pinkatrophe
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Barnolde said:
Pot smells just as horrible as smoking.
Non Smokers: How do you look at smokers?
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Pot smells just as horrible as smoking.
Schattenjäger
Gabriel Knight
i only feel like that towards fat people that dont whine and dont pity themselves about it..pixelfish said:
i never met a smoker who cries for pity.
White Man said:
1) A small group babbling about them possibly not being good for you, with the entire general population d oing it saying they're "keen", and tons of proof and in your face evidence that they kill you, is different.
2) Um, no. One can be addicted to exercise, or water, or sex. None of these are bad, in moderation at the least. Smoking is bad for you, period.
3) Um, they're told it's addictive, and it kills you. Being too cokcy and saying "Oh, I can start and quit when I want", without knowing what you're getting in to, is stupid. What else should people be punished for? Choosing NOT to smoke?
ballstategamingking
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of course people should be punished for their poor decisions. That is called life. Most normal people learn this at an early age.
rusty said:
Indeed, this thread is only reaffirming the GAF stereotype as being populated by a bunch of spoiled, sheltered kids.
"I never got addicted to smoking, so everyone who did are weak and filthy."
"I never had any mental problems so anyone who has just needs to snap out of it."
"I never got addicted to alcohol or drugs, so anyone who has just aren't tough enough to say no."
"I never had to file for bankruptcy so everyone who did are sloppy and careless."
"I never got caught drunk driving even though I did it a dozen times, so everyone who has are subhuman criminals who should be shot."
etc.
ballstategamingking
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pixelfish said:
Thats a great point, but you forgot one step, they talk about how they want to quit, bitch and moan, cry for pity, REMOVE OXYGEN MASK, then light one up
I smoke from time to time (twice per week, if I do smoke at all).
And I vote Republican.
Hate me.
I didn't think anyone really had any strong feelings on smoking outside of the medical community and the state of California. Do people really believe everything they are told? Particularly this comment, "kissing a smoker is like kissing an ashtray." That's not a valid comparison.
I just don't see how smoking effects the average non-smoker to illicit such a strong reaction in people. I could understand if a relative died of lung cancer or if people were complaining about health insurance premiums (although cigarettes are already heavily taxed as it is) but no one in this thread has stated either as the reason they dislike smoking. I don't know any smoker who is completely inconsiderate of the people around them (second-hand smoke) and the only people who smell like smoke are people who frequent bars/clubs (non-smokers and smokers alike). With all the restrictions on smoking already in place, I don't see why the average non-smoker should even care.
And I vote Republican.
Hate me.
I didn't think anyone really had any strong feelings on smoking outside of the medical community and the state of California. Do people really believe everything they are told? Particularly this comment, "kissing a smoker is like kissing an ashtray." That's not a valid comparison.
I just don't see how smoking effects the average non-smoker to illicit such a strong reaction in people. I could understand if a relative died of lung cancer or if people were complaining about health insurance premiums (although cigarettes are already heavily taxed as it is) but no one in this thread has stated either as the reason they dislike smoking. I don't know any smoker who is completely inconsiderate of the people around them (second-hand smoke) and the only people who smell like smoke are people who frequent bars/clubs (non-smokers and smokers alike). With all the restrictions on smoking already in place, I don't see why the average non-smoker should even care.
SnakeXs said:
Religions have been out negatively concerning smoking for hundreds of years. And there was evidence it was bad for you, namely the coughing dying people. You REALLY think we didn't know smoking was unhealthy until 20-30 years ago? You think lung cancer is a recent invention?
Point taken, but the healthy activities you describe, when taken to an addiction-like level, would be unhealthy from a mental or social point of view.
My point still stands on this. Should everyone be punished for the poor decisions they make?
Schattenjäger
Gabriel Knight
you forgot to add "I'm not aggressive when it comes to girls so anyone that uses them just for sex and not to be in a loving relationship is a piece of shit'VALIS said:
scissorfight
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Are you a joke character?ballstategamingking said:
'Cause you are making me L fuckin O L! Keep up the good work, champ!
ballstategamingking
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rusty said:
Im really not joking at all.
pinkatrophe
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SnakeXs said:
All of those can be bad lifestyles when you get addicted to them. I don't see how being addicted to any of those can't be bad. Being addicted to exercising can lead to steroid abuse, too much straining of one's body, and other physical damage. Too much sex can obviously lead to STDs (if unchecked) and potentially a damage to one's relationship with the other. And believe it or not, there actually is a thing as water addiction which I remember hearing about on NPR a while ago. It's not like drinking 3 liters of water a day but, rather, several gallons which can create chemical imbalances in your body.
