Already happened. Most everyone hates SFxT, very few like it. I think it's Capcom's best FG this gen aside from the DLC bullshit.
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NPD March 2012 Sales Results [Up3: ME3 Total, Binary Domain]
- Thread starter Nirolak
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Already happened. Most everyone hates SFxT, very few like it. I think it's Capcom's best FG this gen aside from the DLC bullshit.
I really don't get why there is a discussion regarding why Nintendo's software sold on the Wii or why the system was so popular. And I can't imagine how anyone could call it a 'fad' even now. I could see someone making the argument that it was a fad early on, but going on six years later and with another successful product (Kinect) following its lead?
That borders on delusional.
That borders on delusional.
Were you not around for Brawl or something? Other characters overshadowed him? Pit was very popular in Brawl. Also genre is completely irrelevant, as its the overall I identity of the franchise that matters. And more than just "Nintendo fans" play Smash Bros. Brawl brought Kid Icarus into the public's eyes, not just the eyes of hardcore Nintendo fanboys. They probably already knew about the franchise.
Uprising most likely would not have even been created if it wasn't for Brawl. I don't know what you can't understand about that, but that's all there is to it. Just as Melee gave Fire Emblem life outside of Japan (kinda), Brawl gave the Kid Icarus franchise life.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
If that's what people are taking away from my argument than I'm just doing a really bad job condensing my thoughts onto my phone.
I'm sure its getting old but all I'm saying is what was already much better related above. If there was no motion tech the Wii would not be in the state it is today. That's all. It was perfectly timed and it allowed Nintendo to penetrate the market and expand their audience. Without it the Wii (IMO) would have been no more successful than the Cube or 64. If someone had a counter argument that doesn't feel personally threatened I would love to hear it.
And some people think the 3DS Marios are going to tail off...
Hm, that sound really low, wasn't it like 1.8 million or something before the last update? I can't believe PC numbers are this low considering how fast i find other people in multiplayer, no matter the time. Maybe the digital numbers are better...
There shouldn't be any counter-argument on this topic, nor does the Wii or Nintendo require defending on this point. Nintendo used motion technology and its development talents to penetrate the mainstream market by removing obstacles ordinarily blocking less seasoned gamers from taking part in gaming experiences. It made playing a video game intuitive rather than intimidating.
It was an ingenious move.
To state otherwise is to lessen the brilliance Nintendo showed in not only concocting the scenario but pulling it off as well as it did. There's nothing negative about this strategy in and of itself, nor should it be attacked. [I'm not saying you are, for what it's worth - just stating it clearly for those who believe the system to have been a 'fad' or motion controls to have been a 'gimmick' and nothing more.]
1.18 million without PC.
That said, for comparison, Fallout: New Vegas had about 114K retail PC sales.
Retail PC is basically dead in the U.S.
There are a lot of companies who do retail PC releases in Europe, but not the U.S. these days.
It was reprinted not too long ago. Nintendo re-released 6 Mario DS games in red cases.
Even in Canada, finding a retail PC game can be hard sometimes. I was never able to find Batman Arkham City, so i ended up buying it on Steam during the holidays sales.
Thanks. I guess there's a lot of question marks though over its legs, especially after the backlash to the ending, which was reported in even mainstream media outlets. April NPD should be interesting.
If anything, maybe the backlash will make people curious and sell the game more copies.
If anything, maybe the backlash will make people curious and sell the game more copies.
Interestingly, what Bisnic said might be happening.
In PAL Week 13 ME3 went up 28% in the UK, and in Week 14 (this week) it didn't change at all.
That's actually quite unusual in my experience outside of titles with quite good legs, especially when they're high on the charts.
If anything, maybe the backlash will make people curious and sell the game more copies.
I could see that happening in a sense. It certainly raised awareness over the game to some people who maybe wouldn't have otherwise heard about it. Even my mom knew about this game and its controversy by the end of it.
