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No Man's Sky |OT2| Maths Effect
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Oppo
Member
i can see some sort of friends list teleport thing coming. i have a wild hunch that they will try to appease naysayers with an actual pseudo-multi patch. They've laid the groundwork for NPCs but they are static. Yet ships land at your base. So at some point they might start walking around. For "multi" it might be as simple as teleport option for your/friends base to check it out. Or they might even do a little actual instance so you can wave hi or whatever. no one actually wants to explore the galaxy in tandem, it would be super tedious if you think it through. constantly splitting up and managing inventories and then what's the point. but i could see asynchronous features for sure.
ps haven't touched freighters or even automated miners yet cause it sounds a bit tedious.
pps i fixed the ship spawn point with strategically placed half wall pavement bricks
I found a a nice planet in survival. Sure, the sentinels were more aggressive but only if you mine stuff, they're just keeping it looking nice
. Also, some planets have hazards but they're not too bad. Where I am now it's a little chilly at night and there's the occasional storm, but that just keeps it interesting, lol. Now I've explored the area around my base I'm starting to be able to move further, even at night. I know where all the shelters are, or caves if I'm desperate. I like the fact that my exploring now has this purpose. My problem with Normal is not just that it's easier, but because I maxed everything out pre-Foundation, I can't find any reward there.
Oppo
Member
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1264044
i don't think accessibility settings translates to remote play. a shame
Yes the contents of the storage container will be there if you build the container again.
Man my homeplanet is shit, but full of ridogen
SwiftDeath
Member
Is anyone else annoyed by how comically large storage containers are?
Like I've built four and have to do run around to even access them all.
They don't even hold enough to be that big imo
Each container slot can hold double what a slot on my ship can hold but maxes out at 5 slots (10 ship slots) whereas my ship which is maybe half the size of a storage container by volume has 22 ship slots
I have to tell myself that I paid 1M units for my ship, spent like 50 iron and 100 antium making the storage container so it's just a DIY storage system and that's why it sucks in comparison size-wise but I'd much rather a bunch of smaller containers that I could stack and access all at once then this current solution, require the same resources, limit the same absolute storage but let me spread it out better or something
Like I've built four and have to do run around to even access them all.
They don't even hold enough to be that big imo
Each container slot can hold double what a slot on my ship can hold but maxes out at 5 slots (10 ship slots) whereas my ship which is maybe half the size of a storage container by volume has 22 ship slots
I have to tell myself that I paid 1M units for my ship, spent like 50 iron and 100 antium making the storage container so it's just a DIY storage system and that's why it sucks in comparison size-wise but I'd much rather a bunch of smaller containers that I could stack and access all at once then this current solution, require the same resources, limit the same absolute storage but let me spread it out better or something
Atomic Playboy
Member
Agreed. It should be a single vault with a single terminal and you can add more storage containers to increase the overall capacity of that single vault. That way you could also make them into a cube to take up less overall footprint but still have them easily accessible. The way it's done now is also super-confusing, even with color-coding, because is this yellow container for iron, or is it for titanium and zinc? Half the stuff you can find seems to be blue or green, so that's not hugely helpful. A single access point gets rid of that hassle while still requiring you to build more storage units to increase your storage capacity.
So I finally got a farm up and running this morning. Only played for a few minutes, but I'd already put together a room (with grass clipping through the floor, unfortunately), and I've been collecting resources so almost all of the quests were a simple matter of "yeah, I've got some lying around." Now I have 30ish Mordite plants, and I'll build more as soon as I restock my Zinc since I went through the entirety of it building hydroponic stations. Time to start printing money amidst other exploring.
Rigogen sucks. I've only found ONE planet with it and it has huge fuck-off sharks swimming around. I was swimming around in the dark occasionally checking my visor when a green dot starts creeping up around the edge of an undersea ridge. School of harmless jellyfish... nope, that's a 15 foot shark. And it's fast. It takes all of half a second to kill the fuckers, but sharks are easily my biggest phobia, and videogame sharks are the one place where I always draw the line. I swam to the surface, jetpacked out of there, got in my ship and took off, touched down at the space station, and teleported back to my home planet 60,000 light years away. No thank you space shark. Not today.
noonespecial
Member
LOL. And some people call this game boring...
I just want glass..... lol I spent 3 hours warping around trying to find a weapon specialist and now I'm trying to find venom sacs which is proving to be rather difficult. I'm hoping to actually start building my base soon once I can make glass and right now I have all my specialists stuffed in a tiny cube in the middle of the field and they're probably not happy lol.
It's also cool when you build it kills the grass underneath but if you remove the building piece the grass is still dead but eventually grows back, I thought that was a nice little touch.
It's also cool when you build it kills the grass underneath but if you remove the building piece the grass is still dead but eventually grows back, I thought that was a nice little touch.
Atomic Playboy
Member
I ended up buying venom sac off a trader in a space station. Way easier than jumping systems trying to find the stuff.
valkillmore
Member
This is hilarious. You use the poop element to fertilize your crops. That is outstanding lmao
Post a pic when you find the perfect one and build.
Trying to figure out how do get internal doors and google keeps directing me to myself asking the question lol.
My base is coming along. Rigogen is my next big get, but I am prepared.
*Annoying base bug. Every time I come back to my base the main tower is blocked off. I have to open up the build menu or go around to get to the second floor and beyond.
My base is coming along. Rigogen is my next big get, but I am prepared.
You can grow venom sacks pretty early in the farming quest chain.
*Annoying base bug. Every time I come back to my base the main tower is blocked off. I have to open up the build menu or go around to get to the second floor and beyond.
Wintermoon in my starter system would've made a lovely snowbase.Post a pic when you find the perfect one and build.
I really do wish I could plot a course back. Come on better mapping/navigation!
BreezyLimbo
Banned
My starter planet (Post foundation) was actually like yours-
I did not see the option to build a base though.
Do we know if there's habitable bases on every planet, even if you have to scan for them? I've scanned planets before from orbit and no habitable bases were detected, but when landing on the planet and using a signal scanner I was able to find one.
Just curious.
eyeball_kid
Member
I was on a planet last night barren of planets, but had a few creatures. I found a small four-legged creature who was hovering above the surface with wings. I know others have seen this before, but it was pretty cool. I wish there was more diversity of movement in creatures like this.
So you're saying you've been able to pull off the Foundation drift move? How?
(And I think they should move thruster boost to the thruster, triggered by full downpress..that way there's only one button for thrusters, and frees up a button/finger for other stuff)
Yeah, this is more so because the ships aren't realistic at all. Their ship system currently assumes an X-Wing can hold as much cargo as the Millennium Falcon. I don't have a problem with the base container sizes, they look realistic. It's the ships that are the problem.
To be fair, the ground combat is pretty boring. Feels clunky, enemy AI is really shallow, and the lack of projectile weapons (aside from grenades) reduces tactical options and feeling of kinetic movement. The tension of dangerous situations is there, but how we (and enemies) are able to deal with those situations falls short right now.
So you're saying you've been able to pull off the Foundation drift move? How?
(And I think they should move thruster boost to the thruster, triggered by full downpress..that way there's only one button for thrusters, and frees up a button/finger for other stuff)
Yeah, this is more so because the ships aren't realistic at all. Their ship system currently assumes an X-Wing can hold as much cargo as the Millennium Falcon. I don't have a problem with the base container sizes, they look realistic. It's the ships that are the problem.
To be fair, the ground combat is pretty boring. Feels clunky, enemy AI is really shallow, and the lack of projectile weapons (aside from grenades) reduces tactical options and feeling of kinetic movement. The tension of dangerous situations is there, but how we (and enemies) are able to deal with those situations falls short right now.
Gnome Scat
Member
Getting myself a PS4 this Christmas and despite some of the bad rep this game has gotten, it still interests me. Is it worth a pick up considering there will be continued support of the title?
noonespecial
Member
I bought it at full price and I don't complain at all. Considering the cheaper price nowadays, and if you know what you're getting for that money, I don't see a problem.
eyeball_kid
Member
Yes, I know and I agree. I was just being a tad ridiculous.
