Aquamarine
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70K sales for the Wii U next month. Calling it now.
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NPD January 2013 Sales Results [Up7: Wii U 57K (CNET), Vita ~35K, PS3 201K]
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70K sales for the Wii U next month. Calling it now.
Isn't it already?
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
40K WiiU, 22K Vita ; ;
Crazy Feb 22nd will be the 1 year anniversary of Vita launch in NA =/
Jesus!
That's a great idea!
People forget about 3DS, and people forgot how PS3 turned around it seems
InsaneZero
Member
I'm looking forward to how Fire Emblem does next month.
Nintendo might actually have some PR worth writing.
Nintendo might actually have some PR worth writing.
ShockingAlberto
Member
DmC is interesting because I just do not buy that Capcom would never have gone back to DMC proper before announcing DmC. The series was on the upswing, multiplatform was clearly doing well for it and they more or less had the genre to themselves in terms of marketshare.
Maybe it would have taken until Itsuno finished Dragon's Dogma, but I find it hard to believe they simply never would have made another Devil May Cry unless Ninja Theory made it.
For the question of what Capcom does now that DmC failed to meet their expectations, well...it depends entirely on what message they take from it and "People just want DMC5" might not actually be the right one. The market is more crowded than it was when DMC4 came out, the generation is also a lot older and risk-taking is not going to help sell your game. Maybe action game fans are waiting for Rising, maybe everyone is spent out after the holidays. At the end of the day, the game was a critical darling that failed to penetrate the mass market while DMC4 was the opposite (though mostly in retrospect, its metacritic is within spitting distance of the critically-acclaimed DmC's) and did that game sold well.
It may be the worst case scenario for everyone - that DmC damaged the brand among the fanbase while failing to pick up enough new people to offset it. Which means that a small minority of fans were pleased by the result because it got them DmC but it makes everyone else, from consumers to Capcom, stomach pains.
Maybe it would have taken until Itsuno finished Dragon's Dogma, but I find it hard to believe they simply never would have made another Devil May Cry unless Ninja Theory made it.
For the question of what Capcom does now that DmC failed to meet their expectations, well...it depends entirely on what message they take from it and "People just want DMC5" might not actually be the right one. The market is more crowded than it was when DMC4 came out, the generation is also a lot older and risk-taking is not going to help sell your game. Maybe action game fans are waiting for Rising, maybe everyone is spent out after the holidays. At the end of the day, the game was a critical darling that failed to penetrate the mass market while DMC4 was the opposite (though mostly in retrospect, its metacritic is within spitting distance of the critically-acclaimed DmC's) and did that game sold well.
It may be the worst case scenario for everyone - that DmC damaged the brand among the fanbase while failing to pick up enough new people to offset it. Which means that a small minority of fans were pleased by the result because it got them DmC but it makes everyone else, from consumers to Capcom, stomach pains.
I made a post about this in May, and I still think I'm 100% right. My main points were:
1) Close enough to the PS4/X720 to make porting easy and make the difference between Wii U and current gen easily viable.
2) Match XBL/PSN feature-for-feature and EXCEED them with anything and everything you can think of.
3) Major, revolutionary, must-have title for launch. Mario 64 level of innovation. Something that everyone says "OMG, I have to play that!"
4) Money hat, money hat, money hat! Pay some major 3rd party to make an exclusive dudebro game.
Basically, they needed to do the exact opposite of what they did.
I hope that the WiiU finally, FINALLY convinces Nintendo that they need to play the game to succeed. What they should have learned from the N64, what they should have learned from the Gamecube, what they should have learned from the premature death of the Wii is that they NEED 3rd parties to survive. Nintendo, for all their greatness, cannot support a console by themselves. They need third party developers, and they need support that's at least at parity with their competition to survive. Anything less only leads to failure.
I do think it is sadly. Gamers will always be there, but Apple has set a precedent for entertainment on the cheap with the iPod touch and iPhone. I know its not a console, but when stores like Toys R Us are carrying iPod touches and killing it in sales during the holidays, its kinda telling of where were heading. Its sad to even imagine that next gen could potentially have a pretty heavy decline in total sales.
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
Nintendo was in worse shape after the GameCube.
