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Now that Rude Removal's been shown, what's your next "Holy Grail" of lost media?

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I'm fascinated by "lost" media. The idea that these works of art are documented, yet could be lost forever, or merely in some storage room somewhere in the Midwest. Rude Removal was a pretty big deal for me, due to a nostalgic connection, as was Crybaby Lane. With those two now discovered and openly available to watch, I'm now curious about what's ahead.

As a fan of Mike Judge and Greg Daniels, probably the one I'm most curious about is the lost pilot for a live-action King of the Hill spin-off of the Monsignor Martinez character. I don't know what it would have been like, but the idea itself sounds potentially hilarious.

The idea of a kids' show being too disturbing for its audience is always fascinating. That's what makes the "banned" episodes/segments from Sesame Street so appealing. The Crack Monster, The Wicked Witch of the West, and Snuffy's Parents Get a Divorce have all either never been showed, or pulled from circulation shortly after airing. The Crack Monster short is particularly interesting, because we know that a copy exists in private ownership and has been screened. Also, just look at this thing...
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Doesn't exactly look like Sesame Street.

Aqua Teen Hunger Force's "Boston" episode is a strange one, since it's so recent, and was based on a such a big event. The creators imply that it will likely never see the light of day, but I think this one will probably show up eventually. I highly doubt tempers will remain high over the incident, and I can't imagine too much rage over a release.


John Hughes' 150 minute Director's Cut of The Breakfast Club
. Personally I think a lot of the inclusions sound excessive, and might break the pace of the movie. However, The Breakfast Club is a classic movie with a lot of fans. It'd be great to see more of it.

The Day the Clown Cried is one of the more infamous ones. A big name like Jerry Lewis handling a big subject like the Holocaust is enough to make you wonder. But it's Harry Shearer's comments about the rough cut he viewed that really makes me want to see this thing.

Harry Shearer said:
"With most of these kinds of things, you find that the anticipation, or the concept, is better than the thing itself. But seeing this film was really awe-inspiring, in that you are rarely in the presence of a perfect object. This was a perfect object. This movie is so drastically wrong, its pathos and its comedy are so wildly misplaced, that you could not, in your fantasy of what it might be like, improve on what it really is. 'Oh My God!' – that's all you can say."

The thing is, I don't know if this will ever be available. Lewis still seems to be completely ashamed and defensive about the thing, and I imagine he might take measures to keep it from coming out even after his death.
 

ezekial45

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That Crack Monster is terrifying. I'm 25 years old and it makes me extremely uneasy just looking at it. I'd be scared for a long time if I saw that as a kid.
 

lobdale

3 ft, coiled to the sky
For one of my friends in particular, the Land Before Time full version is at the top of that list.

About 11 minutes of footage, a total of 19 fully animated scenes, were cut from the final film, to attain a G rating instead of a PG rating. Much of the cut footage consisted of the Tyrannosaurus attack sequence and sequences of the five young dinosaurs in severe peril and distress. Some screams were revoiced using milder exclamations.[5] Though Don Bluth was unhappy with the cuts, and fought for all the footage, he had to settle on a final running time of 69 minutes, one of his shortest.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Land_Before_Time#Editing
 

Watch Da Birdie

I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
Not really "art", but I'd love to see the Pokemon episodes that never aired.

I'm not talking about Porygon, or the episodes that were banned in the U.S. There's three episodes in Japan that never aired due to earthquakes, a random episode in the Hoenn Season, and a Team Plasma two-parter back during the 2011 EQ.

The former was canceled right before it aired, and a preview of it exists...it didn't seem like anything special, but as a fan of the series, I'm interested in it. The latter two were hyped by the show for months before being canceled, and the recent arc in the series appears to basically incorporate elements from it.

EDIT: Also the Phantom Blood movie of JoJo that Araki blocked from being released outside theaters.
 
The creator of Mission Hill once said he had seasons upon seasons of completed animatics; some have been uploaded to Youtube but apparently these animatics go all the way to the shows end. Talk about planning in advanced! I'd be keen to see Andy be successful.

In regards to creepiness. Probably "Mickey Mouse in Vietnam". The most legendary one to hunt next would probably be "Attack of the Giant Vulture".
 
The creator of Mission Hill once said he had seasons upon seasons of completed animatics; some have been uploaded to Youtube but apparently these animatics go all the way to the shows end. Talk about planning in advanced! I'd be keen to see Andy be successful.

In regards to creepiness. Probably "Mickey Mouse in Vietnam". The most legendary one to hunt next would probably be "Attack of the Giant Vulture".

This one apparently still gets screened sometimes, but has never been released.
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Thought he burned that part of the film? Or did Kubrick just say that so people would bother him?

I've always just heard that he cut it because he thought it didn't work. I never really found anything about its fate. There are certainly a lot of photos available from it, not that any of them are from the footage itself.
 
The episodes of Pokemon that gave people seizures... although maybe it's a good thing those aren't easily available.

I'd also love to see this bizarre-sounding movie from Sundance, Escape From Tomorrow, that was illegally shot in Disneyland. Copyright restrictions plus what sounds like some unsavory reviews might make this impossible.
 

Akahige

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The episodes of Pokemon that gave people seizures... although maybe it's a good thing those aren't easily available.

I'd also love to see this bizarre-sounding movie from Sundance, Escape From Tomorrow, that was illegally shot in Disneyland. Copyright restrictions plus what sounds like some unsavory reviews might make this impossible.
lolcrazy "He was so nervous about a potential blabbermouth at a postproduction house that he took the movie to South Korea to edit, where he has been traveling to, on and off, from Los Angeles for the last two years."
 

