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Is discussion of this topic allowed? Pretty big info dump from the "mainstream" media with all sorts of serious and criminal accusations being fired off, seems he's been a very naughty boy
 

FunkMiller

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Nah. He’s a cunt. Well documented how much of a piece of shit towards women he is, and the reporters responsible for this story are very good at what they do.

The only reason he became a far right wing mouthpiece is because he knew this was coming, and wanted to establish a nice big conspiracy believing fan base who’ll believe anything he says. He’s very good at manipulating people who are either naive or stupid.
 
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LiquidMetal14

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He's grown on me.

And you have to have a good balance and certainly if you get a lot of your media consumption on TV then you are quite blind. You have to go to the Internet, youtube, or whatever source other than mainstream television, to get your information.

And honestly the more voices you have echoing things that are hopefully grounded in some fact, the more you can make an assessed and educated decision versus being told how to think.
 

FunkMiller

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He's grown on me.

And you have to have a good balance and certainly if you get a lot of your media consumption on TV then you are quite blind. You have to go to the Internet, youtube, or whatever source other than mainstream television, to get your information.

And honestly the more voices you have echoing things that are hopefully grounded in some fact, the more you can make an assessed and educated decision versus being told how to think.

No. You have to go to multiple sources - whatever the delivery method - and seek independent, verifiable evidence. Mainstream TV lies or tells the truth no more or less than the internet or YouTube.

The problem doesn't come with where you go to for your information. The problem comes with not taking the time and effort to research a subject properly, by seeking out actual experts in whatever field it is you're researching.

Brand's entire career relies on people watching his egregious, transparent bullshit on YouTube, and doing no other due diligence whatsoever.
 
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LiquidMetal14

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No. You have to go to multiple sources - whatever the delivery method - with independent, verifiable evidence. Mainstream TV lies or tells the truth no more or less than the internet or YouTube.

The problem doesn't come with where you go to for your information. The problem comes with not taking the time and effort to research a subject properly.

Brand's entire career relies on people watching his egregious, transparent bullshit on YouTube, and doing no other due diligence whatsoever.
I don't know anything about that kind of stuff and honestly, think about this, and realize that I'm not disagreeing with you.

Most people simply don't have time and allow me to put myself in that position. I have two children under 5 years old in the middle of my life and I definitely don't get my information from the mainstream on television. But regardless of whatever you get, you should pull from the buffet of information you have at your disposal in these days. And that means listening to a bit of both sides but Russell is just one of a lot of sources and I don't necessarily watch him all the time and often skip through his content but he has some stuff every once in awhile that I want to listen to just like anywhere else.

I'm not a career politician and want the world to be better, but I'm also not the one that has the time or the drive to make that change. I'm simply the person you might talk to everyday that agrees with you but unfortunately we all know we're in a position where we are just one person and don't have the energy or strength to follow those ambitions.

So in so many words, I know exactly what I said and why I said it. But there is a lot more Nuance than just me giving a simple statement. But at the end of the day, I agree with you more than not.
 

FunkMiller

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I don't know anything about that kind of stuff and honestly, think about this, and realize that I'm not disagreeing with you.

Most people simply don't have time and allow me to put myself in that position. I have two children under 5 years old in the middle of my life and I definitely don't get my information from the mainstream on television. But regardless of whatever you get, you should pull from the buffet of information you have at your disposal in these days. And that means listening to a bit of both sides but Russell is just one of a lot of sources and I don't necessarily watch him all the time and often skip through his content but he has some stuff every once in awhile that I want to listen to just like anywhere else.

I'm not a career politician and want the world to be better, but I'm also not the one that has the time or the drive to make that change. I'm simply the person you might talk to everyday that agrees with you but unfortunately we all know we're in a position where we are just one person and don't have the energy or strength to follow those ambitions.

So in so many words, I know exactly what I said and why I said it. But there is a lot more Nuance than just me giving a simple statement. But at the end of the day, I agree with you more than not.

Okay, so if you don't have the time to look into something because you're too busy, that's fair enough - then don't just believe the fucking manipulative cunt talking to you on YouTube.

And Brand is not a 'source' or an expert on anything. He parrots the same old tired conspiracy claptrap so many other do, and he relies on you not looking into the subject he's talking about properly.
 
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Lunarorbit

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Dude always seemed like a scumbag. Even in saving Sarah Marshall he was a little too believable in that role.

So now he dabbles in conspiracy theories? Why do young men follow him and Andrew tate? These guys are pathetic losers
 

6502

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I don't like the man, so therefore I am all for this and wholesale change in my views on justice.

Why do we waste money on a justice system when the media can convict the 'clearly guilty' in a single headline at much lower cost?