Steve Youngblood
Member
I don't really know what this is in response to. The point isn't that Wii Sports singlehandedly sold every single Wii system and it alone made it the most successful platform last gen. The point is just in comparing the proof of concept mini-games and their efficacy to get people to understand and buy into the vision of the platform's design. Your whole post just reads as meandering analysis to counter a point nobody ever made.
I really hope it's a breakout success for Platinum.
At the very least I expect it to be their best selling game, yet.
The Metal Gear brand name is strong, the Platinum Games respect amongst hardcore gamers is strong, and it's all but a foregone conclusion now that the game will review well.
I would like to see this game destroy the sales charts.
They've certainly set it up to do so.
TheUnknownForce
Member
That seems a little high, considering there is nothing coming this month, unless Feb is 5 weeks?
This I agree with they shouldve used that Wii money to buy some western studios to have games ready for when they jumped into HD.
But yet we only have Retro to wait for and they cant pump games out fast enough.
I do love the move with platinum games in Japan tho, but it should be more
ViewtifulJC
Banned
and yet they clearly didn't buy the next-gen Wii-U
Those are lot of Kajima's posts
ShockingAlberto
Member
Why would it go up?
Next month will be even worse. There is no way the Wii U sales will go up until software releases and no software (an original game with limited demographic appeal, a limited demographic port from the 3DS, and a late port of a racing game) will be released in March.
Shit's gonna be fucked for a while!
This is what a lot of people who are celebrating over DmC's sales need to realize. There is nothing here to suggest that Capcom will come crawling back with DMC5 after looking at these sales, and the people celebrating have already convinced themselves this will be the case.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
I can only see it getting worse. My guess is around 30k.
StreetsAhead
Member
Yeah, speculation. But once it's revealed it becomes a known quantity and some people lose interest, inevitably. They'll just jump on the next band wagon of hype and speculation. No doubt, in a week the games announced at yesterday's ND will be 'old news' and boring for some people (though one is technically 'old') and would have become so regardless of Playstation's announcement.
Ninja Scooter
Member
I agree with what you said pretty much. Wii was lightning in a bottle. I'm not trying to prop up Wii Sports as a game, just as an experience. It is what sold the Wii. NSMB and Mario Kart Wii sold 20 million copies on the back of Wii sports. People who normally would not have bought a console for those games had one thanks to Wii sports and resort and Fit. Those people have no reason to buy a Wii u. A lot of them got their "gaming fix" during the height of the Wii/Rock Band fad and probably don't even play video games much anymore. There is nothing compelling about it to them, and Wind Waker HD or another NSMB or another Smash Bros won't change that.
TheNatural
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Lol I knew all those mid 150k predictions for Wii U were full of shit. I was thinking 85k, and it was even below that.
Enjoy the crow all you delusional that kept replying the launch wasn't a disaster and 'wait and see.' Well we waited and now you see. Horrible sales below any worst case and a barren landscape ahead.
Nintendo has come up with a pair of bullets with 3DS this year and future, and Wii U is 7 2 offsuit. Time to push the right horse Nintendo.
Enjoy the crow all you delusional that kept replying the launch wasn't a disaster and 'wait and see.' Well we waited and now you see. Horrible sales below any worst case and a barren landscape ahead.
Nintendo has come up with a pair of bullets with 3DS this year and future, and Wii U is 7 2 offsuit. Time to push the right horse Nintendo.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
February is also the shortest month to boot, you lose 2-3 days of sales
So it would have to sell more than January's 5 weeks
So it would have to sell more than January's 5 weeks
Expect worse.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Ideally they should have just left DMC4 as a one-off this generation, maybe make a Vita port, and then release a DMC5 next-gen.
But if if's and but's were candy and nuts.
The PS3 is 7 years old, the X360 is 8. They're still selling exceptional amounts of hardware for systems this old. IGN gave the January PS3 software decline - adjusted for 5 weeks instead of 4 - at a mere 2% YoY. We don't have comparable X360 figures but its reasonable to assume its similar.
We got UK data for January that showed that the PS3+360 software combined were only down 3.5% YoY.
Most of the decline in the industry at the moment is Nintendo. The Wii, the DS.