FStop7

Banned
Now that Rude Removal's been shown, what's your next "Holy Grail" of lost media?

The audio recording of Tim Treadwell and his girlfriend being eaten alive by a grizzly bear.

It was recorded by Treadwell's video camera. There is only audio because the lens cap was left on.

Werner Herzog is the only person who's heard it besides the authorities.
 

RoboPlato

I'd be in the dick
There's an R rated cut of Garfield where Bill Murray recorded a bunch of obscene phrases and they actually animated it and it's cycled around the studio as a gift. I need to see that.
 
Not really "art", but I'd love to see the Pokemon episodes that never aired.

I'm not talking about Porygon, or the episodes that were banned in the U.S. There's three episodes in Japan that never aired due to earthquakes, a random episode in the Hoenn Season, and a Team Plasma two-parter back during the 2011 EQ.

The former was canceled right before it aired, and a preview of it exists...it didn't seem like anything special, but as a fan of the series, I'm interested in it. The latter two were hyped by the show for months before being canceled, and the recent arc in the series appears to basically incorporate elements from it.

EDIT: Also the Phantom Blood movie of JoJo that Araki blocked from being released outside theaters.

You're in luck. I saw a copy on youtube via /a/, no sound, but, it was pretty bad. It looked like early Part 1, but, with terrible animation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded%AD&v=QOUDdJRvn2Q#!

Here you go!
 
The audio recording of Tim Treadwell and his girlfriend being eaten alive by a grizzly bear.

It was recorded by Treadwell's video camera. There is only audio because the lens cap was left on.

Werner Herzog is the only person who's heard it besides the authorities.

Just saw that for the first time last weekend.

Dude was crazy.
 
Star Wars, the original cut.

If you've got the cash... But yeah, an HD release would be nice. I don't care what Lucas says, there are still high-quality prints out there.

There's an R rated cut of Garfield where Bill Murray recorded a bunch of obscene phrases and they actually animated it and it's cycled around the studio as a gift. I need to see that.

I would love to see this for the novelty value.
 

Borgnine

MBA in pussy licensing and rights management
The audio recording of Tim Treadwell and his girlfriend being eaten alive by a grizzly bear.

I would love to hear this asshole be eaten by a bear. I felt bad for the girl though. Also the bear.

That Clown Cry movie just sounds like Life is Beautiful.
 
Steve Irwin death video.

The odd thing is, Steve Irwin has been documented saying that if he were killed by an animal on camera, he'd want the footage released so that people could learn from it. I understand why people would still be apprehensive about the situation, but it does seem weird to completely disregard his wishes.
 
The audio recording of Tim Treadwell and his girlfriend being eaten alive by a grizzly bear.

It was recorded by Treadwell's video camera. There is only audio because the lens cap was left on.

Werner Herzog is the only person who's heard it besides the authorities.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fc1_1216787783

Authorities and people with access to Google. I'm not sure it's real or not, because I sure as heck am not going to listen to it.
 
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fc1_1216787783

Authorities and people with access to Google. I'm not sure it's real or not, because I sure as heck am not going to listen to it.

That one's apparently a hoax, with the real event being 6 minutes long and with different sounds.

After doing some additional research on the incident, and having personal correspondance with Kevin Sanders (who has investigated the incident since the beginning, and who has heard a portion of the real tape), I believe the "leaked" 1:51 clip to be fake. According to Kevin, this audio is the same old fake audio that has been floating around for years.

As you can read in the transcript of the tape, found on Kevin's website, the first sounds heard are Amie asking if it's "still out there". The next voice heard is Tim yelling "get out here, I'm getting killed out here" (this part is true to the above audio, but many inconsistancies remain). In the above clip, we never hear that first line from Amie.

A tent zipper is then heard, as well as the tent flap opening (both of which are unheard in the above audio) before Amie yells at Tim to "play dead", later telling him to "fight back" after Tim states that playing dead isn't working (this statement is also unheard in the above audio). Note that in the same audio clip, Amie says "play dead" right after Tim yells for her to go to his aid; in the real audio, the tent is first heard unzipping and opening before Amie begins yelling. Rain hitting the tent is also said to be clearly heard during this part, which you do not hear in the faked audio.

After this, the bear is said to have been startled off momentarily, during which time a short conversation ensued between Amie and Tim as to whether or not the bear was gone for good, moments before the bear returned. This conversation, again, is completely missing from the faked audio.

Additionally, according to the transcript, right after Tim asks Amie to hit the bear, she yells "go away" before the sound of the frying pan hitting it is heard. This line, as well as the sounds of the frying pan hitting the bear, (like many sounds in the 1:51 clip), are also missing, confirming it a fraud.
 
I would love to see Glitterati. For anyone who´s seen Roger Avery´s adaption of Rules Of Attraction, Gliterrati is a movie made with the footage that was shot for the sequence where Victor Ward travels through Europe.
It´s basically 90 mins of Kip Pardue acting like Victor Ward in real life. It was shown a couple of times in private showings but Roger Avary doesn´t want to release it because he feels the movie is "ethically questionable".
 

Watch Da Birdie

I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
The episodes of Pokemon that gave people seizures... although maybe it's a good thing those aren't easily available.

There's only one episode, Electric Soldier Porygon, and it aired on television so there are copies of it available online. It just won't ever be officially re-aired or released.

And from what I've heard, the quality is so low that the seizure issue is gone unless you have a history of epilepsy.
 

Minus_Me

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I would love to watch Glitterati. I always wondered what they did with all the footage they must have shot for that sequence.
 
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