I'm always amazed when someone tells me that they restarted watching wrestling over the past decade. Why? You were free! You were gone. Couldn't you have read a book or played a game during those hours? Now, you're back here with us in the proverbial basement of society.
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November Wrasslin |OT| CM Punk's Countdown to RESPECT
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Nocturnowl
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Even with my love for 2000 it's hard to defend the RR 2000, speaking of the rumble itself that is. It lacked star power, granted 1999 was actually even weaker but I guess the Austin/McMahon angle was enough for it.
The biggest stars in the 2000 RR were Rock, Show, Kane and...Jericho? X-Pac? well damn this is a tough sell.
Though dick punching isn't anything I remember much of.
Now the 2001 RR, that was fantastic and was really the product of 2000.
But it was surely better than this years jobber rumble of barrel scraping.
slightconfuse
Banned
whythough. i still love it. i just fall out of it when the product wasn't hot or i was moving on in life. I was out for a long time out but like a lot of people CM Punk got me back in. there are so many great alternatives now to wwe i feel i dont need them to be good anymore.
Mascara Dorada was going to take Avernos mask,but him being in japan so long cost him that shot. Also, La sombra and Volador are still more over than Dorada, but he's closing the gap. fantasticamania will be all about dorada. 2013 will be the year of the gold mask!
2000 RR was good due to the crowd, the energy, and they actually used it to get lesser guys over. Most rumbles are terrible, but that one was fun, so I enjoyed it.
2001 RR is easily the best ever, though.
Were you looking for marking out moments? I thought the undercard was interesting for the feuds that they had going at the time.
Edit: I was thinking about 2001.... Well we did get Foley vs triple H. Although the next month....
The PPV was great. Taz's WWE debut, the tag team tables match, and Cactus vs HHH were awesome and made up for the shitty rumble, terrible bikini contest, and continuation of the Jericho/Chyna feud, but with Bobcore Holly involved.
1992 is still the best to me. The match itself, at least. As for PPV as a whole, 2001 is pretty amazing. But 2002 had The Rock vs Jericho and Flair vs McMahon. I feel like the Rumble itself hasn't meant shit since 2002.
What do you mean? You have a problem with me quitting WWE in 1999 and then I started watching again last year?
I don't have a problem with it, lol. I'm just asking why?
So you're saying you want to fight me?
I could totally see them having Punk walk out of Rumble with the belt.
If he does, he's going to dwarf Cena's longest reign, which would be some feat.
Last year around this time Sheamus had moments (feud if you wanna call it that) with Jinder Mahal. Two months later, he wins the Royal Rumble and is immediately inserted into the World title picture. Hopefully whoever wins this year (don't bore me by having Punk-Cener-Rock win it) is having some momentum nearing the event. It won't be Ziggler since he already has the MitB briefcase, so I'm hoping somebody like Wade Barrett or Daniel Bryan.
mechashiva
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Couldn't find it on my hotels cable.
yeah...ouch
It's pretty crazy to think that the reign of Sheamus only happened because Vince was trying to stick it to the fans for knowing Jericho was going to win the Rumble.
Keyser Soze
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What?
Jericho was planned to win the Rumble, everyone knew it, so they changed it to Sheamus last minute. I don't think Sheamus was planned to be in the title hunt until the Summer time. In fact, I have a feeling they didn't have any plans for what they were going to do with the WHC or D-Bryne.
jobber
Would let Tony Parker sleep with his wife
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Banned
yea it was more obvious after the fact when they tried to force jericho into the title hunt very half assed.
Every wrestler interview in the last year has mad eit clear that they come up with most stuff 10 minutes before the show goes on. Bryan even recently stated that the wrestlers usually have no idea what's going on until right before the show, or even during it.
I'm 100% convinced that AJ being named GM was just some crap they pulled during the show.
Dark Ninja
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It would be interesting to see how they book without the WWE title for a couple of months. If Ziggler cashed in his MITB he would be the top champion with no WWE title
I was free for a really long time too. Then a buddy of mine took me to an ROH show and lent me some DVDs. Then we went to a Dragon Gate show. Then I followed Bryan Danielson in his jump to the WWE. And hey, this CM Punk is pretty cool. What? Bret Hart is coming back and he's going to fight Vince? Everything else is pretty boring, but these three things seem pretty cool!
I watch, listen to, and read about wrestling more than ever now. I treat the indies, TNA, and WWE fairly equally, but WWE and TNA are by far the most frustrating since I've been back, but I tune in for the stuff I actually care about.
If El Generico makes it to the WWE and is allowed to keep his gimmick...man. Stuff could get legendary.
For the most part, wrestling in the big leagues is honestly pretty poor and ridiculous these days. Sadly, now that I'm back in I still feel compelled to keep up to date with all the garbage and glory that goes on.
The thing that gets me is that it's always just one or two things that makes people watch. One character or segment. In a show that's now three hours long, and it's only about 10 minutes worth of stuff that people find watchable.
According to an ex writer they planned Sheamus to win RR from August/ September.
To be honest, they have done some stuff well and have been building some guys up. Reasons I'll actually tune into Raw:
Daniel Bryan
CM Punk
Antonio Cesaro
Prime Time Players
...And lately, Sin Cara and Rey have been really solid. I was pumped for the Rhodes Scholars, but they've been totally wasted so far.
Makes no sense considering they had him with no real story or feud going in. So it was as random as can be. That's why if somebody like Bryan or Barrett do in fact win, they're setup rightfully heading in. He did win his TLC match, an impromptu against Jack Swagger. Bravo, I guess.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Shut it Soul Playa
Dark Ninja
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Theres always bright spots in WWE even if you have to dig through crap to find it. Currently its CM Punk, Bryan, the tag division and NXT what a great show. Other bright spots were MITB 2011, ECW ONS, ECW ONS 2 and for me CM Punk 2006 - 2011 (except i hated watching him lose every feud he was in)
I donno. I just know after Mania this writer came out and said that wwe made the decision the day of for Bryan to win MTIB and then in December, they had to find Bryan at an airport and bring him in to cash in, then he name dropped who they had in the books to win Rumble. He also mentioned Jericho came in to put over CM Punk.
It was on wrestling inc. I try and look for it.
Pristine_Condition
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It was about 9:00PM when that occurred. Which means that Jumbo Jack was at least four hours old.
I don't know what dumpsters you dive in for you to consider a four hour-old, unrefrigerated denizen of Jack in the Box's Value Menu to be "Perfectly good," but neither I nor my refined palate care to go there. [removes monocle] Good day, sir! I said, good day, sir!
(Now if it were a delicious Pub Burger, I could understand your outrage.)
Lol. I didn't see that.
Fun show.[/QUOTE]
Yes indeed.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
You're complaining about people watching wrestling in the wrestling thread. Just seems pointless to me.
Not saying you're lying or anything. Just if that was their plan, they did an awful job in execution for building him up prior to it.
I'm not talking about wrestling. I'm talking about WWE. I'm also not complaining, just having an introspective discussion about the product.
Stop trying to start petty shit. We're actually having a real discussion in here for once, lol.
I came back because I heard the Rock was coming back, and he was always my favorite. Then I watched on and off after that Wrestlemania, until I happened to catch the start of Punk's shenanigans while Truth was still feuding with Cena, then came the promo to end all promos and I was hooked.
WWE hasn't built anyone up well in years. Except maybe Ryback.
I wouldn't call him built up that well. He's like a house of cards.