Seems like Nintendo felt the same way. They tried to capture that novelty again. It's nearly impossible to capture something that takes off so organically. It was near impossible for me to visit anyone's house without seeing the Wii just sitting there, and now, most of them are unaware of the existence of the Wii U. And I don't think they would care to purchase it even if they were made aware of it. But, you and I, who do not necessarily need novelty to drive a purchase get to see the platform crumble from the outside in.
I think Ubisoft would be happy with 100,000,000 sales of Just Dance 4...
Aquamarine
Member
Nintendo didn't release any titles in the US in February 2002 for the Gamecube, either. But it still went up then as well.
It's just a stronger month for sales in general, and with Nintendo guaranteed to be in panic mode, I'm betting we'll see sales increases.
PhoenixDark
Banned
The numbers aren't great but the WiiU is still the top selling next gen console on the market. And by the time the PS4 hits the market at $400-500, the WiiU will have a nice price cut and a host of top selling franchises ready to launch. This isn't over. We don't know what Retro has been working on, I have a feeling they'll provide the killer app gamers are looking for.
Just a couple moves can fix this, I really don't see a point in jumping to conclusions. Nintendo can potentially purchase Valve, given their financial problems. Also given the ridiculous situation at Ubisoft, I think master talents like Ancel could flock to Nintendo. Those two moves alone would shore up the US and UK markets, and Japan will fall in line for Animal Crossing WiiU.
Just a couple moves can fix this, I really don't see a point in jumping to conclusions. Nintendo can potentially purchase Valve, given their financial problems. Also given the ridiculous situation at Ubisoft, I think master talents like Ancel could flock to Nintendo. Those two moves alone would shore up the US and UK markets, and Japan will fall in line for Animal Crossing WiiU.
Schnozberry
Member
Apple's marketing is stellar. If they keep the price of the iPad Mini competitive with consoles it could be a major decline for all console makers.
Steve Youngblood
Member
Why do you think February is going to be a better month?
Probably would've been for the best. If they do make DMC5, then it'll benefit from being at the start of the next-gen.
It's just a shame. DmC was a good game (IMO), but it just couldn't get away from the cloud hanging over it. Though a part of me thinks Capcom and Ninja Theory knew this would happen. Especially considering that there was no post launch marketing.
Version 3.0
Member
Gamecube went up back in 2001. February's generally a better month all around - everything always goes up from Jan. It might go up, but if it does, it won't be by much, especially with Jan being 5 weeks, of course.
I think next Nintendo Direct Iwata will be in a warehouse filled with his own Wii U's to boost sales.
TheUnknownForce
Member
I think it will do a little shifting upward or at least leveling-off in March. With LEGO City, they are probably going to do some actual marketing for the game, and we should know by then how Q2 will look for the system (G+W, Wii Fit U, and Pikmin 3 is my guess). I see either Feb-Mar or July-Aug to be the worst points for the system. Nintendo knows they are in a bad spot right now for Wii U, so it is a good thing they are pushing 3DS quite a bit for now.
Aquamarine
Member
Oh shit, I forgot that Jan was a 5 week reporting period.
Never mind. I'm knocking it down to 60K.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I think we've found the topic sentence for the Nintendo PR
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
You do realize 2 weeks have passed in February, what absurd thing can NINty do in the next 2 weeks to make the system climb 15K+?
This is why I think Nintendo needs to release a VR console in the next few years. VR is the only concept I can think of which could capture the imagination of the public in the same way as the Wii. And unlike the Wii, it should have a lot more staying power.
Duxxy3
Member
As a launch saturn owner i am highly offended by this.
BruiserBear
Banned
Hopefully the false optimism about the Wii U is officially gone with the newest data. Nintendo has literally recreated the 3DS launch for a second time.
Can't wait to see what I get out of the ambassador program this time. :/
Can't wait to see what I get out of the ambassador program this time. :/
shinra-bansho
Member
It may go up on a per week basis, while being lower overall. When I have time maybe I'll look at the Jan->Feb transition.
Just wanted to say that I agree with your post.
Yup, it's quite the shitty situation for DmC.
Bel_Air_Jeff
Banned
Nintendo always has something up their sleeve. They created this industry, and they will be here when it collapses.
Regardless, the end of this year will be really exciting to see.
Can't wait to see the launch sales of the Durango and the Orbis.
Regardless, the end of this year will be really exciting to see.
Can't wait to see the launch sales of the Durango and the Orbis.
