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NPD Sales Numbers for November 2008
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MisterHero
Super Member
Yeah and they've created room for 3rd Parties to compete on the Wii short of moneyhatting them and the 'barbarism' they were accused of during their 8-bit/16-bit domination.chespace said:
The SNES' best-selling 3rd Party title was Street Fighter II. Where is Wii's Street Fighter, Capcom? :lol
Son of Godzilla
Banned
You missed the point. Nobody cares about non-HD games.Sadist said:
boiled goose
good with gravy
Eteric Rice said:
As I was saying earlier...
this is a combination of two things
Way too many big games in october-december...(mirror edge, PoP, fallout, farcry, fable, deadspace, lbp, r2, gears2, l4d, banjo, VC, cod, rb2, ghwt, etc, etc) way to ffing many... there is only so much money and time to dedicate to games
and...
NONE OF THEM ON THE WII...(except GH which did really well...)
Busaiku said:
IIRC Abyss was at 26k in 3 weeks. Vesperia was at 33k(?) in its first week. Then it went on to do another 37k the next four weeks, bringing it to 70k. I wish we could get data for the last couple months, as it looks to be the second best-selling game in the series here, besting Tales of Destiny's 68k LTD. Still a far cry from Symphonia, but it's still interesting to me...
BishopLamont
Banned
They're a success because they make money, not because I like or dislike them. Try to learn the difference.chespace said:
So third parties don't put in effort because Nintendo does? Ah makes perfect sense now.soldat7 said:
soldat7 said:
That rationale has always been fundamentally retarded. Nintendo's first party titles sell shitloads, that much is obvious, but they don't keep releasing new titles like every day. Not to mention that you would think it would be more risky to compete on other consoles that have significantly more third party games competing for gamers monies.
Flying_Phoenix
Banned
Grecco said:
The thing is when you go from crap to pretty bad, you're still left with pretty bad.
lazybum131 said:
Last Year: "Guitar Hero III is only selling the best on Wii because it has no competition. On the PS3 or 360 users have to choose between that or Rock Band, for the Wii however they can only get Guitar Hero. So in reality the series really isn't performing better on Wii because more Wii owners are starting to buy third party software but more so because it's the only choice out there for them if they want a guitar music game."
Eteric Rice said:
See at first it was only Japan (which is still in progress see Valkyria, Last Remnant, and TvC), however now its the West as well. I mean don't get me wrong plenty of games are doing good but it seems that AAA and AA games are getting a little more concentrated this year. Normally I'd be concerned but then again could that mean that more people are buying A games? (referring to budget not quality).
cw_sasuke said:
TTFW (Too True for Words)
I dunno man. I think the main difference this time is that third-party support is worse than ever before. Nintendo's made four Wii ___ games and their usual casual stuff (Mario Party, WarioWare, Animal Crossing), but their traditional gaming stuff has been better than it was on the Gamecube (except for Subpar Paper Mario). And it seems that the third-party filler titles are fewer or worse than before.chespace said:
I'm curious as to what their next Wii ____ game is going to be after Wii Sports Resort. It's the last of the original demo-made-games from E306. They might not have any at all. They might not be focusing on it much anymore. When was the last time they released a Training game in Japan? Months ago? A year ago?
boiled goose
good with gravy
chespace said:
what games did you by for gamecube?
BishopLamont said:
That's why he said "in [his] eyes".
Do you really expect a third-party to invest $10-20 million into a 'hardcore' Wii game? Who is going to take that kind of risk when your game would be deployed to a platform where Wii Fit rules the day. I'd personally love to see a third-party take that risk but I don't think they ever will. Nintendo understands their userbase, third-parties, perhaps to their detriment, don't.
Oblivion said:
Again, Nintendo games always shine the brightest and Nintendo has a history of making that happen. The historical data indicates that Nintendo customers tend to buy Nintendo-made games. You can't fault third-party pubs for coming to this type of conclusion.
Kobun Heat
Member
Che, what were the games released for the GameCube between November 2001 and November 2003 that you and your friends loved? Just looking for the benchmark here.
BishopLamont
Banned
When did I say that? You're judging success based on game quality, which is wrong. It's funny you mention only the non-games and yet you leave out all the traditional games.chespace said:
I don't expect shit, never said I did. There's a huge userbase growing at a rapid pace, if third parties want to eat, they better start serving.soldat7 said:
rollingstart
Banned
Y2Kev said:
Their potential golden goose now is Batman Arkham Asylum. If that game is both good and sells well, I think they could last and strive off good Batman games.