EDIT: Haha yeah looks like you might be right, after seeing Nirolak's data.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Yes! Thanks Vinci. Exactly right. The whole context of that was now I'm curious what Nintendo is thinking for Wii-U. It's feasible that they have enough mind share to be hugely successful just based on that alone. It will be interesting to see
Until they show us something, it's hard to guess whether what they're planning will work or not. I personally think Chase Mii and Battle Mii show immense potential from a marketing and gameplay standpoint, but not everyone agrees. Oh well.
Make such a terrible ending that it causes controversy even the mainstream media picks up => sell more games!
What a great signal to send to other developers.
Saint Gregory
Member
It was a launch game... in 2004. Unbelievable, if I were 3rd parties I might be afraid of Nintendo systems too.
GrandHarrier
Member
This is what you get, and deserve, for not making Phantasy Star 5, Sega.
A bit late...
Right. I was a month ahead but it still doesn't change my point: for me 3DS is ok.
Why would it be a problem? Anyway comparisons will be made.
This.
Saint Gregory
Member
They shouldn't give up. I own SSFIV and RE:R on 3DS and I've played UMvC on Vita and they're incredibly high quality handheld games. They pretty much lost out during the last handheld gen aside from MH (which is a big aside) and the PW games so they've got to build a better foundation this gen on the 3DS and Vita.
Why?
Super Streety Figther IV exceeded exceptations and shipped 1.2 million copies worldwide (which is close to what they shipped across Xbox 360 and PS3 combined...even when it can be argued that the game was over shipped).
Monster Hunter Tri G is at over 1.2 million copies just in Japan.
And as noted already, Revelations seems to be trailing/doing better than Mercenaries 3D and Capcom was happy with those results last year.
That some of the games are not selling that well in some regions or not performing as some of the fans are expecting is another thing.
Heck, Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom was relatively ignored in consoles too (compared to the original); so it not that that well on Vita is not shocking.
If anything ,they should focus on building onto those releases to expand the audience, rather than just give up.
ProfessorMoran
Member
Very good numbers for a Slant Six Resident Evil game that is completely panned critically just about everywhere, who bought this?
Good to see MLB the show doing well.
Honestly it depends on how the new players took the swiss cheese ending.
A friend of mine who plays 2-3 games a year asked me about ME3 due to ads he saw. Basically buys COD/Halo/Batman/Spiderman and then every year one random game that surprises me.
He was loving it and even considered going back to ME1/2 to see guys like Wrex he never got to check out.
Then when he hit the ending? Word for word from an email he sent me after he beat it.
I mean what can you expect when you release a game that is similar to the hugely marketed game of the month a week apart with almost no marketing yourself?
Hell even people like me who were cautiously optimistic about Binary Domain knew to rent it or wait 2 months for a 10$ bomba.
God damn I lol'd.
I'm actually unconvinced that ME3 took many sales away from Binary Domain. Some, sure, but they're not exactly substitute goods I think.
The funny thing I think is that that the waiting for bombas these days are such self-fulfilling prophecies. If the plan is to hasten the downfall of the business model/industry, well, it's working.
Nothing wrong with that.
Thanks for the clarification. That's better...ish.
bigtroyjon
Member
These are US sales
Zeouterlimits
Member
Poor Binary Domain. Not shocked, just saddened.
Especially considering Raccoon City.
Especially considering Raccoon City.
The Grim Heaper
Member
Kenshin001
Member
Binary Domain should have been a $40 release and simultaneously available on GoD/PSN.
CartridgeBlower
Member
Why? Just because it's not well-known? Nothing about it is a budget title. It's a great game. The problem wasn't the price or distribution, it was marketing, as is frequently the case with SEGA post-DC.
SteveWinwood
Member
Why do these numbers never show up in secondapps?
outunderthestars
Banned
Why is everyone blames marketing when a game bombs?
I saw a good amount of coverage for the game. It just looked incredibly generic and flat out dumb. I imagine that has more to do with it not selling than the failure of the marketing dept.