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IF that's what he meant, that's what he should've said. And I still doubt it.
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NPD January 2013 Sales Results [Up7: Wii U 57K (CNET), Vita ~35K, PS3 201K]
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IF that's what he meant, that's what he should've said. And I still doubt it.
Seems like Reggie has been damn quiet or accompanied by someone nowadays...
Aquamarine
Member
Nintendo investor sentiment, last June (5 months before the the Wii U release)
And this is BEFORE the Wii U launch. I have a feeling they're going to completely DESTROY Iwata come this June, supposing Iwata is still even CEO by then.
And this is BEFORE the Wii U launch. I have a feeling they're going to completely DESTROY Iwata come this June, supposing Iwata is still even CEO by then.
LOL at anyone that didn't see the ps3 being a huge failure at e3 2006. It was over before it even started.
H_Prestige
Banned
Damn, shit's about to get real at Nintendo.
Before the consoles of both companies were revealed? No one saw either coming. But after the PS3 was revealed (599), and the Wii U was revealed, I think it was pretty much not well received and fairly obvious they weren't going to do well.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
interesting to look back on.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Vita can fucking sell
Vita Wifi (annihilate the 3G) + 8GB Memory Card + Super StardustDelta for $199.99
Fuck throw in a $50 voucher for "Limited Time" only for 1 year PS+ to get some to go out on buy, due to it before March 1st get the extra 3 months promo running or some shit
You might get some PS3 users to run out and buy
Sony needs to learn that sometimes doing a "OMG this is a fucking steal!" can carry over sales real good
You will lock in users for PS+, so you build upon that
You will get more PS3 <==> Vita Cross Buy users
You will have more Vita users overall... FUCK!
Vita Wifi (annihilate the 3G) + 8GB Memory Card + Super StardustDelta for $199.99
Fuck throw in a $50 voucher for "Limited Time" only for 1 year PS+ to get some to go out on buy, due to it before March 1st get the extra 3 months promo running or some shit
You might get some PS3 users to run out and buy
Sony needs to learn that sometimes doing a "OMG this is a fucking steal!" can carry over sales real good
You will lock in users for PS+, so you build upon that
You will get more PS3 <==> Vita Cross Buy users
You will have more Vita users overall... FUCK!
Isn't who is asking the questions hugely relevant? Do we have any info on that?
What battery news do you speak of?
airmangataosenai
Member
GBA launched in Japan early March 2001, DS hit there early December 2004, so a bit under 3 years and 9 months total. It's outpacing the GBA slightly in Japan for sure. I doubt that the unveiling of a new Handheld 2 months after the system's 3 year anniversary did much for sales though.
Father_Brain
Banned
A lot of us saw it coming for PS3 after E3 2006 and FIVE HUNDRED NINETY-NINE US DOLLARS, just as a lot of us saw it coming after E3 2012 and Nintendo's dismal software showing. (Can't count myself in the latter group, though. I was never sure how well it'd do past the holidays, but I never expected it to do this badly.)
It makes all the sense in the world.
I wonder if Vita's existence had a measurable affect on the PS4. As in, if Bend wasn't doing Vita games -- would they be making a PS4 title? How much did Sony spend on marketing and R&D?
You are really getting predictable.
The Wii HD, in the manner you're conceptualizing it, would have been a logistical disaster. I know people point to Dolphin and say: "look how wonderful this is, it runs my Wii games in HD!" But Dolphin has been constantly revised, games have been patched (and even then many are buggy) but most importantly the horsepower required to perform such feats is far beyond the processing capabilities of the Wii U.
That's why rationally, the Wii U is only the thing that the Wii HD could have ever been. A HD ready Wii that achieves parity with the competition.
brochiller
Member
Do you guys think if Nintendo were getting some big third party multi-plat games such as Metal Gear Rising, Bioshock, and Tomb Raider, it would be doing any better right now?
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Fixed.
Let's hope so. I'd like to see someone running Nintendo who understands where the industry is headed.
Don't release the gamepad. Or if you do, make it an optional accessory. Just give it updated Motion controls, a traditional controller, and HD graphics.
The software from Nintendo is clearly coming, but the issue is there's nothing for it now. Precisely why it's failing now. Nobody has a reason to buy one right now.
I think they need someone from the outside of Nintendo as well, they need someone to really turn that place on its head.
It totally does.
1) Casual gamers don't want another current gen console, they have their 360/PS3 for CoD
2) Core gamers already own a 360 and/or PS3, they are satisfied with all the big 3rd party games coming out on those consoles (Bioshock, GTAV, Tomb Raider, etc)
3) Non-gamers don't care about the Wii anymore. They dont even know the WiiU exists
so you're left with Nintendo fanboys and hardcore gamers to sell to. And even most hardcore gamers obviously aren't investing in this flop of a console.
metalslimer
Member
No. There is no reason for the vast majority of PS3/360 users to switch over and spend 350 dollars for something they can already play that likely won't look better.
Edit: Iwata will probably be CEO until the end of the year. If by the end of this year things don't turn around he will be gone.
God damn, some of these shareholders had legitimate concerns and questions being brought up. I think the Board of Directors should be capable of influencing the company in a good direction (not iOS/Android) if it comes down to getting a new CEO.
MikeE21286
Member
IIRC Sony is either right at break even on the Vita or is losing a little bit on hardware.
If they drop the price by $100 they are in essence doubling down on their initial Vita investment and re-launching. This is not sound business IMO. Those upfront costs for starting a system are already gone and sunk, you cant worry about them. Also the climate for a dedicated handheld is not big enough for two companies. Nintendo has already proven it has won this handheld race. No doubt about that. The smarter move is to ride out this wave, keep the price high and make it profitable on the hardware side. Drop price when its profitable to do so. Software will sell like garbage and the only games we will get for Vita are first party and/or cross-buy titles, but you don't risk bleeding money, money Sony doesn't have, on a device that shouldn't exist in 2013.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
It has to be pure arrogance. There's no other explanation.
PhoenixDawn
Member
Yep, they messed up by not having a big game or two ready to be released in the first few months of the system. I guess they were counting on Pikmin 3 to be ready and release about now, but that probably wouldn't have carried the system too much regardless. Now they've been caught with no games close to completion so all they can do is announce things and hope that the Wii U can live on life support long enough to make it to next Fall when they finally have games that are ready to be released and can get into a better release rhythm.
Amazing.
Yeah that would totally move at least twelve units. Come on. A price drop would be nice, but vita needs big time software.
Gahiggidy
My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
What purpose does this mythical hardware serve? How does it differentiate itself from any other handheld? TV-out? Why would Nintendo merging two sources of revenue into one possibly be a good thing?
Agreed. An internal hire would just be another Iwata. Unless there is some crazy rebel in there we don't know about.
DashReindeer
Lead Community Manager, Outpost Games
You think that means that there are a shit ton of Wii Us sitting in a warehouses somewhere that Nintendo thought for sure they would need to meet demand? This is just so sad now. If nintendo disappears from the console market, I have a bunch of friends who will end up never playing a console game again in their lives.
demosthenes
Member
What losses? I don't think they're losing any money on the things now.