Then again I don't know how well Lego Batman sold.
boiled goose
good with gravy
Yes Boss! said:
completely agree...
I think most people claiming nintendo is abandoning the core gamer doesnt realize how better it is compared to the gamecube days....
this gen core gamers already got core games: smash, galaxy, zelda, cart, fire emblem, bwii, prime 3, warioware, animal crossing, etc
the usual fair: mario party, strikers, sluggers, etc.
on top of that... fun casual stuff like wii sports, wii fit, etc... (have not tried wii music so i cannot include it here yet....)
third party support that i believe is already better than what gamecube had: guitar hero for first time in a nintendo platform, ZaW, no more heroes, REUC, de blob, and all the 2009 upcoming stuff..
The criticism I would have for nintendo this generation would not be the neglect of its core fanbase.
It would be lack of new, high budget IPs and a barren fall 2008 lineup.
Yes Boss! said:
It's kind of a shame really. Nintendo didn't even attempt to hype it up like they did with SSBB, yet it's clearly bitchslapping it. I'd rather have a sub par Smash Bros. sell than a sub par Mario Kart. Oh, and the fact that Galaxy isn't garnering those sales sucks too.
Just looking at the prospects for an acquisition of EA by Disney now. It's tough to get a good public comp, but using the Activision Blizzard acquisition comp of a year ago, this could be big if it were to happen. If Disney's biggest acquisition in its history was Pixar (where could I check this?) at 7.4 billion, this could be much much bigger. With Disney trying to get into gaming, the synergies could be large.
I suppose now would be the time with EA's stock absolutely crashing, but if Disney were to try this in a normalized economy, it would be absolutely enormous.
I suppose now would be the time with EA's stock absolutely crashing, but if Disney were to try this in a normalized economy, it would be absolutely enormous.
BishopLamont
Banned
Ah someone with some sense at last. Well done.amtentori said:
Not a bomb, but below expectations would be fitting.Bizzyb said:
amtentori said:
I do believe that high-profile releases like Wii Fit and Wii Music fall into this. Those two games really feel like Nintendo throwing a ton of resources at them. Incredibly well-made and slick.
TJ Spyke said:
Yep, you are correct. Sorry, forgot about that...I had a japanese Super Famicom and I had to buy it separate.
BishopLamont
Banned
I don't expect Muramasa to light the world on fire, but Mad World needs to sell a shit load.soldat7 said:
Oh and guys stop going back and forth with the PS3's price drop, they need it, but they can't. There's nothing that can be done.
boiled goose
good with gravy
soldat7 said:
You do know that the Wii is already about 15 million units sold above the gamecube (and growing quickly as you can see)....
There are a crapton of customers who are new owners of a nintendo console... so there really is no excuses for third parties....
if anything by releasing crap on the they will push those customers towards nintendo's games which are most of the time very high quality games.
With the large userbase of the wii there is no excuse...
You cant say that these are both new customers and loyal nintendo customers at once...
Saint Gregory
Member
I brought this up before but there must be another explaination for what happened to this Holiday's Wii release schedule besides the idea that Wii Music and AC would be enough. If Nintendo decided that they were done appealing to dedicated gamers with the Wii they did an awful job of it for the first year or so of its lifespan with all those great releases.
Even Reggie seemed to think early this year that there were going to be big Wii games this quarter so WTF happened?
Even Reggie seemed to think early this year that there were going to be big Wii games this quarter so WTF happened?
BishopLamont
Banned
Reggie is really out of touch with the core fanbase if he thought AC is a hardcore offering. I wouldn't take Reggie seriously at all.Saint Gregory said:
Exactly. Obviously there's a subset of Wii customers that are rapid Nintendo fanboys, who will buy most Nintendo games, but there's a huge chunk of new players. They're going to get a fix of their games somewhere, if it's not third party games, it's going to be Nintendo's.amtentori said:
Sony won't rescue the PS3 by putting their company at risk. They're bleeding money and they need to cut jobs the last thing they'll do is take another hit on their profits. The only possibility is a decrease in production costs or a big push if the Playstation will be their main product and they've cut some fat from the company.Keikoku said:
I guess the Wii Motion Plus happened and whatever Nintendo had in store for Q4 2008 has been delayed for the Motion Plus. It seems that Nintendo's 2009 line-up is going to blow 2008 out of the water. We do know that EAD have Pikmin 3, Zelda, Wii Sports Resort in development/production right now. With a little luck both Pikmin 3 and Zelda could be this years heavy hitters. After all it will be 3 years after TP's release and 3.5 years since the development was done(spring/summer 06)Saint Gregory said: