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Almost forgot, the other day Metlz & Alvarez were discussing how the wwf does these horrible promos where people complain that someone doesn't "look" like a champion (bliss to becky, jbl about zayn)

Alvarez made an analogy that it would be like people complaining that Meltz was a journalist because he looks like superman instead of clark kent. couldn't stop laughing
 
I don't know if I'm alone but I think guys like Hogan and Savage peaked promo wise in the '80s.

They're not bad in WCW but their promos feel too reserved.
 

Anth0ny

Member
was bored, wrote up an early Mania 33 card for fun. Please criticize.


RAW TITLE MATCH (Brock/Goldberg)
SMACKDOWN TITLE MATCH (Taker/AJ)
DREAM MATCH (Cena/Shane)
GRUDGE MATCH (HHH/Seth)
GRUDGE MATCH (Owens/Jericho)
WOMENS TITLE MATCH RAW (Sasha/Charlotte/Bayley)
WOMENS TITLE MATCH SMACKDOWN (Fatal Five Way)
RAW LADDER MATCH (Balor/Joe/Reigns/Zayn/Rusev)
SMACKDOWN LADDER MATCH (Miz/Ziggler/Wyatt/Orton/Nakamura)
CW LADDER MATCH (TJP/Kendrick/Kalisto/Neville/Cedric Alexander/Gran Metallik)
ANDRE BATTLE ROYALE (20 man, Stroman dominates)
SMACKDOWN TAG (American Alpha vs. Usos)
RAW TAG (New Day vs. Cesaro/Sheamus)

13 matches total. 64 Workers on Card.

Last year had 11 matches, but with the brand split and CW division I had a really hard time keeping the card to only 11 matches. Pretty much no filler here, and you could EASILY break out those Raw/Smackdown ladder matches into singles matches. While they should make the matches shorter, WWE will probably add two hours to the show.

Let me know if I'm missing anything/anyone obvious.
 
was bored, wrote up an early Mania 33 card for fun. Please criticize.


RAW TITLE MATCH (Brock/Goldberg)
SMACKDOWN TITLE MATCH (Taker/AJ)
DREAM MATCH (Cena/Shane)
GRUDGE MATCH (HHH/Seth)
GRUDGE MATCH (Owens/Jericho)
WOMENS TITLE MATCH RAW (Sasha/Charlotte/Bayley)
WOMENS TITLE MATCH SMACKDOWN (Fatal Five Way)
RAW LADDER MATCH (Balor/Joe/Reigns/Zayn/Rusev)
SMACKDOWN LADDER MATCH (Miz/Ziggler/Wyatt/Orton/Nakamura)
CW LADDER MATCH (TJP/Kendrick/Kalisto/Neville/Cedric Alexander/Gran Metallik)
ANDRE BATTLE ROYALE (20 man, Stroman dominates)
SMACKDOWN TAG (American Alpha vs. Usos)
RAW TAG (New Day vs. Cesaro/Sheamus)

13 matches total. 64 Workers on Card.

Last year had 11 matches, but with the brand split and CW division I had a really hard time keeping the card to only 11 matches. Pretty much no filler here, and you could EASILY break out those Raw/Smackdown ladder matches into singles matches. While they should make the matches shorter, WWE will probably add two hours to the show.

Let me know if I'm missing anything/anyone obvious.
Raw's title match will be Ko v balor. Obviously isn't going to be the main event because it's not worthy of the spot.
 

Heroman

Banned
Almost forgot, the other day Metlz & Alvarez were discussing how the wwf does these horrible promos where people complain that someone doesn't "look" like a champion (bliss to becky, jbl about zayn)

Alvarez made an analogy that it would be like people complaining that Meltz was a journalist because he looks like superman instead of clark kent. couldn't stop laughing
Dave no selling Alvarez is the greatest
 

Hasney

Member
WWF Macho was waaaay better than WCW Macho.

