Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
This is completely false.
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NPD January 2013 Sales Results [Up7: Wii U 57K (CNET), Vita ~35K, PS3 201K]
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This is completely false.
3DS certainly isn't beastly outside Japan.
They all have their issues obviously, but the fact that the three new gen machines are all struggling can't be a good sign for the market as a whole. Judged purely on software quality the 3DS should be dominating the GBA's figures (not that I'm saying that's a particularly good metric).
He is also on track to lead Nintendo to its first two consecutive annual losses in history.
They do. When you factor in the required memory card, it comes to 10$ less than a 360 with Kinect. No longer a price point people can stomach for a handheld.
MikeE21286
Member
55k/50 states/ 31 days I'm guessing.
Aquamarine
Member
The video game ecosystem is also radically different from the late '90s.
There's no place for another Nintendo home console if the Wii U bombs. A new CEO / the investors would pine for handhelds + iOS + 3rd-party home consoles only.
They got Google Street View working. I just downloaded it and I think they may have the lightning they need in this little app.
I smell some sort of overcooked pig meat.
Yeah, seriously. I don't get how they don't have any other games out during this time. It really sucks... I like the Wii U, I just want something to play on it
No idea if all those games they talked about in the Nintendo Direct last month will help with sales whenever those games do come out. Hopefully they do, but this system really needs games.If it fails they sure as hell aren't going to take a loss on the next thing they put out. Maybe they can fix the anticonsumerism, but they'll never be able to loss-lead like the competition can.
Father_Brain
Banned
He blocked me on Twitter for calling out the obvious bullshit of his Virtual Boy claim. I imagine he actually does have access to current NPD numbers, but can't see him as being credible regarding anything else.
fse
Member
leatherhat
Member
Which is enough to put it ahead of WiiU
I would almost be totally okay with Nintendo going handheld only, as long as there was TV out.
DR2K
Banned
Nintendo couldn't afford to drop the 3DS, but they did it because they had no choice.
The tech justified the price imo. Sony just never went all in with the Vita. They should have some of the top first party teams make Vita games. Why should dedicated hh have a price ceiling? Sony tried twice to up the price and take consoles into a top tier. Guess people just want to pay toy prices.
DashReindeer
Lead Community Manager, Outpost Games
Yeah, in Japanese business that's basically a death knell.
It'll be really weird to think of Nintendo without Iwata, but as much as I like what he has tried to do, it's obvious that his strategies don't necessarily work in this market.
Byakuya769
Member
Play AAA games? No. Allows me to play AAA games online? No.
Version 3.0
Member
It's not a "Wii HD". It doesn't even render Wii games in HD, for Pete's sake.
But yeah, it's way too late. They should've either released it earlier, while the Wii brand was still strong, or (at the very least) called it something else.
Vita would be doing better if not for the ridiculous memory prices and lack of announcements. Price cut would be nice too, but I don't think it's absolutely necessary if those first two things were tackled.
A lot of Vita games have been absolute garbage despite being attached to big names as well, that hasn't helped its image. ie. Resistance: Burning Skies and Call of Duty Declassified.
A lot of Vita games have been absolute garbage despite being attached to big names as well, that hasn't helped its image. ie. Resistance: Burning Skies and Call of Duty Declassified.
Mikey Jr.
Member
Agreed, I love Sony, but man, fuck the Vita. Just get out of handhelds ALTOGETHER. Or, make a Playstation Phone. Something like that.
Don't kill the Vita yet though. Keep trucking on for a few years, THEN give up. Don't want to see people waste their money. Hopefully Sony doesn't make a third handheld.
Aquamarine
Member
Baconsammy
Banned
For the record, despite the worst major console launch in history, I don't think they're doomed. I think it will have a nice little run and sales will pick up as their heavy hitters arrive. Not sure what kind of success to expect. Definitely not Wii, probably not Gamecube, maybe around 360/PS3, which still isn't bad. But then again I'm one of the dummies that said it would sell out everywhere for months and months.
8. Price too high
9. Dropping motion controls for an expensive new gimmick
10. Going after the ps360 gamer, in a sloppy way
11. Not using their huge library (VC) from the get go
etc. too many mistakes to expect a sucess basically.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
This is way too extreme.
They'd give it at least one more shot: either a console/handheld hybrid, allowing themselves the opportunity to focus on ONE pillar OR they go nuts with a powerful console in 2016, giving them 3-4 years unopposed.
It'll be damn hard to get Wii sales. They need software and marketing awareness.
Reggie needs to go first.
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
Oh Wii U :/
The problem is that they let the Wii die with no software for 2 years and everyone forgot about them. Then they launch a console with the same name and too expensive and everyone said "don't we have one of those in the closet already?" or "eh, didn't get much use from the other one the last 2 years, not buying this one."
demosthenes
Member
Vita
As much as I hope for PS4 + crazy stuff. I really hope Sony has some Vita announcements
As much as I hope for PS4 + crazy stuff. I really hope Sony has some Vita announcements
If you don't get the joke, then it can't be funny.
Don't be the guy who doesn't get the obvious ones.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Online is so last gen like Rumble...
No. Iwata, then Reggie. And put Miyamoto into a closet somewhere to play with Wii Music forever.
Dude... as much as abhor what Nintendo has done over the last 5 years, an online port of Wii Sports would keep me busy forever. FORRREVVVURR.
I always look forward to your breakdowns.
I doubt Reggie has any real power. I bet everything has to go through Japan first.
MikeE21286
Member
My premise wasn't WiiU > Vita in third party support. Didn't mean to cme off that way if I dd.
3 is 200% more than 1
Both are bad.
The tech justifying the price doesn't cut it. The general masses doesn't think the combination of tech, games, and future potential is worth the price. Same situation with the Wii U.
Even Nintendo knew that Wii sales were not going to come back no matter what they did.
Um, would a Wii2 need to render games at twice the framerate to qualify? To 2 screens? Why would a "Wii HD" name imply anything other than a new iteration of a console, one that offers all the features of the Wii but now in HD? It's like implying that people on the iphone 4 are shocked that non-native apps don't render at full resolution.
WTF Iwata, he achieved the best and the worst console launch in history in less than 10 years. That's... remarkable.
Speaking as a Latin american consumer, this sales disaster is deserved and Reggie needs to be fired ASAP. They absolutely ignored a market that is growing at an incredible pace, quickly surpassing Canada as the second place in America; the Wii U sells for more than $500 in Mexico and the software is more expensive than PS3/360 games for no reason. Time for NOA to actually acknowledge our region and our money (As MS is doing with great results for them).
Speaking as a Latin american consumer, this sales disaster is deserved and Reggie needs to be fired ASAP. They absolutely ignored a market that is growing at an incredible pace, quickly surpassing Canada as the second place in America; the Wii U sells for more than $500 in Mexico and the software is more expensive than PS3/360 games for no reason. Time for NOA to actually acknowledge our region and our money (As MS is doing with great results for them).
Father_Brain
Banned
They made a lot of very stupid assumptions leading up to and beyond launch: that PSP's exclusive Japanese third-party support would simply carry over; that third parties would treat it as a third HD console platform and give it copious multiplats; and that the collapse of PSP's Dudebros on the Go market in the West (as demonstrated in 2010 by Peace Walker bombing and GoW:GoS only selling 37% of what CoO sold two years earlier) was simply a symptom of generational fatigue, rather than of a fundamental and irreversible change in the Western handheld market.