Vinzer Deling
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VALIS said:
QFTMFTGDDIA
This is GAF after all, where shooting the cigar out of a man's mouth with a cruise missile is possible.
Manics said:This made me start smoking:
Ooh, nice. I've wanted to buy them, but haven't had the money when I've had the opportunity to buy them. I usually buy Romeo y Julieta nro 2s. I've found that they have a very nice quality/price ratio (but still I only buy them tax free from cruises).
CabbageRed
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I wish I was amazed at the attitude many are taking against smokers of late. All things considered, it is a negligible issue and a silly thing overwhich to seperate people. I would say that this thread shows that my smoking filters out of the judgemental types who may otherwise end up in my life, however, I've never had my smoking damage a relationship. It no doubt keeps some people from approaching me but I'm none the wiser when it happens and have never had a shortage of non-smoking friends who would prefer no one smoked but overlook the matter since it is such a small matter relative to a good friendship.
In the end, I am to my non-smoking friends what my religious friends are to me: be considerate of our respective lifestyles and how they differ, and everything will go perfectly.
In the end, I am to my non-smoking friends what my religious friends are to me: be considerate of our respective lifestyles and how they differ, and everything will go perfectly.
MomoPufflet
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I don't understand people that don't understand smoking. Why do people get drunk? Why do people have sex? Why do people do anything that has any potential health risk whatsoever? Because it feels good-- it's not rocket science.
That said, I was a light smoker for about 4-5 months, then I quit cold turkey. Smoking is a gross habit, but it IS relaxing, and the buzz you get from a cigarette is nice for the first few months. If smoking carried no health risks would I do it? You bet your sweet ass I would. No better way to end a long day than a good smoke.
That said, I was a light smoker for about 4-5 months, then I quit cold turkey. Smoking is a gross habit, but it IS relaxing, and the buzz you get from a cigarette is nice for the first few months. If smoking carried no health risks would I do it? You bet your sweet ass I would. No better way to end a long day than a good smoke.
cloudwalking
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I can tolerate cigarette smoke pretty well since my mom smoked at home all the time when I lived there. I don't have a problem with smokers themselves, but I sure as hell don't think smoking is smart.
Since I moved out of my parents' house and into a place where no one smokes inside, I can really notice a difference when I go into a house where people smoke inside. Everything smells like shit. Before, I couldn't smell it at all because I was around it all day. It was like being able to smell for the first time.
I also get annoyed if I go out and get the smell of cigarette on my clothes so that I have to wash then right when I get home. I don't like the smell of smoke on my clothes at all.
Since I moved out of my parents' house and into a place where no one smokes inside, I can really notice a difference when I go into a house where people smoke inside. Everything smells like shit. Before, I couldn't smell it at all because I was around it all day. It was like being able to smell for the first time.
I also get annoyed if I go out and get the smell of cigarette on my clothes so that I have to wash then right when I get home. I don't like the smell of smoke on my clothes at all.
Okay, step back, I'm the one guy that should be posting in this thread.
My three best friends, the friends I've been hanging out with since highschool are habitual smokers. I mean, a pack every 2-days smokers. Even a pack a day depending on their moods, which I always thought was meant for wrinkly old 70 year old widows on their porches.
It all started back in high school, as something we could try out together as 17 year olds. Since then, we're 22 and the 3 of them have made it apart of their lifestyles.
Sure, back then going into a bar/walking through parks and sharing a pack together was very fun to do, but now they've totally become habitual smokers.
If I go out with them, I can plan on a few things happening when I get home:
1.) I have to take a shower or else I'll stink up my room and bed.
2.) I have to febreeze my clothes and stick them in a hamper outside of my room.
3.) As the water dribbles down my face, the smell comes off my hair like a sponge.
4.) Why is it that my hands always smell as if I smoked a million packs?
Here are even MORE annoyances having 3 best friends that smoke:
5.) Sitting in the back seat behind them while they smoke with the window down. Occasional ashes fly into my face.
6.) While talking in a cafe, smoke in the eyes while they exhale and talk.
7.) While we're walking, we get into a conversation and suddenly the conversation stops. I've walked into a building and have to wait for them to finish outside.
The WINTER and smoking:
8.) How about having to stay outside in the cold while waiting for cigarettes? Or being in a huge rush and having to wait for cigarettes?
Holy shit, cigarettes may be deadly, but I'm almost more pissed off at these annoyances.
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So here's something I've never had the guts to tell them. At the risk of coming off a dick:
Does anybody know the number 1 cause of death in America? Usually something to do with your heart---which smokers never really think about. It's not just about their lungs; their hearts are getting weaker.
Now, I'm not saying outlaw smoking. I just wish my friends had a larger perspective on their habit. They're essentially gambling their life away. Funny how social smoking the way they did as 17 year olds was alot more mature and safer than the way are at 22.
As someone here posted earlier, they feel that as people approach 30, they see the effects of smoking straightup. Hopefully it won't be too late for my friends. A classmate of mine had a friend die of testicular cancer. He was 20. Even though he was a non-smoker, why would you ever want to even chance cancer. Death is real--but only when you're not a suburban white kid in their early 20's not knowing of one person that has died at a premature age. That's my take on it.
Okay done.
My three best friends, the friends I've been hanging out with since highschool are habitual smokers. I mean, a pack every 2-days smokers. Even a pack a day depending on their moods, which I always thought was meant for wrinkly old 70 year old widows on their porches.
It all started back in high school, as something we could try out together as 17 year olds. Since then, we're 22 and the 3 of them have made it apart of their lifestyles.
Sure, back then going into a bar/walking through parks and sharing a pack together was very fun to do, but now they've totally become habitual smokers.
If I go out with them, I can plan on a few things happening when I get home:
1.) I have to take a shower or else I'll stink up my room and bed.
2.) I have to febreeze my clothes and stick them in a hamper outside of my room.
3.) As the water dribbles down my face, the smell comes off my hair like a sponge.
4.) Why is it that my hands always smell as if I smoked a million packs?
Here are even MORE annoyances having 3 best friends that smoke:
5.) Sitting in the back seat behind them while they smoke with the window down. Occasional ashes fly into my face.
6.) While talking in a cafe, smoke in the eyes while they exhale and talk.
7.) While we're walking, we get into a conversation and suddenly the conversation stops. I've walked into a building and have to wait for them to finish outside.
The WINTER and smoking:
8.) How about having to stay outside in the cold while waiting for cigarettes? Or being in a huge rush and having to wait for cigarettes?
Holy shit, cigarettes may be deadly, but I'm almost more pissed off at these annoyances.
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So here's something I've never had the guts to tell them. At the risk of coming off a dick:
Does anybody know the number 1 cause of death in America? Usually something to do with your heart---which smokers never really think about. It's not just about their lungs; their hearts are getting weaker.
Now, I'm not saying outlaw smoking. I just wish my friends had a larger perspective on their habit. They're essentially gambling their life away. Funny how social smoking the way they did as 17 year olds was alot more mature and safer than the way are at 22.
As someone here posted earlier, they feel that as people approach 30, they see the effects of smoking straightup. Hopefully it won't be too late for my friends. A classmate of mine had a friend die of testicular cancer. He was 20. Even though he was a non-smoker, why would you ever want to even chance cancer. Death is real--but only when you're not a suburban white kid in their early 20's not knowing of one person that has died at a premature age. That's my take on it.
Okay done.
MomoPufflet
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Diablos said:
Yeah-- second-hand smoke is a genuine concern. When I smoked, if there were people nearby I'd move away, especially if it was a little kid. I was at least considerate about it. I also understand people not liking smoke in general. It just seems like many people in this thread are less concerned with the second-hand health risks and more interested in pushing their stupid biases.
MetalAlien
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I usually see people who smoke, drink, or dip, as a person with a crutch. They need those for some reason, and I do not. I see it as a character flaw and sign of weakness, but since I am not perfect I let it alone.
I too have my weaknesses, but Pizza and Mr. Pibb doesn't have the same stigma.
I too have my weaknesses, but Pizza and Mr. Pibb doesn't have the same stigma.
You're gonna feel stupid dying from nothing. :lol
I smoke ciggies on and off. Usually when I try to quite smoking weed. I went through two packs the last two weeks, but now I'm back on the patch...uh...weed patch that is. Fuck tobacco, the herb hits better.
Non-smokers need to get down or lay down. PEACE.
I smoke ciggies on and off. Usually when I try to quite smoking weed. I went through two packs the last two weeks, but now I'm back on the patch...uh...weed patch that is. Fuck tobacco, the herb hits better.
Non-smokers need to get down or lay down. PEACE.MagicJackBauer
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PhoenixDark said:
i think its time you lowered your standards.
MomoPufflet
Member
MetalAlien said:
Crutch is the best word for it, I think. I didn't really understand the meaning of the term until I quit drinking and smoking myself. Although like you said I don't look down on others for not being able to quit (or not wanting to), as there are plenty of other bad habits I can't break.
OxtheMidget
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PhoenixDark said:
Yo man, beggars can't be choosers.
SpeedingUptoStop
will totally Facebook friend you! *giggle* *LOL*
I really don't care about smokers, although a majority of the ones I know do seem to share the same type of bothersome personality traits: Aggressive, confrontational, uncompromising, [sometimes] just plain ignorant about what ever they're talking about, etc. I don't know if the smoking makes the person or the person makes the smoker, but these traits are very common amongst the smokers I know. Who knows, there's probably some passive, compromising smokers out there, I just haven't met them yet.
The Take Out Bandit
Member
I would like to slice their throats open and expedite the whole process of them dying, sans the pollution and side effects.
Smoking is a god damned filthy habit.
And pot smells just as bad.
Snipe a smoker! ^_^
Smoking is a god damned filthy habit.
And pot smells just as bad.
Snipe a smoker! ^_^
SpeedingUptoStop
will totally Facebook friend you! *giggle* *LOL*
I'm not self-righteous, I've got no problem with people smoking. It's their choice to make, so let'em make it. I've been around smokers all my life, so the 2nd hand smoking doesn't bother me. I was just listing off characteristics I've noticed through out the years that were too common to not notice. There's always an exception, it's just that I haven't seen it yet, that's all. Smoke where ever you can all you want, it's your choice.Willco said:
I should add that I find female smokers to be somewhat of a turn-off. Smoking disqualifies any female from being relationship material. It's the smell I can't stand; stale smoke on clothes, hair, and breath is pretty unpleasant. Health-wise, I suppose it's a shame some otherwise lovely individual would do that to her body, but as I said before it's a personal choice, possibly an act of rebellion, or what-have-you. If it weren't for the fact that cigarette smoke contaminates everything it touches with that nasty odour, I don't think I'd care as much.
Edit: Oh, stale pot smoke is kinda rank, too, but it's less problematic than cigarette smoke. For the most part, it airs out completely with moderate outdoor exposure, whereas cig smoke doesn't completely disappear until the clothes go in the wash.
Edit: Oh, stale pot smoke is kinda rank, too, but it's less problematic than cigarette smoke. For the most part, it airs out completely with moderate outdoor exposure, whereas cig smoke doesn't completely disappear until the clothes go in the wash.
MomoPufflet
Member
I actually find the image of an attractive girl smoking to be pretty hot. However the actual effects of smoking (smell sticking to clothes, taste in their mouth, yellow teeth) is pretty disgusting if you're in a relationship with them.
I used to hate them-- now it's the closest I can get to having a cigarette without smoking again :lol
achilles said:
I used to hate them-- now it's the closest I can get to having a cigarette without smoking again :lol
White Man said:
It's not propaganda that smokers smell bad. It's fact. Only the most consciensious smokers avoid the rank breath and stinky clothes.
I always said that I wasn't gonna be an asshole non-smoker when I quit, and I don't think I am. I never complain aroundsmokers and it doesn't really bother me to go to a bar where people smoke.
But smokers still smell like shit. That sour, tar-breath is the worst -- especially if they drink coffee.
I regret smoking if only for the fact that I stunk in front of so many other people.
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