?
Why wouldn't you want Switch to be the device to watch Netflix and others on?
Why giving up on easy selling points? No, nobody would buy Switch for browser and Netflix, but for sure having those would count as additional incentive at the end of the day.
Not having them bring negative vibe.
Yes, you have several other devices that have browsers and Netflix, but why would you want to pick another device to search on the net where you find that damn collectable in Xenoblade X instead of just pausing the game and opening the browser on Switch?
Why wouldn't you want Switch to be the device to watch Netflix and others on?
Why giving up on easy selling points? No, nobody would buy Switch for browser and Netflix, but for sure having those would count as additional incentive at the end of the day.
Not having them bring negative vibe.
Question is how much value there is to add to this thing with stuff everybody already owns on other devices. They'd also have to compromise part of the RAM for App stuff, I don't know if Nintendo wants to do that. I could see Nintengo going very Nintendo and saying this is a device for gaming and not much else, like how when the Wii couldn't play DVDs. Maybe they're going the Kindle e-Reader approach. Do one thing but do it really well. I still expect stuff like the Nintendo Anime Channel and Netflix at some point down the road to appear here, but it won't be like the Google Play Store. It will be a "Nintendo-like solution" lol.
I mean, why didn't Nintendo show video or even touch screen capabilities in the reveal trailer if it was so obvious that the kickstand was meant for media consumption? I could see them being really focused on gaming.
Anyway, just to make that clear, I wouldn't mind some media Apps.
Seasons of Heaven teaser trailer
That did nothing for me but the visuals are nice. Full trailer arrives on December 19.
That did nothing for me but the visuals are nice. Full trailer arrives on December 19.
Services like Netflix rely on being basically ubiquitous. It's not the same as a publisher taking a 'wait and see' approach because they want to get a return on their investment in development etc. Netflix is already developed and their users expect to see it on every device that connects to a TV. It would require minimal effort to get an app working on any device that can use html 5 anyway.
KratosEnergyDrink
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Always online with companion phone.
Though Switch won't be an iPad mini killer, apps would definitely add value to the console. I don't watch series in the train on my iPad (too big), nor on my phone (too small). The Switch screen size would be ideal, as long as Netflix also includes the offline feature.
Sharing connection is a standard feature. What else could Vern mean? I'm asking because I'm still surprised there's no camera on Switch, and I was thinking they could streamline a smartphone camera/switch easy link. I wonder if there could me more links like that. Some might say streetpass could be done through the phone, but I don't believe it. Nintendo would certainly prefer people to bring their Switch wherever they go, creating opportunities to show the system to other people. So what more links between smartphones and Switch could we think of?
Do you use the browser on your Xbox One by any chance? Sure, when it's in handheld mode that's another story. As amazing as the browser on the Wii U was, I used it for well over 500h before the Chromecast came out, I'm not sure Nintendo will do it. I know I wouldn't use it at least.
We'll see if it will be there at the start. I kinda doubt it tbh.
You can get some dirt cheap Android tablets for that. DIRT CHEAP.
So tethering? Because that's a feature of the phone, not of Switch. Or what do you mean by that?
Which was my point.
I don't have a Xbone, so no. But I used the browser on Wii U quite often at the time when there was still something to play on it. I gave the example of Xenoblade X, because that was a real use, even on the big screen. Instead of picking up the phone or changing the input to the PC I just paused the game and switched to Wii U browser to check for hints and things like that.
I also used the Wii U browser on the gamepad quite often.
And the point is that Switch is a handheld too, so apps are a plus for that.
The point is to make Switch THE device to carry around beside your phone (because it won't replace the phone), not to have other devices that compete with it because it lack basic features.
Yeah sorry I must have deleted the "Exactly" at the start of my post. Was basically agreeing with you
Netflix want their content in your face and to maintain their ubiquitous market presence. If it uses html 5, it will be on it day one.
KratosEnergyDrink
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Yup. It doesn't add up and I don't know why anyone is even entertaining the idea tbh. Occam's Razor springs to mind.
Looks great. Not much talk about, though.
Switch will most likely have apps. But most of them won't be run alongside with games except for a very few ones that Nintendo has built in to the OS.
So in other words you need to exit the game you are playing to start an app and it shouldn't be in multitasking at all. I'm thinking that if the 800MB for the OS is true I can see Nintendo limiting apps to probably 256MB while the OS uses the rest
So in other words you need to exit the game you are playing to start an app and it shouldn't be in multitasking at all. I'm thinking that if the 800MB for the OS is true I can see Nintendo limiting apps to probably 256MB while the OS uses the rest
But switching to the browser was so sloooooooow. It's much faster to just grab my phone and look it up there instead for me.
And I think this:
is a complete misread of the situation at hand imo. If Nintendo wants to go down that route they'll have to care about things Nintendo wants no business of. How good is the screen resolution, how long is the battery life how many apps are on the thing etc. It stops being about the games and starts being about tech at that point. Nintendo can't and doesn't want to compete with cheap Android tablet manufacturers, with the Google Play Store, let alone with the iPad.
I could see a Nintendo book app for selling comics to kids for instance, I don't see people having their documents from work on Switch.
I doubt they would not have a Netflix app at launch, that would be just sad. I'm very doubtful for now about apps in general though, e.g. whether it will have Sky.
Miiverse is way better than Twitter and actually moderated. I got a post (wrongly and quickly reversed) pulled for saying "jerk". The last thing Nintendo wants is that cesspool.
I'm actually hoping for some kind of Miiverse/Miitomo/Mii Plaza hybrid
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