As a Platinum Games fan and a general J-action game fan (I bought a PS3 for the express purpose of playing Bayonetta and Ninja Gaiden) I wish it to be true too. I just don't see it in the realm of reality.
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NPD January 2013 Sales Results [Up7: Wii U 57K (CNET), Vita ~35K, PS3 201K]
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As a Platinum Games fan and a general J-action game fan (I bought a PS3 for the express purpose of playing Bayonetta and Ninja Gaiden) I wish it to be true too. I just don't see it in the realm of reality.
Please, every game here is niche at best. They're notable because they're the only third party games that are coming. None of these games represent any kind of investment or widespread appeal, and none of them will set the charts on fire, no matter what console they're on.
It's less than three months after launch, and you really think that Wii U games should be discounted already? Why? What audience is there that is willing to spend $350 on a new console but balks at spending an extra $20 on a game for it?
Aquamarine
Member
Can you imagine those guys getting Wii U sales as well?
Oh god...I'm a bit scared for the industry right now.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
It's already past 3 million.
I'm thinking 3.5 million is definitely looking more likely now. Yikes.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
WiiU is 55k? It´s dead.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Apparently this one?
The software is iffy at best and clearly isn't moving the numbers anyone expected or hoped. Wii U got tagged with the "Games that aren't as good as they are anywhere else" label early and aggressive pricing is the only way to work around that right now.
TheUnknownForce
Member
NSMBU was a successor to one of the Wii's biggest selling titles, but NSMBW also released three years after the Wii launched and had built a huge following thanks to other system sellers. It would not be the type of game to convince people with NSMBW to buy a Wii U, and that is currently the problem Nintendo is going to face if it does not try pushing for more unique releases rather than sequels to its biggest Wii releases.
If anything, NSMBU should not have been Nintendo's "core" launch title, especially only 4 months after NSMB2 pushed the 3DS. Nintendo needs to build some more relevant console sellers or new properties to cause interest other than "it's Mario!"
UberTag
Member
LEGO City Undercover is a 2nd party title. Externally developed, published and financed by Nintendo.
MH3 Ultimate is effectively an enhanced port. Also, coming out on 3DS the same day. Even the Japanese who live and breathe Monster Hunter would rather play it on a portable than on a console. Of course, they feel that way about every game franchise these days.
NFS: MW is a port of a game released several months ago. Criterion is wasting their time and energy making it awesome. There's no reason for them to do this so they must be honoring a contract of some kind.
Revelaitons is a port of a game released a year ago.
Injustice: Gods Among Us is the only notable third-party title shipping on release day with its console brethren. Time will tell whether it's a competent version or not.
The latest LEGO game actually is a mover of console hardware. Unfortunately for Nintendo, that game is called Minecraft and is currently selling Xbox 360s.
Pikmin 3 isn't going to move squat.
If the Ouya is the most successful hardware launch of the year, I might literally cry myself to sleep. It would mean that I would be irrevocably marginalized as a consumer in this industry.
Duxxy3
Member
North America?
Another thing about the Wii U is that it, at the very least, has a future. We know that Smash Bros., a 3D Mario, Mario Kart, X, Zelda, and Bayonetta 2 are coming eventually. In the shorter term, we have MH, Lego, W101, and Pikmin 3. (I'm sure I'm forgetting something.)
If you didn't pick up a Wii U in November, you sure as hell weren't going to pick one up in January.
However, what about this November? It's looking like a better console... minus the launch of the PS480.
If you didn't pick up a Wii U in November, you sure as hell weren't going to pick one up in January.
However, what about this November? It's looking like a better console... minus the launch of the PS480.
Randolph Freelander
Member
No, Argentina.
leatherhat
Member
Peace walker is the only metal gear I can think of since 4 and that's more the fault of psp.
I don't think the drop will be that steep, but the lack of number will hurt it. GoW: Judgement is going to suffer the same fate, not all ironically. It will still outsell Rising though.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
Bwahahahaha, i can´t believe that WiiU has sold only 55k. DEAD.
dreamer3kx
Member
Sad day, sucks because the system has alot of charm, I just love the thing and hope it starts to pick up sells, also people lauging and mocking is pretty sad also, Nintendo has been great for a very long time and I think theyll bounce back.
Lambda Pie
Banned
i fully subscribe this post, even posted the same ideas many times.