Yeah I know.
I was just imagining the scene Atomic Playboy was setting with that shark, and then line "even though it only takes me a half a second to kill it" was kind of a mood killer because it's true. TBH though I don't think they'll ever do much with ground combat from where it's at today. And that's fine, games can't be amazing at everything, especially with a small team like this. But I hope they can improve the enemy AI at least, get some flanking maneuvers going, and also give us some other kind of defensive options since we have no cover system.Ballistics
Member
Saying that, I don't know if it was any different before. I don't know if it's drift, but while thrusting you can use reverse thrust at the same time. It could have always been there.
I thought I was already on 1.12? Weird.
You probably were. The patch notes are typically late.
eyeball_kid
Member
No, by drift move this is what I was I was referring to. It was in the Foundation patch notes. It sounds like a powerslide/drift move for the ships:
noonespecial
Member
Yeah I know.
Yes. In my dreams I imagine:
-Running into an alien hunter (or a group of hunters) that are going after a rare, but dangerous animal on the planet. You can team up with them or try to find the rare creature yourself.
-The rare creature doesn't just make a beeline straight at you but hunts you instead, doesn't die too quickly and will run away if it takes too much damage.
-You could run into a pack of predators that hunt you like a pack of wolves or like the raptor dinosaurs from Jurassic Park ("Clever girl").
-Maybe you cannot be friendly with all alien factions. If you are friends with the Gek then the other aliens hate you as an example. The alien race(s) that hates you may hire bounty hunters to go after you and they will attack you on a planet too. Maybe even a team of bounty hunters too!
-If they added aliens running around on planets then perhaps there could be quests of sorts such as a mining company that wants you to hunt down and kill a dangerous predator that keeps attacking their miners.
Just a few ideas off the top of my head. I'm sure any of us could come up with a ton of ideas.
eyeball_kid
Member
Yeah, remember when Sean shot the ground in that IGN preview and scared away an aggressive animal? I've never been able to replicate that. Violent creatures seem to have no survival instinct, they just charge until they're dead. There's a lot they could do with AI to make creatures feel distinct from each other and a bit more lifelike (and challenging).
A bounty hunter system always seemed like a natural fit to me because both ground and space environments could come into play. Having a generalized job system, you could end up either being hunted by one, or accepting missions yourself to hunt others. Of course a lot of work would need to be done with the NPCs first since they're so static right now.
Violent creatures do seem to get scared away, but never for very long. They sort of run away a bit and then turn back round and chase you again.
To be honest the Foundation update has done very little to flora and fauna. But then it's supposedly called the 'Foundation' update for a reason, so I'm fairly confident that this'll be updated on an ongoing basis. Fauna seems quite a way behind some other parts of the game now.
R_thanatos
Member
Oh it's fixed ? i encountered that Twice and was very annoyed , especially since both were in the middle of the ocean at more than 10 mins of distance from the shore.
FINALLY
eyeball_kid
Member
So is the Pearl base quest only available on planets with water or something? I've asked for the spot twice from the questgiver and nothing shows up on my map.
That happened to me the other night, same freighter even. The only thing I could think is that I accidentally shot them after destroying all the pirates, and put it into a weird state. I saved the same ship from a second round of pirates and didn't even get an invite.
whaaaaa. I did a freighter rescue and got the signal to go aboard for a reward but the beams are red and the doors are closed....
let me in
That happened to me the other night, same freighter even. The only thing I could think is that I accidentally shot them after destroying all the pirates, and put it into a weird state. I saved the same ship from a second round of pirates and didn't even get an invite.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Nope, I eventually did it from a freighter and got the pearl from a planet with no water at all.
noonespecial
Member
whaaaaa. I did a freighter rescue and got the signal to go aboard for a reward but the beams are red and the doors are closed....
let me in
I've got a screenshot I can upload sometime but after saving a freighter from pirates I also encountered a situation where they remained in red alert. The screenshot I took shows a very small black cloud undernearh the freighter and in the cloud was a very small ship - possibly a pirate. The black cloud and the "ship" were just hanging out and were not moving and I could fly right through them. My guess is that the freighter still thinks that they are under attack. Was a pity because I wanted to buy that freighter...
eyeball_kid
Member
Hmm, you should probably send that to Hello, that could be useful in narrowing down the bug, if they even know about it. I bet that's what happened to me also.
