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NPD Hardware Sales Results for February 2007
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devilscallmedad
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biggest NPD thread ever
In before phil giving reggie blowjob photoshops
In before phil giving reggie blowjob photoshops
MightyHedgehog
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Dude, if that really worked, we'd all be screaming for $50 consoles and blow jobs from Scarlett Johansson.Zaptruder said:
I ask this do people simply believe its down to the price whats holding the PS3 back or is there more to it then that ?
personally think even at a lower cost currently the PS3 is not that appealing, it lacks the quality titles on the shelves unlike the 360 and it lacks the novelty of a new control system like the Wii.
Think Sony need to find some way make the PS3 standout, things like Home will do this but its a while off.
personally think even at a lower cost currently the PS3 is not that appealing, it lacks the quality titles on the shelves unlike the 360 and it lacks the novelty of a new control system like the Wii.
Think Sony need to find some way make the PS3 standout, things like Home will do this but its a while off.
meltpotato
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Zaptruder said:
400$ - 600$ is not affordable. it simply isnt. this is a GAME CONSOLE
duk said:
that's not counting holiday spikes, which could go in any direction to be fair. so far it has benefited Nintendo (holiday + launch) and could serve to close the gap at a quicker rate over those couple months.
or it might not.
i am not a sales-ager, so i can't and i don't want to even assume i might know what happens at holiday time.
siamesedreamer
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Just out of curiosity, what do the first February PS2 sales look like in comparison?
Nameless said:
I really, really don't know about the first point. We just don't know. I think that nothing happens scenario is unrealistic. Suppose a Wii-less 360 gamer bought 5 games a year. Is reasonable to assume that once he get a Wii he would buy the same 5 games for 360 + x games for Wii. I honestly don't think so. Is it plausible that he will now buy only 3 games for 360, maybe rent one and buy x games for Wii? Yes it is plausible. Is buying 2 games for 360 plausible? Probably too low. Is 4 games too high? Probably. Would i be reasonable to estimate based on this that if 1/2 of 360 gamers bought a Wii, the attach rate would fall 20%? What if 3/4 bought a Wii?
Even more important question from a publishers perspective is this: how many of the people who would buy your game for 360 would have also bought it on Wii?
Link
The Autumn Wind
This bullshit really has to stop. "Cheap shit house looking games"? I guess all last gen games look like crap now? I'm sorry if you can't enjoy games that aren't in high def with surround sound, but a lot of us can get by just fine. I play a game because it's a good game, not because it's cutting-edge technology.Zaptruder said:
I guess playing games for that reason means I'm not "hardcore" now. Shut the **** up.
Zaptruder said:
Dude why do you include the 360 ?
Go ask Publishers how they feel about software sales and Hw sales on the 360...they feel pretty good.
Wii and 360, two kind of markets, two kind of games, MORE revenue.
Sony needs to do something, that's all, don't be stubborn, too bad they seem more focused on what's happening on the Blu ray front than on the Ps3 one.
Yes.Stoney Mason said:
It takes a game worth playing for 600 hours to justify a $600 system to me, and I've encountered all of one of those sorts of games since 1985. And even then, I'd rather have my $200 system plus eight other $50 games before reaching the $600 mark. Increases in physics, AI, etc. don't compensate for having the money to buy eight fewer games.
Souldriver
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Yeah... I'm sure the console that has to guarantee Sony's financial future for the next 10 years selling like shit does not worry them in the slightest way.xaosslug said:
:BIGROLLEYES
sonycowboy
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vasuba said:
Sony's taking it up the rear, no doubt there. It's worse than ANYBODY could have predicted. To be a fly on the wall tonight would be worth just about anything.
That being said, the recent estimate published on the profitability on the PS2 is a joke. The cost breakdown is substantially below $100 at this point. It won't come close to helping offset the losses on the PS3, but $8? Fantasy.
meltpotato
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sonycowboy said:
not to mention the sheer amount PS2 software that they are reaping royalties from still.
Stoney Mason
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DSN2K said:
Final post in this thread for me as the damage has been done but Home ain't going to do jack. It's the Price. It's the Price. It's the Price. If I could I would beat it into people's brain with a club. Great games. Online Stuff. Blu-Ray. None of it will save Sony if the masses immediately hear a crazy price point and balk.