Trial by twitter is also much better than a jury as we can all have a say without having to compare evidence against charges.

This does mean though that Elon Musk, Zuckerberg and Murdock become the supreme court so to be fair we should go further and jail people off anonomous tip offs.
 
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CGNoire

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“Why are the scummy shitbag rapists who align with my politics so persecuted?!?!?!”
I dont have to even know what his politics are to come to that conclusion. Just that there controversal to one side. I dont know if you realised this but these rape allegations are a bi-partisan tool used by both sides.
 

CGNoire

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I don't like the man, so therefore I am all for this and wholesale change in my views on justice.

Why do we waste money on a justice system when the media can convict the 'clearly guilty' in a single headline at much lower cost?

Trial by twitter is also much better than a jury as we can all have a say without having to compare evidence against charges.

This does mean though that Elon Must, Zuckerberg and Murdock become the supreme court so to be fair we should go further and jail people off anonomous tip offs.
This x100. Threads like this are always pollutted by the "I always knew it crowd". Shits disheartening.
 

FunkMiller

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How many of you actually watched the show, or read the article?

Because the amount of evidence that's been collected rivals that of the evidence against Jimmy Saville - and we all know how that turned out.

This isn't an isolated incident. This a three year investigation, involving multiple women, over multiple years, across multiple tv shows and channels, with evidence that has been seen by the investigative reporters.

You don't broadcast shit like this unless you are very sure that what you are saying is right, given how much you'd open yourself up to litigation otherwise.
 
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I dont have to even know what his politics are to come to that conclusion. Just that there controversal to one side. I dont know if you realised this but these rape allegations are a bi-partisan tool used by both sides.
It’s more that the “everybody is wrong and fucked up but me” types whose whole brand is just that, tend to be wrong and fucked up about everything.
 

Chittagong

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Just because people are lazy, here is a very small snippet

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CGNoire

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Just because people are lazy, here is a very small snippet

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Are accusations supossed to equal proof now. Jesus Christ even NPR had the woman reading these line while scary music played in the background....you know like in those negative political attack ads where the "Bad Politician" s shown using a "negative filter" to make them look sickly. Why is this type of reporting considered trust worthy is the real question?
 

FunkMiller

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Are accusations supossed to equal proof now. Jesus Christ even NPR had the woman reading these line while scary music played in the background....you know like in those negative political attack ads where the "Bad Politician" s shown using a "negative filter" to make them look sickly. Why is this type of reporting considered trust worthy is the real question?

You’ve shown your colossal ignorance over this entire thing… but you’re still doubling down?

Why would all those women, who don’t know each other, and worked with Brand right across his TV career get together and lie about what happened to them?

Why would a celebrated and well regarded investigative team publish all of this information, if they weren’t sure it was very compelling and well evidenced?
 
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You’ve shown your colossal ignorance over this entire thing… but you’re still doubling down?

Why would all those women, who don’t know each other, and worked with Brand right across his TV career get together and lie about what happened to them?

Why would a celebrated and well regarded investigative team publish all of this evidence, if they weren’t sure it was very compelling and well evidenced?
Well the matrix and dissent red pills and agent smith obviously
 

CGNoire

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You’ve shown your colossal ignorance over this entire thing… but you’re still doubling down?

Why would all those women, who don’t know each other, and worked with Brand right across his TV career get together and lie about what happened to them?

Why would a celebrated and well regarded investigative team publish all of this evidence, if they didn’t know it was very compelling?
Case closed then. There really nothing to discuss anymore. Lets lock him and go home. This new jury by social media approach is definitly not gonna backfire. Guilty untill proven innocent is definitly the way to go. My bad.
 

FunkMiller

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Case closed then. They’re really nothing to discuss anymore. Let’s lock him and go home. This new jury by social media approach is definitly not gonna backfire. Guilty untill proven innocent is definitly the way to go. My bad.

Nice dodge.

Go away and actually look at the individual circumstances of this particular case… instead of knee jerking into a reaction because Brand’s politics/opinions align with yours.
 
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Case closed then. There really nothing to discuss anymore. Lets lock him and go home. This new jury by social media approach is definitly not gonna backfire. Guilty untill proven innocent is definitly the way to go. My bad.
You’re embarrassing yourself
 

CGNoire

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Nice dodge.

Go away and actually look at the individual circumstances of this particular case… instead of knee jerking into a reaction because Brand’s politics/opinions align with yours.
Dodge what? The accusations? Ok i dont find accusations no matter how emotionaly provacative to equal proof.

