Eggplant Wizard
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Well by co-developed, I meant Nintendo probably oversees it. Isn't Intelligent Systems a 2nd party or am I mistaken?
IntSys is first party.
Well by co-developed, I meant Nintendo probably oversees it. Isn't Intelligent Systems a 2nd party or am I mistaken?
Well by co-developed, I meant Nintendo probably oversees it. Isn't Intelligent Systems a 2nd party or am I mistaken?
Well by co-developed, I meant Nintendo probably oversees it. Isn't Intelligent Systems a 2nd party or am I mistaken?
IntSys is first party.
mistaken.
Letting the fanboys get the better of them.
No seriously, with no direct pressure for their actions, they'll continue to pull this crap. The fact a mainline Pokemon is releasing 2 years into a next gen handheld's life and not on it is downright pathetic.
And I don't care how many DS owners there are, your fault for not making the upgrade like me.
:[Okay, now Nintendo's just trolling. At around the one minute mark in the crosswords game they have a list of words which include Earthbound
They are first party.Well by co-developed, I meant Nintendo probably oversees it. Isn't Intelligent Systems a 2nd party or am I mistaken?
Any chance that nintendo will announce a game at the september event and release it 3 months later like they did with monster hunter?
Any chance that nintendo will announce a game at the september event and release it 3 months later like they did with monster hunter?
Still, the large majority of Nintendo published titles aren't first party developed.
So, I tried to research for this list. Let me know about any errors.
Fully developed by internal studios:
-Nintendogs+cats
-Super Mario 3D Land
-Mario Kart 7
-Animal Crossing: Jump Out
-New Super Mario Bros. 2 (not regular team, developed by newbie team)
-Fire Emblem: Awakening
Developed/Co-developed by external studios:
-Star Fox 64 3D
-Ocarina of Time 3D
-Kid Icarus Uprising
-Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon
-Freakyforms: Your Creations, Alive!
-LEGO City: Undercover
-Mario Tennis Open (Wiki mentions Camelot as a 2nd party)
-Pilotwings Resort
-Pokémon Rumble Blast
-Spirit Camera: Cursed Memoir
-Steel Diver
-Super Smash Bros. 3DS
So, I tried to research for this list. Let me know about any errors.
Fully developed by internal studios:
-Nintendogs+cats
-Super Mario 3D Land
-Mario Kart 7
-Animal Crossing: Jump Out
-New Super Mario Bros. 2 (not regular team, developed by newbie team)
-Fire Emblem: Awakening
Developed/Co-developed by external studios:
-Star Fox 64 3D
-Ocarina of Time 3D
-Kid Icarus Uprising
-Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon
-Freakyforms: Your Creations, Alive!
-LEGO City: Undercover
-Mario Tennis Open (Wiki mentions Camelot as a 2nd party)
-Pilotwings Resort
-Pokémon Rumble Blast
-Spirit Camera: Cursed Memoir
-Steel Diver
-Super Smash Bros. 3DS
Wow, that is quite a barren lineup for the rest of the year. Only Layton and Paper Mario are that interesting, and if I'm really stretching for interest, maybe Scribblenauts and Epic Mickey. It looks like my 3DS purchase is going to wait until next year if this is all they have to offer. The XL announcement got me pumped to get one, but I don't know after this.
I'm actually kind of shocked at how little decent software is coming out for 3DS this year after seeing it all in one big list. Once you remove all of the shallow children-focused games, I struggle to count on one hand with the games that are innovative, deep, or charming enough to appeal to me. As dire as people are about the lineup on Vita, at least there I can get counting onto a second hand without much effort.
I hope Nintendo makes good on releasing some more substantial titles in 2013
Luigi delayed... sigh. Paper Mario will have to suffice, but I don't understand why its so hard to release a game on time.
Where is Slime Mori Mori 3?Where is Dragon Quest Monsters Terrys Wonderland?
So, I tried to research for this list. Let me know about any errors.
Fully developed by internal studios:
-Nintendogs+cats
-Super Mario 3D Land
-Mario Kart 7
-Animal Crossing: Jump Out
-New Super Mario Bros. 2 (not regular team, developed by newbie team)
-Fire Emblem: Awakening
-Oni Training
Developed/Co-developed by external studios:
-Star Fox 64 3D
-Ocarina of Time 3D
-Kid Icarus Uprising
-Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon
-Freakyforms: Your Creations, Alive!
-LEGO City: Undercover
-Mario Tennis Open (Wiki mentions Camelot as a 2nd party)
-Pilotwings Resort
-Pokémon Rumble Blast
-Spirit Camera: Cursed Memoir
-Steel Diver
-Super Smash Bros. 3DS
So, I tried to research for this list. Let me know about any errors.
Fully developed by internal studios:
-Nintendogs+cats
-Super Mario 3D Land
-Mario Kart 7
-Animal Crossing: Jump Out
-New Super Mario Bros. 2 (not regular team, developed by newbie team)
-Fire Emblem: Awakening
-Oni Training
-Paper Mario: Sticker Star
Developed/Co-developed by external studios:
-Star Fox 64 3D
-Ocarina of Time 3D
-Kid Icarus Uprising
-Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon
-Freakyforms: Your Creations, Alive!
-LEGO City: Undercover
-Mario Tennis Open (Wiki mentions Camelot as a 2nd party)
-Pilotwings Resort
-Pokémon Rumble Blast
-Spirit Camera: Cursed Memoir
-Steel Diver
-Super Smash Bros. 3DS
There doesn't seem to be an overabundance of Wii U software either and production on internal DS titles stopped a long time ago so I just don't understand where their time is being spent...?
Dies Iræ;40992050 said:Longer development cycles for 3DS (~GCN quality) and WiiU titles (720p).
Thanks for answering my question in such a comprehensive fashion!
So by the time Animal Crossing and Fire Emblem land (which will hopefully be Q1 2013) then the 3DS would've been on the market for two years and have only seven internally developed titles on release.
That seems staggering to me for a (relatively) recently launched handheld platform.
At this point in the DS' lifecycle a whole load of Nintendo titles had began rolling out.
There doesn't seem to be an overabundance of Wii U software either and production on internal DS titles stopped a long time ago so I just don't understand where their time is being spent...?
Hmm very true, I hadn't actually considered that.
I mean even NSMB2 which seems to be somewhat of a rushed release still took around about 7 months (I believe the Iwata Asks mentions it beginning development around when 3D Land was releasing).
Thanks for answering my question in such a comprehensive fashion!
So by the time Animal Crossing and Fire Emblem land (which will hopefully be Q1 2013) then the 3DS would've been on the market for two years and have only seven internally developed titles on release.
That seems staggering to me for a (relatively) recently launched handheld platform.
At this point in the DS' lifecycle a whole load of Nintendo titles had began rolling out.
There doesn't seem to be an overabundance of Wii U software either and production on internal DS titles stopped a long time ago so I just don't understand where their time is being spent...?
"A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad."
Like I said in my previous post, it isn't like you can really discount the "external" games as not being Nintendo games. Nintendo still put development funds into them to boost the system's sales and some of them are really essentially internal teams (like Kid Icarus').
If you really want to play the comparison game the DS wasn't that much better off in terms of first-party (which are typically not divided into internal/external anyways).
It had:
- Super Mario 64 DS
- WarioWare: Touched!
- Yoshi Touch & Go
- Kirby: Canvas Curse
- Meteos
- Nintendogs
- Advance Wars: Dual Strike
- Mario Kart DS
- Animal Crossing: Wild World
- Super Princess Peach
- Metroid Prime Hunters
- Tetris DS
- Brain Age
That is what was out in essentially the same time frame as the 3DS. Some were "internal" some were "co-developed". They are all first-party though. There are actually fewer than on 3DS as well though the specific franchises represented could be claimed to have been better on DS. Personally to me it looks like things have actually mostly been the same franchise-wise except Fire Emblem instead of Advance Wars, different mario spin-offs, 2 (new) mario games instead of one (old) remade one (though we have remakes of other things). Metroid is the only thing lacking that doesn't really have a first party replacement...but we did get Kid Icarus which the DS has no real comparison for either.
Fire Emblem = Spirit Camera ?I'm guessing in terms of release dates, Animal Crossing: Jump Out = Kid Icarus Uprising and Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon = Mario Tennis.
First 2 years of 3DS includes Q1 2013. So probably also Fire Emblem and maybe Luigi's Mansionand/or Animal Crossing.Hmm, I'm looking at this list and I think you're missing a bunch of games.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_products_published_by_Nintendo#Nintendo_DS
First 2 years of DS vs. first 2 years of 3DS right? Seems pretty clearcut to me.
Hmm, I'm looking at this list and I think you're missing a bunch of games.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_products_published_by_Nintendo#Nintendo_DS
First 2 years of DS vs. first 2 years of 3DS right? Seems pretty clearcut to me.
Ehh no. I've played a shit ton of crappy delayed games.
Pretty sure Wiki is wrong and Camelot is first party also. They haven't made a single game for a non-Nintendo system in a long long time and Nintendo owns all the IPs they work on, including ones "they" created like Golden Sun. I don't see how they are second party.
Well, it was Miyamoto who said it. I think the point is a delayed game has more time to be fixed if something isn't working, so it's sometimes better to delay and try and fix the game rather than releasing a sub-standard product that will be like that forever.
A quote from a pre-patching world.
Camelot is not owned by Nintendo and so they are not first party. Moreover, they worked on two non-Nintendo games this generation (one of which released, one of which didn't).
Where the fuck are my RPGs at? Besides PM SS, which is double bought.
Precisely.
I'm certain Pikmin 3 and P-100 will receive the same treatment. Wii U needs some games before June 2013.