Wii Fit and Wii Sports sold the Wii to the audiences, nothing involving Mario or Zelda had anything to do with it.
the Wii U has neither a novelty gimmick nor a Wii Sports type killer to attract casual crowds, right now it's aimed at the Nintendo faithful. last time a console had to be supported by them? sold 20 million, on a much healthier enviroment.
FreedomFighter
Member
The way that game has been marketed has been atrocious, but it seems quality. I, too, think the first month sales will be worse, but it will do fine lifetime.
TheUnknownForce
Member
I agree. I think the biggest issue is that, compared to the loaded first months of the Wii, the Wii U is absolutely sparse with releases during the post-holiday season. That can cause some negative hype, as we are seeing here.
Also, third party support is all but gone at this point. At least the Wii was cheap thanks to the PS2 ports and super cheap releases. Now they don't even make those anymore. :/
Ninja Scooter
Member
It didn't even have to be Wii 2, but at least try and make the system look different and appear as a fresher brand. White plastic and the same font doesn't exactly scream "new experience come check me out!" when you walk by a kiosk.
It also helped that at least in the case of Wii Sports, the software was SOLID and offered a new experience to gamers.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
boo this man GAF, Boo him mightily
I assume so since it's still up 20 million WW LTD on both PS3 and 360. Sales are slowing down considerably though.
Agreed
Of course, this is an NPD thread after all.
HD collection.
StreetsAhead
Member
People assume that the next PS and Xbox will be fine, because they're selling now, but I don't know how likely that people picking up a console now will be to buy one come Christmas.
Besides, if both are available in the US for Christmas either one will cannabilse the other, or they'll both sell average. Few people will be able to afford both, I imagine. Especially if they share many of their games.
Besides, if both are available in the US for Christmas either one will cannabilse the other, or they'll both sell average. Few people will be able to afford both, I imagine. Especially if they share many of their games.
Aggressive pricing would only work if it was for the console. Just discounting games isn't enough, as people would still need to spend far more on the console than they would on the game(s). Also, I just think that 2 months is way too early to start discounting software regardless of platform.
leatherhat
Member
Would 300k be that bad for a system's "last hurrah" so to speak? That's assuming you are even right with that prediction. 500k sounds much more likely to me.
release date is month from now. What kind of marketing were you expecting two months before the release?
ViewtifulJC
Banned
If PS4 is another Vita and Wii-U turns it around like the 3DS
:lol, what a ride this is gonna be
Sanic
Member
NFS is a total non-factor. sub ~20,000. I'll see the WiiU jump to the 100,00 range for march, but that's it.
The nearly unprecedented lack of 3rd party support might really be a death stroke here. Even the Gamecube wasn't this bad off, as has been covered.
Never did get that. With Resident Evil they've been quite content to distinguish between the major REs and the minor ones. They went as far as announcing RE6 before ORC hit the streets. With DmC, they razed the previous franchise and created a point of no return.
They threw out the "white hair" crowd (though I still doubt it is that big), the previous console crowd (halving the frame rate) and specialist crow for the NT fanbase and PC enthusiast crowd. Arguably the last group might save DmC, if they matched the console numbers it would still be pretty good.
I applaud him, for the last time that series was good was on the PS2. And it was still overrated then.
leatherhat
Member
I don't think that really counts...
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Anyone have a list off-hand of the games released in January? Obviously DmC is one...
RomanticHeroX
Member
We could go back to the days of giving Japan a huge head start. Makes it hard to wait in the US, sure, but it sure makes the launch lineup look a lot better. People point to the Dreamcast as having an amazing launch, without considering the 9 months or so it was available before hitting the US.
Single-player first. Only now is SP having appeal. Look at how little traction the MP beta received here on GAF. I'm responsible for half the goddamn posts in that thread. I think they fucked up hype levels -- but that's okay in the long run. The game will break 2M easy.
I'll be honest and admit that I don't understand who the tablet function is for.
I think that the "about as powerful as the 360/PS3" aspect of the machine is the same, though. Nintendo seems to think that being equally as powerful will bring over the people who complained about the Wii not being HD.
Baconsammy
Banned
Nintendoland would have benefited by supporting Oculus Rift. Make me feel like I'm actually at a Nintendo theme park instead of making me feel like I showed up to a mini-game festival without the right controllers.