Im a liberal by the way who has read the current state of US politics and realised awhile ago that for both sides in the country escecially since 2016 "The ends always justifiy the means" Im not saying he is innocent. What I am saying is I dont know and neither do yall. This isnt the smoking gun you all keep acting like it is.
 

sono

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After reading this thread and then reading up it seems the Sunday times and some other media group companies have done an investigation outside of the police with 4 unnamed women into allegations of events several years ago.

Whether the allegations are true or not my initial reaction is that it seems odd that the media would publish ahead of any formal proceedings imho.

Brand denies any wrong doing.
 
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Dr_Salt

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So he became a demon and his eyes all turned black. Lmao what kind of article is that. I don't like Brand and never cared about his content but how do you want people to take you seriously with that kind of article.
 

Clear

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Innocent until proven guilty

True, but the parallels between Brand and Saville are very hard to ignore.

His bad reputation stretches back years as has his penchant for aggressively suppressing criticism through threats of litigation.
 

NikuNashi

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Innocent until proven guilty

Not according to some on here. Anybody with an accusation who sits in a shadowy room with their identity hidden is to be trusted without question.

Like somebody else said, at least I won't be called up for jury anymore, the media and twitter can do a better job than the traditional law methods that underpin society.

Oh and for reference, I think brand is an arrogant cock, always have however I wait for due legal process before convicting someone.
 

Wildebeest

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If the media don't report on this sort of thing, it's a conspiracy because they are all in a secret pervert club. If they do report on this sort of thing, it is because it is a conspiracy, because they are all in some sort of secret anti conspiracy club.
 

nush

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Another #metoo smear. Read the story in the paper and it hits all the bingo points. Just the slightest pulling of the threads and the accusations are not really clear cut as the headlines.

Now, this is a direct quote from the paper in front of me “ A woman who Dispatches called “Nadia” told how she visited the star at his home in the early hours of July 1, 2012”

So what the fuck where you doing visiting him at that time, you know past midnight but not “the morning”? It’s in my opinion a bunch of star fucker groupies trying to cash in and the media corralling them to silence Brand.
 

Eotheod

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He's a douchebag, what else do we need to discuss? Famous man makes a fool of himself and gets rewarded for it, wish I was capable of selling my soul for grifting.

Doesn't matter what the current spin is, what agenda is behind it or what any camps want to break apart and "find the strings pulling the big bad machine." Drongo is a right tosser and deserves a thong up the side of the head.
 
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Neff

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Always thought he was a fucking prick even before the creepy predator stuff started coming to light in the mid '00s, so the existence of a concise and damning collection of evidence isn't remotely surprising to me. Everything about the guy feels dishonest.
 

Tams

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He's a smarmy, dirty, creepy, recently idiotic conspiracy nut of a douchebag.

The real issue here seems to be responsibility and people taking it.

Why, as a woman, let yourself be alone in a room or even building with a person like this? Were you not taught even the most basic of critical thinking?!

Of course, if you go on about personal responsibility, you get the clowns saying 'so what you're saying is that women wearing short skirts are asking to be raped'.

Why can't people just take personal responsibility and use some critical thinking?!
 
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Dr.Morris79

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Nah. He’s a cunt. Well documented how much of a piece of shit towards women he is, and the reporters responsible for this story are very good at what they do.

The only reason he became a far right wing mouthpiece is because he knew this was coming, and wanted to establish a nice big conspiracy believing fan base who’ll believe anything he says. He’s very good at manipulating people who are either naive or stupid.
Let’s just say I’m not surprised a scummy con man is also a scumbag to women
I see the court of ResetEra is in full swing..

Just see how it pans out before throwing shit around.
 
True, but the parallels between Brand and Saville are very hard to ignore.

His bad reputation stretches back years as has his penchant for aggressively suppressing criticism through threats of litigation.
Kevin Spacey got acquitted after a few years of dragging him through the twitter dirt. You people should really relax with your pitchforks, just because you dont like the guy or his views, doesnt mean what some chick said is 100% true. Its embarrassing.

Reding this thread, 95% of comments start with "i never liked this guy", then they double down on the belief of rape.
 
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I see the court of ResetEra is in full swing..

Just see how it pans out before throwing shit around.
Oh fuck off, if the texts they presented are fake then he’s got an easy case in court for libel. If I had to bet on a: reporters faked the texts and exposed themselves to easy litigation or b: Brand is the scumbag we all know he is, I’m taking b
 
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jason10mm

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Accusations of Rape seem to be the goto tactic in the 21st century when it comes to silencing political desenters.
It's the newest version of "might be a communist", "may have drug paraphernalia", or "possible child porn found on a computer" used to isolate someone from any public support.

Look at what they are doing to Ashton and Mila for the gall to writer a letter for a friend
 
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