@ Bold, looking at the game sales on Xbox 360, there seems to be a lot of user base on that console that still needs to upgrade. So yeah it will do very well.
And I don't know what you did there, but you did prove my point that just like Fallout will sell PS4s, COD and Battlefront WILL sell Xbox Ones. I know what you guys are saying that movie and the game momentum at the same time. But you assuming that EVERYONE will only think that its on PS4. We have seen Microsoft marketing in past, during when Destiny launched. There is always a way to do market awareness without bundling, which isn't as effective as bundling I get it. But they can still give away free battlefront games with the console. Didn't Destiny sell almost similar number of copies in states despite that crazy Sony marketing? Well shooters tend to do well on Xbox One no matter how you look at.
COD player won't one day just wake up and think its exclusive to PS4 so I need to buy PS4 now. There are also shooter fans out there would think well which console where I can get Halo, COD, Battlefront, Fallout. And there are MORE shooter fans on Xbox than on PlayStation.
A huge portion of 360 sales came from MS's push of Kinect. However, Kinect games will not be backwards compatible with the XBO, so you can throw the 360 casual audience out the window. Not to mention, 40% of the PS4 userbase did not have a PS3 last gen. A lot of 360 gamers have already migrated to the PS4 and that number continues to rise. B/C is more of system justifier than a system seller.
Last year, MS released the Assassin's Creed bundle and COD: AW bundle, and cut the entry price from $399 to $349. They had marketing rights to two of the largest 3rd party franchises. Sony had marketing rights to Far Cry 4 and GTAV, but they only bundled the latter game for Black Friday, maintaining the entry price at $399 while MS reduced it down to $329.
This holiday season, MS has Halo 5 and possibly Fallout 4 bundles. Tomb Raider won't do much based on low preorders. Sony will have 3 Battlefront bundles and likely a Black Ops 3 bundle with a possible $50 cut on the entry price. Oh, and did I mention that Sony also has marketing rights to Assassin's Creed Syndicate? Sony's position heading into this holiday season is substantially different from last year's.
As for your last paragraph, citation needed. The Blacks Ops 3 beta and DLC will go on PS4 first, then XBO and PC later. Sony is also running COD tournaments from now on, so the competitive COD base is going to move to the PS4. So when you take DLC, tournaments, and a COD bundle into account, the COD fan will find the PS4 version more appealing.
So I don't see the argument of Sony will crush Microsoft with their bundles.
We were challenging your opinion that the only way the PS4 can outsell the XBO is if it is priced lower. Most of us were not arguing that Sony will crush Microsoft so I have no idea where you got that from.