Reneledarker
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She also can re-hire Russo.
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November Wrasslin |OT| Ask Not The Jobber How John Cena Wins
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She also can re-hire Russo.
Macho Madness
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They aired ads during Raw. It's smart because Lucha Underground is an actual alternative to WWE, and not just a copy.
Finally, some good news for the day.
Pop-O-Matic
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I think Vinny Mac needs to snatch him up fast. His particular brand of insanity would actually be a welcome reprieve from the bland-ass product currently on TV.
Dr Duncan Steel
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Let's talk about potential ways they can fuck up Lucha Underground because IT'S GONNA HAPPEN. Don't know how, but it's totally happening.
British Monsoon
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Nope, it's definitely ROH - they have an average weekly viewership of 300,000, which is 10x Lucha Underground's ratings. ROH might not be the internet darling of the wrestling world any more, but in terms of financial stability, attendances and ad revenue, they're doing pretty well for themselves.
BronsonLee
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Sinclair made ROH a real company.
I love Lucha Underground, but they're in the role TNA is in now; to draw people to buy the network.
I love Lucha Underground, but they're in the role TNA is in now; to draw people to buy the network.
Spider from Mars
tap that thorax
Pop-O-Matic
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What are the non-union Mexican equivalents to Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff?
bitesnintendog
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Is there any numbers on what viewership levels ROH gets in syndication? Lucha Underground is nowhere near the #2 promotion in America.
TheWarrior
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Wrasslegaf dominating OT today
British Monsoon
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No week to week numbers or anything, but Sinclair recently had an investor meeting and announced the average numbers for 2013;
"...across all 72 channels ROHs Ring of Honor Wrestling program airs on, it obtained an average of 300,000 viewers a week last year, beating many local news broadcasts."
Yup, plus the fact that barely costs Sinclair a dime and gives them something to throw on their channels each week means the promotion's pretty secure for the future.
Pop-O-Matic
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Neilsen will probably publicly release the names of the last 12 people still watching TNA at that point to shame them out of watching.
Have you seen ROH lately? Only thing they're missing is a big screen for their entrances.
Mr. Luchador
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Guys, NXT #2 Promotion in North America.
British Monsoon
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Goddamn, so...unwatchable.
Pop-O-Matic
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Might as well start counting Raw, Smackdown, Main Event and Superstars as separate promotions at that point.
Jeeze, is that ROH, or the Rainforest Cafe?
Goddamn, so...unwatchable.
I watched after someone here told me it had improved and it had the same low production values as before.
Goddamn, so...unwatchable.
That's one camera angle. I'm talking about the whole production of the show. It doesn't look or sound as good as TNA or even Lucha Underground. It's low budget.
But sure, I'll give it another shot to see if it looks less minor league.
Mr. Luchador
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You mean you don't?
Top 5 Wrestling Promotions
WWE Raw
NXT
WWE Smackdown
WWE Main Event
WWE Network
The Elite
BOSS
I was at the recent event in Toronto. Their whole promotion feels really small when you're there. After they'd wrestler, the guys would sit up in the seats behind us to watch the other guys compete. The biggest screen there seemed like it was 40". They really need to invest in a big screen. I couldn't see a lot of the action out of the ring and a large screen showing what was happening would have kept me excited during some of the matches.
The Elite
BOSS
I would put Main Event over Smackdown.
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
Goddamn, so...unwatchable.
No Titantron, not enough LEDs and the crowd isn't lit with lights the exact same color as the rest of the set's dominate color. Hell, there isn't even a real dominate, unified color scheme on the set to begin with, with blue lights on the logo but a red and black ring.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Shawn Michaels vs Taker at WM 25 is an amazing match. But what really makes it is that there's this bald Bubba Dudley looking dude in the front row just marking the fuck out during the entire match
Goddamn, so...unwatchable.
ROH is the defacto number 2 but man the gulf between 1 and 2 in wrestling is huge. MMA has a real number 2 now.
Plus ROH would do so much better if they were getting the money EL Ray was paying for Lucha Underground. Sinclair likes them because they don't have to pay much for it.
British Monsoon
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Matt Sydal vs AJ Styles was a real good match though and that's what counts, right guys? Guys? Oh 
I wouldn't bother if the low budget production is that big of a turn-off for you, it hasn't improved dramatically over the past year or two. Better cameras, new lighting rig. That's about it. I have no problem with it (other than how loud they mic their ring), but do often forget how big a role pristine production seems to play into other's enjoyment of pro-wrestling.
I wouldn't bother if the low budget production is that big of a turn-off for you, it hasn't improved dramatically over the past year or two. Better cameras, new lighting rig. That's about it. I have no problem with it (other than how loud they mic their ring), but do often forget how big a role pristine production seems to play into other's enjoyment of pro-wrestling.
Mr. Luchador
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I suffer from the other end of the scale - WWE's Production is TOO Pristine. Everything is super tight and set up, which makes it come across too fake. You don't see camera scramble to get to see the action, making it feel like the wrestlers have went somewhere they shouldn't. There's always a cameraman in the perfect position and that ZOOOOOOOOOOOM on impact thing they do. Ergh.
Matt Sydal vs AJ Styles was a real good match though and that's what counts, right guys? Guys? Oh
I wouldn't bother if the low budget production is that big of a turn-off for you, it hasn't improved dramatically over the past year or two. Better cameras, new lighting rig. That's about it. I have no problem with it (other than how loud they mic their ring), but do often forget how big a role pristine production seems to play into other's enjoyment of pro-wrestling.
I don't need the production to be the best ever to enjoy it but yeah, ROH just doesn't cut it for me.
The number two promotion should at least be NXT levels of production. And Lucha Underground also does a good job in that department, same as TNA.
It's a TV product so I do think it needs to look good.
newdayrocks
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Finally just watched the first two episodes of Lucha Underground. That is some excellent, streamlined TV entertainment, friends.
Between LU, NXT, and ROH, one-hour wrestling shows seem to be what's Best for Business.
Between LU, NXT, and ROH, one-hour wrestling shows seem to be what's Best for Business.
might be worth the perm just to see what kind of ban message you get. then maybe you could expose him like that Brony did and get the ban lifted
British Monsoon
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They're deathly afraid of accidentally showing someone blocking a kick to the head with their hand, but have no issue mic'ing the ring so loud you can hear the wrestlers calling spots. Bizarre.
Yet NXT is produced by students and it definitely shows - ROH may not have the budget, but their camera crews don't awkwardly frame or outright miss spots as often as the NXT students do.
TheWarrior
Banned
random thought
Is Cena a Medical Doctor of Thuganomics or a Doctor of Philosophy in Thuganomics
Is Cena a Medical Doctor of Thuganomics or a Doctor of Philosophy in Thuganomics
Sibersk Esto
Banned
The old camera style caught some pretty blatant botches
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IypxhYjyZdk&channel=TheRatedROpportunist
When there's a Dixie on TV, but no one is around to see it, is the Dixie really on TV?
He got his degree from the same school as Dr. Dre.
mightynine
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Destination America is the former Planet Green, available somewhere on the high end of your cable box, and has far less penetration than Spike, and probably less than when TNA was on Fox Sports Net.
If TNA was a can, today it was kicked down the road.
If TNA was a can, today it was kicked down the road.
FallingEdge
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Even with its flaws it looks and sounds miles better than ROH.
And it's a developmental space with college students recording it so at least there's an excuse for those problems (that aren't that common or troublesome).
slightconfuse
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Budget for Lucha underground is around how much it cost for raw per episode
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