I've made over 3 mil now (after buying my freighter) without leaving the system or touching down on a planet. But to end this self-imposed exile to the skies I need to build one more upgrade which I need 50 nickel for and no one is selling it and there are no nickel asteroids. I don't want to concede defeat! Why won't someone pick up some damn nickel! I know it's in at least one of the planets here.
OuterLimits
Member
They really nerfed the jetpack. Especially when using the melee jetpack trick. Even with a sigma upgrade, it doesn't seem to last any longer than no upgrade. Granted, on Survival it uses life support quickly, but since I have a bunch of thamium, I wasn't concerned about the depletion.
They also need to fix the storm alerts. Storms always start before I'm even alerted. Half of my hazard protection is quickly gone in Survival and then I hear the message "Weather alert, Incoming storm" The storm already started and depleted most of my protection in a few seconds but thanks for letting me know a storm was on the way.
They also need to fix the storm alerts. Storms always start before I'm even alerted. Half of my hazard protection is quickly gone in Survival and then I hear the message "Weather alert, Incoming storm" The storm already started and depleted most of my protection in a few seconds but thanks for letting me know a storm was on the way.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
eyeball_kid
Member
They did nerf the jetpack and the upgrades, but honestly it was a bit overpowered before. Plus, the dune buggy will probably fit that more long distance travel option.
Well, the environment does let you know about the storm at least -- .the wind starts kicking up a few seconds before the alert. But I agree it should be more accurate.
Shit, I thought I noticed something with the jetpack. I used to love gliding barely above the land but with mega forward thrust, and it seems it's cut in half now.
I might submit a bug report on it.
I might submit a bug report on it.
And even though you can't *see* weather in your ship, at least you can hear rain on your cabin when there's a thunderstorm.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
I wonder how the Dune Buggy will operate
Will you call it from your freighter and it'll just launch a pod with the buggy? That'd be a cool visual. 'Estimated time of arrival-5 minutes from now'. That'd be immersive as fuck.
Someone give me a link to the feedback/suggestion email for them. I wanna send this in lol
Will you call it from your freighter and it'll just launch a pod with the buggy? That'd be a cool visual. 'Estimated time of arrival-5 minutes from now'. That'd be immersive as fuck.
Someone give me a link to the feedback/suggestion email for them. I wanna send this in lol
WordAssassin
Member
Gotta nerf the jetpack to make people want to use the buggie
I hope you just build it like any other piece of tech. 100 iron, 50 plutonium or something. Then just ride it around.
The garage suggests something more permanent though. But it'll be much less effective if you are restricted to your home planet. Also it takes ages to get a freighter in survival, where it would be most useful, so you better not need a freighter, lol.
OuterLimits
Member
I agree it may have been overpowered, but not only did they significantly reduce its longevity, but also added a rather severe life support penalty for using it. So, I think leaving it as before would have been fine with the new life support penalty. People still would have been selective about when they use it, especially in Survival mode if low on resources. Yes, they may indeed eventually add land vehicles, but that doesn't help now. Nerf the jetpack when they actually release a land vehicle.
Yeah, I usually notice the storm starting, but occasionally I may be doing something in my inventory and not be paying close attention until the storm warning is announced.
eyeball_kid
Member
Probably it'll go in the base garage? It'd be cool if they came out of your ship like Elite, but that doesn't really work with our ship sizes.
Their feedback address: feedback@hellogames.co.uk
Yeah, fair enough if you're doing Survival, I was just speaking of the normal mode.
Oppo
Member
i'm much more concerned about the lack of seeing storms in the air. that really needs fixing.