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Kaladin

Member
I liked that when it came to the nWo, both faces and heels hated them. It gave the nWo basically a "final boss" feel

It made Hogan's turn seem more real. I especially loved the Taskmaster's take on Hogan's turn to the nWo. I wish they could have explored the WCW heel vs nWo heel angle a bit more.
 

Ronin Ray

Member
I finally got to watch Takeover toronto and those last 3 matches were so good.

Mickie James was great and I wish they would do the same thing with Gail Kim. Asuka is a star among stars to me and just oozes charisma without speaking a word of English.

First time seeing the revival and now I feel bad for skipping all there matches before. I think there gimmick is bland and I hate there look but then can go and have great in ring psychology.

Joe vs nakamura was what I wanted. 2 super talented guys beating the crap out of each other. Joe vs Brock is my dream match and I can't think of a match I want to see more

Another note Bobby Roode should not be in NXT. Get that man on the main roster and build up No way Jose and Andrade Almas.
 

miserable

Member
man, it's so weird seeing Hogan wrestle in Japan. he's doing mat wrestling, submission moves, jumping knee!. total bizarro land.
also, there's nothing more satisfying than the sound of a Tenryu chop

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Sephzilla

Member
It made Hogan's turn seem more real. I especially loved the Taskmaster's take on Hogan's turn to the nWo. I wish they could have explored the WCW heel vs nWo heel angle a bit more.

Exactly. Shit felt more real because everyone hated Hogan and the nWo at that point. I legit wish we'd get more heel versus heel scenarios in wrestling.

I remember a discussion about how Heenan shouldn'tve said anything suspicious when Hogan came out at the Bash, but in my mind it makes perfect sense

If Heenan didn't immediately question Hogan's motives at Bash at the Beach it would have been more suspicious, honestly. Heenan saying "what if he's the third man" immediately just made the audience go "nah, Heenan's been saying that for years"
 

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
People on wrestling twitter advocating for a 1 week Ellsworth run with the title.

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The dumb storyline has gone on so long at this point, why not?

Beating the champion three times is on the same level as Arquette winning the title. Shit, Arquette only beat the champ once. With help.
 

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
exactly, so there is actually nothing wrong with Ellsworth winning the title then

The entire point of pro wrestling, before it was about making gifs, is that it's supposed to be believable and look real. Even though it's fake. So it doesn't really matter how much wrestling training you've had, ESPECIALLY in the WWE, as long as you look convincing as a character and as a wrestler.

What's the long term goal with Ellsworth? He's just going to keep weaseling out and barely winning since he's Dean's little buddy? Like that shit's not already stale?
 

klonere

Banned
The entire point of pro wrestling, before it was about making gifs, is that it's supposed to be believable and look real. Even though it's fake. So it doesn't really matter how much wrestling training you've had, ESPECIALLY in the WWE, as long as you look convincing as a character and as a wrestler.

What's the long term goal with Ellsworth? He's just going to keep weaseling out and barely winning since he's Dean's little buddy? Like that shit's not already stale?

he makes Vince laugh a lot so he's on TV and the writing staff are doing their best with him I guess????
 

klonere

Banned
I mean

Boogeyman made Vince laugh a lot too and he was used pretty well. Should he have gotten the title?

Hey, I don't think he should have the title either but I wouldn't be shocked if he did. I mean what I really need is AJ to just beat him in 10 seconds clean as the blowoff.
 

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
I expect Ambrose to beat up Ellsworth for mega heel heat and AJ to save him for double turn

but
A) That needs to happen VERY soon if it does because the shelf life on a gimmick like Ellsworth isn't very long
B) That means the AJ/Ambrose feud will continue to drag on
 

Sephzilla

Member
Remember when Santino almost beat Daniel Bryan for the WHC? I think the tease of a jobber underdog beating the champ is better than him actually becoming champ. Like, the pops when Santino hit the Cobra on Bryan and when Ellsworth hit No Chin Music on Styles were pretty nuts
 

klonere

Banned
With Goldberg in the picture for Mania now they are shifting over to Shane vs Dean instead of Shane vs Brock, so AJ/Dean will have to end sharpish.
 
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