What amazes me is this was as obvious as a train bearing down on a blind man on railroad tracks and people still aren't sure what killed the guy. Maybe it was heart disease? Maybe it was cancer? Maybe he was killed by a shark? NO HE WAS HIT BY A FREAKING TRAIN!!!!!
GhaleonEB said:
You know what, I'm not sure that $250 would be the right price for a supply unconstrained Wii. We don't know, but I suspect a price cut of $50 would probably do more for Wii that a 100 for the other two (with possible exception of 199 Core which is absolutely out of question from MS standpoint).
many motherf*! are being proved wrong, and i ****ing love that. GO NINTENDO!.PS3 numbers are really bad, wow. Please, please drop the price.
As a supporter of the console, I hope they get better. But hell, as long as I can play the exclusives I want to play on the PS3, I'll be happy. At worst, it'll be 3rd and have a GCN style library.
I feel the same way as AltogetherAndrews and Zaptruder, in that I don't think MS and Nintendo will take the market in a good direction if they lead. With a few exceptions, I don't like the games that are available on Wii and Xbox 360. I think that Sony has pushed the boundaries of what can be considered "video games" much more then either of their competitors, and it will be a shame if their ambition causes them to crash and burn.
And for all the people dissing the press release, I agree that it's hilarious spin :lol It's a hard thing to be in that position, but hey, they have to somehow keep shareholders.
As a supporter of the console, I hope they get better. But hell, as long as I can play the exclusives I want to play on the PS3, I'll be happy. At worst, it'll be 3rd and have a GCN style library.
I feel the same way as AltogetherAndrews and Zaptruder, in that I don't think MS and Nintendo will take the market in a good direction if they lead. With a few exceptions, I don't like the games that are available on Wii and Xbox 360. I think that Sony has pushed the boundaries of what can be considered "video games" much more then either of their competitors, and it will be a shame if their ambition causes them to crash and burn.
And for all the people dissing the press release, I agree that it's hilarious spin :lol It's a hard thing to be in that position, but hey, they have to somehow keep shareholders.
Holy Order Sol
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schuelma said:
speculawyer
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travisbickle said:
Remove the EE chip as done in Europe and go with s/w based emulation, make the Blu-Ray drive tray loading, and remove the expensive internal power supply by replacing it with a brick. I mentioned these three ideas months ago. Sony started doing one of them.
Edit: I forgot one . . . a wired controller instead of wireless. None of those changes would effect the next-gen performance of the system.
DSN2K said:
I think that price is a whole lot of it. Their crappy lineup can't help, but the PS2 had a pretty crappy lineup at launch aside from one or two stars, and then a lengthy wasteland of releases for the next six months or so. And yet, it still sold like gangbusters. Both Sony and Microsoft were really pushing the limits of what people will pay for a console this generation, but while MS managed to just step up to the line, Sony stepped over it. I think even MS would be doing a lot better with a lower price point. If/when they do a price cut this year, I predict that their sales will increase pretty dramatically.
It's not the price by itself but the high competition and the PS3 lacking anything to set itself apart (like how the wii does). It's just a less attractive 360 like console at a higher price right now. That's not really appealing. Coupled with the HD TV entry barrier that it shares with the 360 and an increasingly hardcore target audience, you have a receipy for disaster. Disaster as in sales nowhere in line with what youStoney Mason said:
re used to from a successful gaming machine.
Flesh Into Gear
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Well, bad news for Sony, good news for people waiting for the price of the PS3 to drop.
Tobor said:
To be brutally honest, you can find 'fun' games on old systems and on the PC by the bucketloads, and for cheap
There's probably a mountain of great old games I haven't touched before. And I probably won't touch.
I'm not kidding myself; PS3, X360. They're not offering gameplay wise anything substantially different from what we've had before.
The wii is, but at the same time, from my experience, it's not an improved experience; just a different one (for me).
outunderthestars
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Kusagari said:
I think the real question should be when will Nintendo be able to meet worldwide demand for their systems?
I still cannot walk into a best buy in Charlotte NC and find a wii, and DS's are findable but not reliably so.
Maxwell House
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Are you sure? The summer looks awfully empty for PS3. I could see some months in the summer with less than 100K sales of PS3s.The Innocent X said: